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EU Plans to Ban Tech Companies From Pre-Installing Apps, Force Them to Share Data With Competitors
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Not to mention hugely skewed to populist rhetoric rather than based in the actual fact of the formation of the EU as it stands today.
True. If you believed every word that bad-mouths the EU, we'd all have micro-USB connectors on iPhones by now.
Having said that, they did bring in the awful cookie consent regulations that makes browsing a pain in the neck.
It’s a massive pain, but it does make one aware of the data gathering situation, and at least with a good company, gives the opt out clause, which never existed before. So all in all- a pain, but better like this than no knowledge at all.
*edit- also there are plenty of websites that make this unobtrusive. Mine for example doesn’t gather anything and onlyhas a small banner that is unobtrusive and pressing x assume no to everything as aposed to Google which is ridiculous
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Moronic !!!
EU is getting too desperate ... they cant compete so they regulate ...
To me it is akin to the wisdom: one can truly rise above or create the illusion by dargging other down!
EU is getting too desperate ... they cant compete so they regulate ...
To me it is akin to the wisdom: one can truly rise above or create the illusion by dargging other down!
The EU once again grossly overestimates its importance to big tech companies.
Once LATAM and APAC ramp up their buying power (10-20 years, less for some markets) watch companies just say "Europe isn't worth it." Many media companies are already just dropping out of the European market because the potential requirements on differentiating the product for the market PLUS the potential penalties for missing something aren't worth the revenue.
Especially considering the EU COJ has habit of saying "This is how we interpret the law NOW, and even though you were operating within the old guidelines, those old guidelines were invalid, so you owe us money from day 1."
Once LATAM and APAC ramp up their buying power (10-20 years, less for some markets) watch companies just say "Europe isn't worth it." Many media companies are already just dropping out of the European market because the potential requirements on differentiating the product for the market PLUS the potential penalties for missing something aren't worth the revenue.
Especially considering the EU COJ has habit of saying "This is how we interpret the law NOW, and even though you were operating within the old guidelines, those old guidelines were invalid, so you owe us money from day 1."
I seriously doubt that is the intent of this. But hey it's vaguely anti-Apple so let's throw in some speculation before this bill is written and rack up the internet points.
SAP, Nokia, Opera, AVG, Soundcloud, Last.fm, Mojang (creator of the best selling videogame in history), Rovio, King, DailyMotion, Huddle, ASOS, Skype, SkyScanner, Shazam, Trivago, Deliveroo.
No, none of these companies are as big as the larger ones in the US. Note that I did not say largest. There is no argument to be made about how much bigger the tech industry is in the US compared to the EU.
Yes, the EU absolutely has big tech companies.
Both the EU and US (both parties actually) have realized that the centralization of data (and power) in the big tech corporations is an increasing problem that needs to be solved in one way or another.
Those people here that think that those corporation should be able to do however they please "because the customer can always buy something else", are essentially missing the big picture and are part of the reason why regulation is unavoidable.
No default apps are also a good thing. Make a selection during setup. Not that difficult. Doesn't take much time either. Probably 20 seconds when you setup the device...
This is not ignorance on tech issues, it's the exact opposite.
On a realistic perspective your last line is a good statement that you either are totally aware and have all the counter measures in place or have no idea how things work. If I disable NoScript just on macrumors there are probably 10 or more ad and analytics companies collecting data on me. Most people don't even know what NoScript or similar tools are. Good luck with not having data handed over to other companies (which these companies also do).
(But that's not what the paragraph is about anyway...)
The cookie consent is not required for session cookies, only for analytics and so on.
The placement of the consent screen and forcing the user to make a choice is with the website. They could just put it on the bottom, side or just show a portion of the consent window, auto-hiding it minimized at the bottom.
Whenever you see the cookie screen the one to blame is the operator of the website.
It's a bit like advertisements for pharmaceutical products in US TV when they have to read potential side effects. Annoying af, but also very justified.
Those people here that think that those corporation should be able to do however they please "because the customer can always buy something else", are essentially missing the big picture and are part of the reason why regulation is unavoidable.
That's where you're wrong. iOS Mail user still wreak havoc on every email-chain they respond to when using the most limited email client ever mass deployed in the past 20 years. If people have to make a choice rather than just using the default they more likely are not go with the total low end solution.
No default apps are also a good thing. Make a selection during setup. Not that difficult. Doesn't take much time either. Probably 20 seconds when you setup the device...
This is not ignorance on tech issues, it's the exact opposite.
On a realistic perspective your last line is a good statement that you either are totally aware and have all the counter measures in place or have no idea how things work. If I disable NoScript just on macrumors there are probably 10 or more ad and analytics companies collecting data on me. Most people don't even know what NoScript or similar tools are. Good luck with not having data handed over to other companies (which these companies also do).
(But that's not what the paragraph is about anyway...)
You are shooting the messenger...
The cookie consent is not required for session cookies, only for analytics and so on.
The placement of the consent screen and forcing the user to make a choice is with the website. They could just put it on the bottom, side or just show a portion of the consent window, auto-hiding it minimized at the bottom.
Whenever you see the cookie screen the one to blame is the operator of the website.
It's a bit like advertisements for pharmaceutical products in US TV when they have to read potential side effects. Annoying af, but also very justified.
Rather than speculate as to the motivations of the person you're responding to, you could offer an alternative take on the intent. From the article we're all responding to, it sounds like no first-party software installed, and no forced installation of third party software.
Or claim fanboism and rack up internet points...
I'd still like to read the 30 paragraphs mentioned because I really don't see how this is expected to work.
Difference between the judicial system and the legislature is that the courts need a logical argument to reach their decisions, but lawmakers do not.
These new laws and policies sound like they were literally written by Spotify themselves. I mean, come on, you expect me to believe that the EU thinks it’s a good idea to force Apple and Google to share customer data with other companies? This is the same EU that came up with GDRP, no? What the hell...?
Huh? Maybe you should re-read what I wrong about information sharing. I said it wasn’t a good idea.