I think it's fair to be allowed to provide a link to redirect users to the payment page.
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EU Plans to Let Spotify Direct Users to Other Payment Options on iPhone
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If actually read the whole post it was about Spotify not having any in app purchases still on App Store & all it would do is let people know another option.Maybe you should have given me more context. All I got from you is just a few words.
Here's your chance to tell me about "choice" as it pertains to this article.
Go!
That’s what having a choice means
So why does it matter to you how much money Spotify actually makes?
So a company wants to increase their revenue
Shock horror
They do. It’s called an Apple Developer Program Membership fee and we all pay it, every year, to be on the App Store.
There’s nothing to stop Apple from basing this fee on App Downloads/ Hosting Fees/ API use or whatever, rather than gaining a direct advantage via a payment racket.
The only option is to sign up on Spotify's website.
There is no other way. Spotify is no longer letting people sign up through the App Store.
So that's why I'm confused when you say "choice"
Look I'm glad that Spotify will finally have a way to direct people to their website from inside the app. It'll be better for them than the current "You can't upgrade to Premium from inside the app" message.
But I'm still a little fuzzy on what you think the "choice" is here.
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Didn't Spotify limit the users choice by refusing to allow the subscription through Apple? The companies that are upset already increase the price for those who want to subscribe through Apple so isn't it contradicting to say basically "we want our customers to have better choice" but then limit the choice because Spotify is upset about the situation.
Like if I am willing to pay the 30% markup for the benefit of being able to control my subscription through Apple why does it matter to Spotify because I am paying that, much like the companies that charge extra like gas stations for gas as opposed to paying cash, basically moving that card fee to the user which us users choose if we want convenience or money saving.
I don't know...seems pretty backwards to claim to support your customers with choice, but then limit the choice available while complaining for change. Spotify is a joke
Like if I am willing to pay the 30% markup for the benefit of being able to control my subscription through Apple why does it matter to Spotify because I am paying that, much like the companies that charge extra like gas stations for gas as opposed to paying cash, basically moving that card fee to the user which us users choose if we want convenience or money saving.
I don't know...seems pretty backwards to claim to support your customers with choice, but then limit the choice available while complaining for change. Spotify is a joke
I am only stating even putting a link in the app they will continue to lose money. it won't save them. besides everyone knows how to subscribe to Spotify now.
The fact that many people here are pissed as if personally insulted that their beloved 3 trillions $ company is challenged, is the proof the the EU is doing something right.
True. If only Apple allowed third party app stores like it is possible on android phones or on macOS. People will say it's a security and privacy risk, but again most top 10 apps on the app store are personal data hoarders.
Agreed. It comes across as pure greed. At least let us have options as end users.
THANK YOU!!!! I love the EU! Too bad the US has no integrity left in its regulatory bodies.
Apple is just going to have to deal with the fact they cannot have a bite out of EVERYONE’s cake.
Apple is just going to have to deal with the fact they cannot have a bite out of EVERYONE’s cake.
It’s not anti-capitalistic if the governors are duly elected by their constituents.
They represent a subset of the population and have been tasked to handle affairs on their behalf.
Price negotiation is entirely reasonable in such a circumstance.
It is rather anti-capitalist if you do not provide an avenue for individual consumers to create purchasing groups to help negotiate on prices.
A government body doing this is no different than say a credit union.
Apple gets device sales by providing a platform featuring a rich app ecosystem that the overwhelming majority of customers expect. The App store hosts plenty of apps that Apple gets absolutely no revenue from.
When a billion dollar corporation and a trillion dollar corporation argue over money, which one is being greedy? I certainly don't care who gets the money.
I just like the convenience of Apple's IAP system and the privacy, security and lack of deceptive pricing that comes with it.
I am sure Spotify would he very much happy to host their app on their servers but it is Apple who blocks that and forces everybody to go through the App Store. Not for long, as third party app stores are soon to come, at least in Europe.
Not really. If you're using Apple's App Store, Apple deserves part of the revenue from iOS customers.
I've always thought that Apple should take the high road on this one. Allow for in-app purchases using alternative billing methods, but in order to do so, the app has to allow for "simple, one-button subscription cancellation".
With apps that use Apple's billing system, I know exactly where to go to easily cancel any and all subscriptions. Everything is written in plain-English and I know exactly what will happen when I hit the button to cancel.
This puts the onus on the app maker to see just how consumer friendly they are. EU should be all over this under the guise of protecting consumers.
With apps that use Apple's billing system, I know exactly where to go to easily cancel any and all subscriptions. Everything is written in plain-English and I know exactly what will happen when I hit the button to cancel.
This puts the onus on the app maker to see just how consumer friendly they are. EU should be all over this under the guise of protecting consumers.
I don’t know why Apple should get a cut of Spotify subscriptions. Apple isn’t responsible for any of their services and I doubt anyone is signing up for Spotify because of Apple. Plus Apple directly competes with them. And don’t say then Spotify should build their own phone and mobile OS. That’s stupid.
How are they freeloading? I’m assuming they pay for a developers license? Apple has nothing to do with anything that happens inside their app. Apple’s not hosting any content.
A hosting fee would make more sense than a cut of subscriptions. Nobody is signing up for Spotify because of Apple. Apple isn’t out there marketing Spotify’s product. There might be some small indie or game developers who get downloads because of Apple promotion in the App Store. But not big names like Spotify. Apple in 2023 thinking it deserves a cut of any digital revenue on iOS is nuts. Which of course is why they created that whole reader category of apps so apps like Spotify could bypass that commission.
Simple answer is that Spotify derives values from Apple's property that Apple offers for use under specific terms.
A great victory for Spotify. The beginning of the end for Apples app store shakedown
Is the Target app on iOS hosted for free? Doesn’t every app developer pay an annual fee? Does that annual fee not cover hosting the app? Do you every app should cost something to cover the costs of app hosting?
Come on! Why is this really a question? If I say you can rent my house for $100 plus $500 per month, you're freeloading if you don't pay the $500 per month even if you did pay the $100 up front.