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Eve Rolling Out Matter Firmware Update for Select Products
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That MAY in fact be true for Nanoleaf. You have no idea exactly what chips they are using, or how much memory space they have available on their chips, or whatever.
The fact that Eve can do this (on SOME of their devices, note not all of them) has zero relevance to whether other companies using other chipsets can do it.
That makes sense and is also kind of what I said. Just goes to show how badly worded the original statement was.
From my understanding, Hue does that with WiFi to the hub and then Zigbee as transport to end devices. It’s Matter in that control is allowed by multiple ecosystems and not just HomeKit. Still some features unavailable outside the Hue app.
IT'S HAPPENING, PEOPLE!!!
Love that Eve is the first to the space here. (besides Apple I guess). They're always pushing the envelope on technology and I love how they're focused on Privacy as well. I'll continue supporting them for a long time.
Love that Eve is the first to the space here. (besides Apple I guess). They're always pushing the envelope on technology and I love how they're focused on Privacy as well. I'll continue supporting them for a long time.
The latter is not the case. Nanoleaf bulbs support Thread, but the current generation won't support Matter - not enough memory. The next gen models will have Matter support.
Whilst I was excited for Matter & what it brings meaning a whole boatload of devices can be seen in the Home app, the realisation now is a bit of disappointment.
Sure I can now buy cameras which can use the Home app, but I'm crippled in that it does not mean Homekit Secure Video compatibility, so looks like there still very few to choose from & I can't see Matter changing that,
Sure I can now buy cameras which can use the Home app, but I'm crippled in that it does not mean Homekit Secure Video compatibility, so looks like there still very few to choose from & I can't see Matter changing that,
How so? I’ve been very happy with the app their hardware. Eve’s thread enabled hardware has been rock-solid and very reliable. The app is also great for seeing the status of my thread network. I also like their focus on user privacy.
It’s possible that older devices that can’t be upgraded to the newest HomeKit would no longer be able to control these accessories. I have an iPad Air (1st gen) on my wall that’s stuck on iOS 12 that won’t be able to control my home once I update to the new HomeKit architecture. Eve seems to be transitioning to this same architecture which is why it needs iOS 16.2. And that’s why these upgrades are optional.
Remember all those “house of the future” Looney Tunes from like the 50s? Nothing quite worked right there either. A chilling vision of things to come.
AFAIK, at this time, Matter can use Thread or WiFi for transport, and in the case of Thread, is required to use Bluetooth LE for initial setup (perhaps there is no standard way to do that directly via Thread accessible from controlling devices like most smartphones, given that most existing smartphones do not have the hardware to directly speak Thread); whereas there are existing ways to set up new WiFi devices (like having them come up initially as an access point for an SSID with a documented name, such that you temporarily switch you phone to be on that WiFi - or in some cases, the setup app handles that for you). And I gather other IPv6 capable transports such as wired Ethernet or cellular modem are quite possible.
As such, for example Philips Hue uses Zigbee to talk to the bulbs and switches, but has a bridge that speaks both Zigbee and wired Ethernet. What I've heard is that there will be a firmware upgrade for the bridge, that will speak Matter (presumably over the Ethernet side).
So no Matter over bridge-less Zigbee, but since Zigbee requires a coordinator device even for local inter-device communication and requires a bridge for access to the Internet or by non-Zigbee-speaking devices, if the bridge is upgradeable, no big deal except waiting for the upgrade.
What I think is chilling is the lack of ECC RAM and CPUs in IoT devices, along with the lack of a commitment to either a minimum of five years of firmware security updates or preferably open source firmware. Without those, something that works today may randomly glitch or need to be power cycled (unplugged) at some unpredictable future time (what the ECC would help minimize) or be hackable by bad guys (what you need a commitment to security updates for).
