“And while you’re at it, make it so it runs Andriod, they’re both phones, right?”
The legislation doesn't force USB-C, it only forces an industry standard. If the industry as a whole decided in 2024 to move to USB-D, they could do that.
I see your point ?, but my point is that this is about technology. Competition begets progress, regulation stability. You need both, but for tech I lean towards competition. And so does the EU by the way, just not where it comes to charging cables.
Do you claim there is no competition in the aviation and automotive industries?
This is called a straw man argument.“And while you’re at it, make it so it runs Andriod, they’re both phones, right?”
The ability to type something is easy. It’s vastly different from the ability to implement something. Especially something they don’t have a lot of experience with. When was the last time any company in the EU designed a phone?
Assuming the company isn’t violating the rights of individuals, I think the consumer should decide what counts as “good enough justification.”
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As I said in my first post: I personally welcome this. Bring on the Thunderbolt 4 iPhones! The industry has been moving towards a single charging/data interface standard for a long time, and USB-C (the plug) is where we are currently converging to anyway. However, we’ve been here before! And even this type of interface would evolve to a new standard (USB-D ?) that is more waterproof, less susceptible to dust, stronger, supporting higher power/data throughput or whatever. With this standardization progress will slow down in my opinion. But one standard will be nice?
I'm sure there is a good, comfortable place somewhere between the extremes of outright anarchy and soviet style governance - no point in comparing the phone-connector regulation to either.
With the connector, we're talking about an interface. And interfaces must be standardized to enable a free development and competition on either side of it.
I think it's a bit arrogant to consider EU governing bodies and their experts a bunch of amateurs... And we had a free market for the smartphone charger for almost 15 years now - not such a short time before finally standardizing this interface (between device and power supply / periphery).
Where's the heavy hand? I'm sure that phone manufacturers have been heard and voiced their opinion. And I personally believe that Apple is quite happy to finally be able to move its final products from the obsolete Lightning to USB-C - without having to take the blame this time round.
It’s a dumb idea. It hinders progress. USB-C is a bit of a mess, with all the Alt-modes, etc. This would preclude the USB-IF from developing a USB-D standard in the future to resolve these issues.
Hah, right? Imagine prohibiting children their freedom to shoot each other up in a school. Damn, socialists in Europe!
Not necessarily true. The EU imposed the GSM standard in the 1990's and that gave Europe a large head start in cell phone deployment compared to the US. Didn't stifle innovation a bit.
The largest iPhone battery is less than 17 watt-hours. If you drain it fully each day and charge it wirelessly with a very inefficient charger you are talking <6kwh a year. So worst case scenario, wireless charging is going to cost you a dollar/euro or two per year. If you binge watch a few seasons of a TV show on your iPhone instead of an LCD TV you saved your 6kwh right there.
Imagine if they tried to impose mini-USB. Now that would've been the worst.
This is the attitude that made me leave Europe. I prefer not to be "governed" but rather to self-govern. I'm a big boy.
They know, they explicitly states in the standard the Typ C port. And USB Powerdelivery 2.0 to be universally supported. Then it’s assumed they will same protocol of whatever port the computer uses(usb?) and proprietary charging standards can be used as long as USB PD2.0 is the fallback. They allow it to the market and manufacturers to negotiate the details as long as the fundamental parts are compatible.
That’s not EUs concern, that’s up to the USB group to regulate how cables are allowed to be made. But EU want the cables and ports the device manufacturers provide to meet a higher standard of interoperability. A Samsung cable and iPhone cable should be able to be used interchangeably to provide fast charging and data transfer.
Unless it’s a cheap knockoff
That’s a German and Italian issue EU is currently dealing with. And you can work on more than two things at the same time
I don’t think EU will apologize forcing companies to tell you exactly what data they want to sell. You can always klick no xD
Classic strawman ? high five
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Probably 2023. 2024 at the latest.
