So this means teachers can keep kids from playing games on the iPad when they should be working on productive work?
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Everything Apple Announced at Today's Educational Event in Under Three Minutes
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The new iPad is missing a smart connector. Such a glaringly obvious omission. Students more than most users will need a keyboard. Not being able to use the Smart Keyboard is so strange, specially after teachers asked for non Bluetooth keyboards to avoid pairing problems and Apple has already deployed a low cost, simple solution. It’s inexplicable how they left that out.
Just amazes me, how I've posted, again and again and AGAIN over the years, every since iPad 1 Launch about how much finer control a pen/stylus/pencil (same difference) would give you as opposed to using the fat end of a human finger.
I tried, without success to rationally explain, than NO a stylus type device was not going back in time. Humans started in caves and as babies today by using fingers, and then as we evolved we created finer tools (pen/stylus) to give us the ability to become more accurate in what we could create on a surface.
And yet, for years, I was told, no, I'm wrong. Steve said so. Stylus type things are a fail, no-one wants them, old devices used those. I was simply wrong 100%
And yet........... Here we are........
I tried, without success to rationally explain, than NO a stylus type device was not going back in time. Humans started in caves and as babies today by using fingers, and then as we evolved we created finer tools (pen/stylus) to give us the ability to become more accurate in what we could create on a surface.
And yet, for years, I was told, no, I'm wrong. Steve said so. Stylus type things are a fail, no-one wants them, old devices used those. I was simply wrong 100%
And yet........... Here we are........
Another teaching moment about internet clickbait on possible Apple product releases.
No, the MacPro isn't appropriate for a grade schooler, but a MacMini certainly is. There are probably going to be lots of kids who were born on the day that the last MacMini was released who will be going into grade school before the next one is released.
An event presented as education based. Taking place at school. Seems pretty clear to me. People need to stop raising their expectations everytime Apple has any sort of presentation.
Oh, I knew it was going to be education-related.
I was not expecting new iPhones, etc.
The issue is that they leaked info on some products slated for March release, held a March event, then did not release all of them afterward.
Well I feel like an idiot. I bought a 9.7 Pro for the Smart Keyboard and Apple Pencil two months before they announced the devices with larger screens. I knew they were coming but wanted the Smart Keyboard and Pencil. I would have spent 50% less had I waited. Oh well, I had no idea they’d release a cheaper iPad that supports the Apple Pencil.
That's a confusing comment. Apple has always put profit first. They have never gone 'cheap' to grow market. Not once. I for think they should at this point find a strategy that works where their margins become 10% instead of 30. But they don't seem to follow my advice, which is why they are still making money hand over fist. Google isn't razor focused on anything. But they are hungry. They will try and fit into any space with lowest common denominator hardware and software. And that works for them given their desire to sell your personal life. Apple will never compete with Google in cheap classroom hardware (software or hardware) just as they never competed with Windows for cheap classroom systems. I keep thinking at some point, using their leverage in the supply chain that lets them manufacture cheaper than anyone else right now, they could just go all into a market like education and put out devices and solutions that are drastically cheaper and dominate a market. But I guess there isn't enough upside profit wise.
Apple has prioritized making amazingly great products which enable people to do things. I haven't seen anything that qualifies since the release of the iPhone.
i know right? you know it's bad when even the summary is boring.
An updated, low cost MacBook Air would have been good for education. Think of high school and college students that need more than an iPad. Oh well, missed opportunity there.
HobeSoundDarryl
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Just amazes me, how I've posted, again and again and AGAIN over the years, every since iPad 1 Launch about how much finer control a pen/stylus/pencil (same difference) would give you as opposed to using the fat end of a human finger.
I tried, without success to rationally explain, than NO a stylus type device was not going back in time. Humans started in caves and as babies today by using fingers, and then as we evolved we created finer tools (pen/stylus) to give us the ability to become more accurate in what we could create on a surface.
And yet, for years, I was told, no, I'm wrong. Steve said so. Stylus type things are a fail, no-one wants them, old devices used those. I was simply wrong 100%
And yet........... Here we are........
You should know by now:
- Before Apple embraces something, that something is stupid, useless, gimmick that "99% don't want"
- WHEN Apple gets around to embracing that same something, it becomes a primary driver of "shut up and take my money."
Only when that corporation decides to change, shall you- as a consumer- change too... and then only WITH them. What you may have hated (and even written down rip-roaring hate for in the past) before the corporation adopts it may require up to a 180-degree, flip-flop of your opinion when the corporation does, in fact, adopt that very thing. Then you are to LOVE it, covet it, have to have it so badly you'll set your alarm for 3am to try to be first to get it. AND, you also have the simultaneous obligation to pile into forums and convince everyone else they should want it too, while shouting down the naysayers who may still have their own opinions that differ from what the corporation has decided that all consumers should want at that point in time.
These are the laws of the Apple. Comply... or feel the wrath of the fans for daring to "think different" than whatever aligns with whatever a corporation has for sale at that point in time. Resistance is futile.
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The Edu program leadership at Apple must be suffering from borderline syndrome not to see what a chromebook costs, what the impact of Google's product-, content-, exam provisioning is, how its program and process mgt. work via G-suite and other tools that have lead to a Chromified world.
Apple's offering, apart from some $100 price decrease, didn't change anything from its former position where it was unable to compete.
No single Institute will ever give up G-suite for Classroom, unless it has become completely iPad-only (maybe Art schools)
No mixed environment will ever standardize on iCloud or Apples' Classroom tools - as content distribution will not function.
Apple is isolating itself by its walled garden.
Therefore, the only one benefiting from today's offering is that singular, rich iPad schoolkid on the first row in a Chromified world - that will never become the norm and won't notice nor need the $100 discount because its parents will be paying anyway.
"What's a computer ?" Apple can't explain her and she'll migrate to Chrome before completely getting disconnected from the school programming. Bye.
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HobeSoundDarryl
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2018 Apple ad: "What's a computer?"
Pretty nice for art class, useless for everything else. 1980's all over again. Thanks soda guy....I mean Timmy Cook. They really need to bring back Scott Forstall.
Hah, I got a kick out of reading that.Just amazes me, how I've posted, again and again and AGAIN over the years, every since iPad 1 Launch about how much finer control a pen/stylus/pencil (same difference) would give you as opposed to using the fat end of a human finger.
I tried, without success to rationally explain, than NO a stylus type device was not going back in time. Humans started in caves and as babies today by using fingers, and then as we evolved we created finer tools (pen/stylus) to give us the ability to become more accurate in what we could create on a surface.
And yet, for years, I was told, no, I'm wrong. Steve said so. Stylus type things are a fail, no-one wants them, old devices used those. I was simply wrong 100%
And yet........... Here we are........
Steve did say no to a stylus on a phone...
Do you think he would say no to a stylus on a tablet?
Do you think we'll ever see stylus on an Apple phone?
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Aging tech at still new prices = great profit-per-unit-sold. See Mac Mini too. And Mac Pro. Etc.
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Apple is utterly tone deaf not he education front for the few amount of dollars schools have to spend.