Even industrial control (SCADA) devices have security issues due to either lack of firmware updates or the updates not being installed (a serious infrastructure vulnerability if not carefully managed, although I hope at least some of them do have decent ECC hardware). But the number of SCADA devices is tiny compared to the potential number of home automation IoT devices, and I really don't want some adversary where most of the hardware is actually made deciding to do leave a hardware or firmware back door allowing some massive denial of service attacks (or worse, like turn everything on that might be a heavy power draw or hopefully hazardous, while turning everything else off that's on) on both IoT and SCADA devices. That's at least as bad in its own way as the potential of now banned in the US Huawei devices infiltrating comms systems. Fully open source end device and hub firmware might make that preventable, not sure anything less would.
Does Matter allow patching devices through a non-vendor app? If not you'd still need them for that.
The whole point of Matter is that a device will work with Apple, Amazon, or Google ecosystems. Previous to Matter devices had to be certified with each, and often times there were different versions of a device for each ecosystem. Now hardware manufacturers can release one device that will work on all ecosystems. It has nothing to do with proprietary apps, many manufacturers will still release them.
I recall when they were elgato and made some excellent av stuff like tv recorders etc
Not really into all this smart home stuff tbh , feels a bit like big brother taking over
Blip on your social credit score ? , get locked out of your own house …
Not really into all this smart home stuff tbh , feels a bit like big brother taking over
Blip on your social credit score ? , get locked out of your own house …
I recall that during Matter's development, OTA Firmware Updates were in the Matter specification.
Matter devices are operated via Controllers (i.e. HomePod, Apple TV, Amazon Echo, etc). These Controllers connect the devices to the internet, pool their status (on/off, firmware version, etc) and are able to perform OTA updates.
Decent read over at the Verge about this
www.theverge.com
I just got a bunch more Eve Energy devices in today. I had a mish-mash of Belkin and Eve stuff and I've chosen to consolidate towards the Eve side primary because they are moving forward rather quickly with the Matter implementation. (I do have some Wemo WSP100 devices that need a new home so to speak; separate thread in the buy/sell forums).
When the Eve Energy devices I have are updated to Matter, they will only work in Matter-enabled environments. This means they cannot work in legacy HomeKit environments (prior to iOS 16.2 basically), but they will be able to work in any Matter ecosystem (SamSung SmartThings, Google Home, and of course Apple Home, etc). This is kind of the point of Matter: to have smart home devices that can work seamlessly in any ecosystem. Matter is a sort of universal language these devices will speak, regardless of the ecosystem.
Anyway check out the article.**
If you want to switch to Matter now with Eve devices it's kind of a clunky process and has a few requirements. I'll be fumbling through this over the course of the week. Sometime in early 2023 we can expect the devices to ship with Matter built-in by default.
**Not affiliated with Eve or The Verge whatsoever, merely a home automation hobbiest!
Matter is finally actually here
Eve releases a Matter update to its motion and contact sensors and smart plug.
www.theverge.com
I just got a bunch more Eve Energy devices in today. I had a mish-mash of Belkin and Eve stuff and I've chosen to consolidate towards the Eve side primary because they are moving forward rather quickly with the Matter implementation. (I do have some Wemo WSP100 devices that need a new home so to speak; separate thread in the buy/sell forums).
When the Eve Energy devices I have are updated to Matter, they will only work in Matter-enabled environments. This means they cannot work in legacy HomeKit environments (prior to iOS 16.2 basically), but they will be able to work in any Matter ecosystem (SamSung SmartThings, Google Home, and of course Apple Home, etc). This is kind of the point of Matter: to have smart home devices that can work seamlessly in any ecosystem. Matter is a sort of universal language these devices will speak, regardless of the ecosystem.
Anyway check out the article.**
If you want to switch to Matter now with Eve devices it's kind of a clunky process and has a few requirements. I'll be fumbling through this over the course of the week. Sometime in early 2023 we can expect the devices to ship with Matter built-in by default.
**Not affiliated with Eve or The Verge whatsoever, merely a home automation hobbiest!
