Everything Announced at Today's Apple Event in 6 Minutes

Looks good and will probably get the Air for my son.

I do feel it’s pretty striking how undiverse Apple‘s workforce is, especially management and senior roles.
 
waterfta said:
Macduke is saying they slapped these chips into machines that were designed for Intel chips from the start instead of from the ground up for Apple silicon.

I feel like that answer is maybe half true. It seems the Intel silicon should have never been in these in the first place, especially as they are always overheating/thermal throttling. I think Apple expected more from Intel (less heat issues/more power) and they didn't get it and decided "well, guess we gotta do it ourselves!"
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What you’re saying he’s saying still doesn’t make sense. Coffee Lake is a CPU while M1 is a SoC, they’re not functionally interchangeable. The two boards are very different, so I don’t see how there was any “slapping.” I’d like to hear the explanation from him.
 
I’m holding out for a 16“ turbo charged version. At the moment, these things look incredibly underpowered for Adobe CC usage.

I’m crossing my fingers for some kind of M1X or P1 (P is for power) chip that has more in it... Much more.
 
macduke said:
Hope they are able to deliver more powerful professional machines with adequate levels of RAM and discrete GPUs in the future. A redesign would also be nice with a 14" MBP.

As I've said all along, it doesn't make much sense to buy into this right away. Things will improve as apps are made native, bugs are worked out, and Apple can build upon what they've already shown us hardware wise. Think how quickly things accelerated from the A4 in the first iPad. These early machines are largely Intel Macs with Apple Silicon. I'm looking forward to see what a Mac is like that's completely redesigned around this new silicon. I'm planning to get the 2nd or third generation.
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These could of course have been designed with Apple Silicon in mind years in advance. We don’t know.
It certainly were very useable machines when Apple made the last cpu transition and should be way less problematic this tome around as performance levels are way different now.
 
DVD9 said:
The Mac mini models with M1 chips, priced at $699 and $899

Underpowered, overpriced garbage. Fanboys bought Apple stock when it split so watch the RED "disagrees" accumulate under my inconvenient truth.
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Wonderfully posted to stir it up.
Fanboys now buy Apple stock? LOL.
 
HiRez said:
Looks like we'll never again discuss anything-hertz again with Macs, it's all just here's the chip, it's faster, deal with it.
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As long as there are benchmark suites they are far more telling than a MHz clock speed.
 
Kabeyun said:
What you’re saying he’s saying still doesn’t make sense. Coffee Lake is a CPU while M1 is a SoC, they’re not functionally interchangeable. The two boards are very different, so I don’t see how there was any “slapping.” I’d like to hear the explanation from him.
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I think it's pretty self explanatory, but, let me elaborate and make a few assumptions on macduke's behalf.

If you combine a lot of chips from other parts of the board onto one M1 chip, you could make a smaller board (which they may have done, sure). This could allow for other parts inside to be moved around differently/more efficiently (which again, until teardown, don't know, they may have done). If this leads to better thermal solutions, they could have less need for cooling (arguably something Apple doesn't seem to care about anyway in the past, but....that's not the argument...they removed the fan from the one anyhow).

So, what if instead of making all these changes because of the chip change, they could start from scratch? What would that look like? Would they have been able to re-design the entire computer in a way that.

I'd say the new gaming consoles are the most obvious comparison. They were designed from the ground up for their new chipsets, not just adapted to an old console design.

Hope that helps!
 
madgick said:
I should give up hoping to see AirTags ever released
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I've been thinking about this. Perhaps AirTags have been held for release until all new Apple platforms have devices with UWB. I believe Apple wants to do far more than "Find my [XXX]" with AirTags -- the precise real-time location functionality lends itself well to AR/VR and other gaming applications. "Dance Dance" type games should be a slam-dunk, as will others.

Does the M1 chip have UWB? I've looked at many releases, but can't find the answer. I strongly suspect it does and that we'll find out in the next week or so through scrutiny of the chip in teardowns.
 
brdeveloper said:
Yes... I doubt they will be 10-years usable like 2010 to 2013 Macs. A 2010 white Macbook is still a decent machine for browsing, even more with a SSD and 8GB of RAM (although it supports 16GB). My 2013 MBP will certainly be usable in 2023 even if stuck with Catalina (which is the case actually) just like High Sierra Macs are pretty usable in 2020.
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Yes, I have a High Sierra Nov 2011 MBP that I chucked in 16GB RAM and swapped in a SSD. Still happily chugging away, but I have just ordered a Mac Mini M1, so the MBP will become my back-up machine or if I want to be ‘mobile’ at home...
 
I ordered the new MacBook Pro m1 on the day it was announced. I noticed on the tracking it’s scheduled to be delivered today. I was wondering if anyone else that ordered one of the new macs are seeing this? Thanks
 
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