I'd just hate to see the warranty claims.Good!
People should be allowed to do these things with their devices if they'd like to
I'd just hate to see the warranty claims.Good!
People should be allowed to do these things with their devices if they'd like to
AI is not as smart as you think it is.Um we need to add some AI to prevent on safari and Reddit
Fascinating display of some holier than thou thinking in here
I don't see anyone clamoring for a ban on Safari (or other web browsers)
Ladies and Gentlemen ... corporations are not here to be moral police
They didn’t.Apple chose the commission approach, for better or worse, and made it apply to everything
You will be. And so will the majority.I do, however, worry about “exclusivity” agreements becoming the norm, and the majority who want to stay in the walled garden won’t be able to.
You could simply use the age restriction option of the Apple ecosystem system. It’s good enough.Um we need to add some AI to prevent on safari and Reddit
Nah. In reality, people who prefer Apple products will still choose Apple products, accepting a subpar experience in these aspects.It doesn't. Android exists. If downloading porn apps is that important to the market, then Android will prosper and Apple will suffer, forcing Apple to change its stance or accept lower profits as a result.
No AI is better… kids can use apple devices why not? But AI to block everything +18? Do you guys really need those?You could simply use the age restriction option of the Apple ecosystem system. It’s good enough.
Not if I have to use that app for my work, I don’t.You will be. And so will the majority.
They can use another app instead - that remains distributed through Apple’s App Store - to remain within the walled garden.
My employer can.There are hundreds of thousands of apps by thousands of developers.
Nobody forces you use the one that went exclusive with another store.
What a ridiculous argument. If you want an open ecosystem, you have that option. You support taking away the option for everyone who wants a closed ecosystem because you think you know better.You do “need” that app though?
👉 Then stop telling people “oh, but there’s always Android you can switch too”.
Then the market shows they’re not as important as everything else Apple offers with its products. But you can’t argue “Apple should let the free market work” because they are. If sideloading or porn apps are important to you, they’re not stopping you from using Android. They’re not signing exclusivity agreements with the top apps to keep them only on iOS. They’re not preventing Google from listing a “switch to Android” app. Those are the types of things ACTUAL monopolists do.Nah. In reality, people who prefer Apple products will still choose Apple products, accepting a subpar experience in these aspects.
Some will, yes. That’s the free market working.Look at the Fortnite debacle, the Xbox Cloud Gaming situation, or the whole App Store’s adult content censorship thing. Do you really think people will go through the tedious process of moving everything from iCloud to Google, recreating passkeys, resetting 2FA keys, etc., just to play Fortnite on the go? Some will, but most will just play an inferior cloud-streaming version or another game altogether.
No, the EU’s draconian regulations have already made every single iPhone worse. All the time energy spent implementing this mess of a law that gives away Apple’s IP to, for example, pornographers, is engineering resources not spent on fixing bugs and implementing new features.So government regulation literally improves your iPhone experience![]()
It's an insult to Tim personally to think that a company with $3.5 trillion market cap can't hire a couple more engineers.No, the EU’s draconian regulations have already made every single iPhone worse. All the time energy spent implementing this mess of a law that gives away Apple’s IP to, for example, pornographers, is engineering resources not spent on fixing bugs and implementing new features.
What makes you believe this? In my experience, third party apps drain more battery than safariBattery life using this app is probably better than accessing it via safari.
You can't always just throw more engineers at a problem, especially for a temporary effort that has to interact with every single part of the OS.It's an insult to Tim personally to think that a company with $3.5 trillion market cap can't hire a couple more engineers.
I fundamentally disagree that this "objectively makes iOS a better platform." I think it makes it worse.And again, this objectively makes iOS a better platform even if you can't take advantage of expanded iOS functionality just yet. This will result into more safeguards, and this will lay groundwork for opening up iOS in other countries when the time comes. And you get new features such as ability to easily change default apps: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/iphone/iphc57feab64/ios
That functionality sounds like a great way to facilitate malware transmission. I definitely will not be happy about that.BTW, even I cannot use this advanced version of iOS because my Apple ID is tied to non-EU country (for cheaper iCloud storage and Music), and Apple checks that...... So more regulation is needed and will happen, to the point where I can just AirDrop an .ipa file onto my iPhone and install it right away no questions asked, and you'll be happy about that 🙃
What makes you believe this? In my experience, third party apps drain more battery than safari
Not if I have to use that app for my work, I don’t.
1. You should have done your research before taking up that employment.My employer can.
…but my family communicate through Apple’s proprietary iMessage and FaceTime protocols.What a ridiculous argument. If you want an open ecosystem, you have that option
If you limit your software installations to Apple’s App Store, your system remains as closed as before.You support taking away the option for everyone who wants a closed ecosystem
What’s ridiculous is:What a ridiculous argument.
It’s a dishonest argument at least with regard to installation of apps.All the time energy spent implementing this mess of a law that gives away Apple’s IP to, for example, pornographers, is engineering resources not spent on fixing bugs and implementing new features.
I don't even know how to begin to respond to the utter ridiculousness in your message so I'm going to disengage. Have a good one!1. You should have done your research before taking up that employment.
(The details of exactly which apps were available or not don’t matter here. Any developer developing apps used by your employer is free to stop support or withdraw from the market at any time. So is Apple. Or your employer to change platforms. What matters is: can they make you use your personal device and certain apps on it?).
2. You can still switch employers.
Nobody forced you to be employed by your employer. Well, except the military, maybe - though I heard they don’t do that in the U.S. anymore.
I’m sure the great majority of people, in fact, are not employed by your employer. I’m quite certain that your employer’s share of the employed workforce is less than the 25% or so “minority marketshare” you like to quote for Apple for in Europe.
3. More seriously though, you can use another secondary work phone/device.
Look, it may be unpleasant and inconvenient - but so is my switching away from Apple to Android just as much.
…but my family communicate through Apple’s proprietary iMessage and FaceTime protocols.
While you can get another job, I can’t get another family.
If you limit your software installations to Apple’s App Store, your system remains as closed as before.
What’s ridiculous is:
- Your claiming that you might be “forced” to use a different application store
- while bluntly dismissing others by pointing out that Android exists and they can/should buy and use it.
It’s a dishonest argument at least with regard to installation of apps.
Apple needed nothing more than “flipping a switch” to comply by allowing self-signed apps. Just as they do for enterprise developers - or on macOS. The infrastructure has been in place for many years.
It's just a book, not the bible...Page 517 of Isaacson’s bio:
"You might care more about porn when you have kids,” replied Jobs. "It's not about freedom, it's about Apple trying to do the right thing for its users."
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It's just a book, not the bible...
It's about freedom... for that guy it was only about money. To remove freedom to force user to buy things using it store.
An app-store is not the future, it is the past, like when we had to use "Tucows", just to download an app to see the weather.
Or X/Twitter for that matter. That place is FLOODED with porn. And a lot of these people will intentionally add hashtags of trending topics in order for their content to come up in everyone's feed when looking at relevant tweets. If Apple is so concerned with this type of thing perhaps they should redirect their attention to X and coerce them into creating safeguards that, at the very least, reduce the probability of accidentally viewing porn on your feed.How's that different from Reddit, the native, globally accessible from Apple App Store, porn app?
How about acknowledging that “buying an Android instead”, let alone switching to it, can be difficult, expensive or impractical for users?I don't even know how to begin to respond to the utter ridiculousness in your message
Of course it (my previous post above) was.the utter ridiculousness in your message