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This is ridiculous on the EU's part, but Apple is also terrible about keeping obvious scams and fake apps out of the Store so I won't cry too much for them.

Actually I always thought that Apple did a pretty good job dealing with the scammy Apps, that is before the EU made them tear down a lot of those previous protections. If you find a scammy App you can quickly report it to Apple, and in most cases they remove the APP pretty quickly.

It's not perfect, nothing ever is, but I think Apple tries its best to stop the scammers. Problem is you get rid of one and there is another popping up in its place.
 
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Yeah I am sure all these scams happen to people to who use alternative stores....
Like the guy who will believe that the Nigerian prince will reward him for his kindness is smart enough to download and use a third-party store :D

Actually it is much easier for a third party source to mimic a real App in the App Store and trick people into giving their payment information, especially since Apple can no longer authenticate these third party payment groups. Not too surprising that we are seeing a rise in fraud. It should have been pretty apparent to anyone that was paying attention.
 
I'm just going to pull from reddit where a user captured my feelings on this topic, but also specifically how "the bot" wrote this article here, including the biased feel to it.

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Actually I always thought that Apple did a pretty good job dealing with the scammy Apps, that is before the EU made them tear down a lot of those previous protections. If you find a scammy App you can quickly report it to Apple, and in most cases they remove the APP pretty quickly.

It's not perfect, nothing ever is, but I think Apple tries its best to stop the scammers. Problem is you get rid of one and there is another popping up in its place.

I reported a blatantly obvious scam app over a week ago and it’s still there. It’s been up for over 3 months, with 3 different updates approved. And there’s absolutely no way anyone could have opened it and not immediately seen that it’s a scam. So what exactly is app review doing, other than needlessly harassing normal devs over like font choice?
 
I reported a blatantly obvious scam app over a week ago and it’s still there. It’s been up for over 3 months, with 3 different updates approved. And there’s absolutely no way anyone could have opened it and not immediately seen that it’s a scam. So what exactly is app review doing, other than needlessly harassing normal devs over like font choice?

I will take your word on that. I don't download much these days from the App Store. I guess things have gotten worse. I know it used to be that Apple took a good number of them down. Maybe not the case anymore.
 
While many of you know I’m not the EU competition office’s biggest fan, I don’t see the issue here. They’re not saying Apple is doing anything wrong. They’re just asking for information.

I mean, sure it’s ironic because they absolutely increased the risk of their citizens getting scammed with the DMA, but maybe they’ll learn something through asking Apple for information and realized they made a mistake with parts of the DMA. I doubt it, but stranger things have happened.
 
Lots of Apple fans in here going for the easy, non-nuanced whinge about the EU but fail to acknowledge how many scam apps are on iOS under their walled garden. Scam apps that make money, then get pulled from the AppStore but not before Apple keep the money made in the meantime.
 
Regardless, there were - and still are - plenty of apps in the App Store today that scam users into ridiculous weekly subscriptions, etc.
When you say users are being scammed into weekly subscriptions, are you talking about showing a monthly price and then charging that same price weekly?

Or are you saying weekly subscriptions are just scams in general?

I’ve seen these weekly subscription offers before and I stay far away from them. It’s just far too expensive. But they’ve all been clear about the cost.

If you have evidence of a bait and switch you should report that to Apple and get the vendor kicked off the platform.
 
Apple should not be required to have anything to do with third party App Stores that Apple warned against and were forced to allow. The EU can question the third party app store owners like Epic.
 
I reported a blatantly obvious scam app over a week ago and it’s still there. It’s been up for over 3 months, with 3 different updates approved. And there’s absolutely no way anyone could have opened it and not immediately seen that it’s a scam. So what exactly is app review doing, other than needlessly harassing normal devs over like font choice?

Exactly this 👆
It's a consistent story on Apple's App Store, and has been for years now.
 
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Lots of Apple fans in here going for the easy, non-nuanced whinge about the EU but fail to acknowledge how many scam apps are on iOS under their walled garden. Scam apps that make money, then get pulled from the AppStore but not before Apple keep the money made in the meantime.
Examples in studio or it is only words
 
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I reported a blatantly obvious scam app over a week ago and it’s still there. It’s been up for over 3 months, with 3 different updates approved. And there’s absolutely no way anyone could have opened it and not immediately seen that it’s a scam. So what exactly is app review doing, other than needlessly harassing normal devs over like font choice?
Name the app
 
I'm just going to pull from reddit where a user captured my feelings on this topic, but also specifically how "the bot" wrote this article here, including the biased feel to it.

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If all these people who seem to think the EU is claiming apple need to do more about scams in the 3rd party app stores could read, they'd be very upset with you right now!
 
EU: Apple, you have to allow third party app stores!

Apple: But that would decrease security

EU: Don’t care, just do it

*2 years later (I think)*

EU: These third party app stores are attracting dangerous apps, decreasing the user’s security

Apple: holy canoly
Well, not really. As the article says: "Virkkunen plans to look at how Apple and Google handle fake apps in their App Stores, like fake bank apps.". Note: "in their app stores". Some alternative App Store is not Apple's App Store, EU wants to know what Apple is doing when it comes to their official App Store. I really don't see what the issue is here.

Why aren't EU going after those other App Stores? Probably because they are tiny, so they focus on the handful of stores that cover the overwhelming majority of the market.
 
So the EU regulators force Apple to create more favorable conditions for App Store frauds, malacious actors, etc. the they put the onus on Apple to to fight and bear the cost of their bad decisions?

Quite typical of EU regulatory authorities and not really surprising.
 
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EU should just pass a mandatory annual tax on large tech companies to help shore up their revenue and get it over with. No need for all these extra steps.
"pass a mandatory annual tax on tech companies ..."

How EU of you.
 
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It very much is Apple's problem, because Apple made it their problem. First off, the EU is only asking about Apple's own App Store and how it prevents scams in there. It's not asking about iOS as a platform.

However; Apple explicitly went out of its way to be malicious in how it implemented the DMA by requiring apps that want to publish in third party app stores to still be validated by them and pay for that too. If the EU wants them to answer for how scams get through that process, that is fair game too. Microsoft and Google don't do this, so it won't be a problem for them. Apple decided to create a malicious system to discourage users, and if the EU now comes knocking on their door for it, well... Karma.

Regardless, there were - and still are - plenty of apps in the App Store today that scam users into ridiculous weekly subscriptions, etc. So let's not pretend Apple is doing a very good job even in its own app store either.

It's sad to see that instead this article is clearly just jumping on Apple's bandwagon and maliciously portraying the situation and what is being asked of them, just even the title alone, and sadly the comments don't seem to be any better.
Perhaps your view of who is off is the view that is off?

The article makes excellent points and reflects back the situation EU regulators have fertilized with their interference. Perhaps they didn't create it, but they have given it a meal for for the finest malicious actors and now said to Apple you fix the mess we have made a lot worse.

All the pro EU regulatory and anti Apple bias demonstrated by comments like what I just read are very disappointing. The irony of forcing open a system that previously performed far better than alternatives and then placing the onus for new weaknesses on Apple is hypocrisy. As most of us know, the EU excels at such behaviors.
 
Reminds me how the EU demands companies to protect user data with end to end encryption but at the same time is working on a law to require companies to provide real time access to user data. Politicians excluded of course
 
No. you seem confused.
I don't think so. That would seem to be more applicable to those who blindly support EU regulatory authorities and their rationalizations they claim are done in the name of market fairness.

The Americans will wake up soon and then the thread will test the limits of moderation just as most threads that touch on EU regulatory actions do.
 
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