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What amazes me, other than those incredible technologies, is that Google, OpenAI etc are introducing new tools and they're available almost immediately.

Apple introduces something and only a supreme being knows when it will be, and if it will be, available.
 
I’ve been experimenting with it for the past 24 hours, and I must say, it’s a refreshing experience. The overall visual appeal and the fluidity of the entire interface is significantly nicer than iOS, making me tempted to try their next Pixel XL. 😊

Experimenting with what exactly?
 
As I said elsewhere a while ago.

It was different with Apple being behind Google when it came to maps.
Maps don't change a while lot, other that some cosmetic tweaks and detail improvements.
That allowed Apple the years it needed to catch up and be a worthwhile competitor in the maps space.

But with AI this is totally different. AI isn't a done thing, and the others will just fiddle a bit whilst Apple takes the years it needs to again catch up.

In say 3 years time, Apple may be where others are today, but by then others will be 3 years more advanced than today.

IMHO Apple needs to accept they missed or rather ignored the boat, and need to pair up or more likely but into others work.

Which of course they should not do if they really wanted to maintain their user privacy policy they talk about.
 
I don’t see how Apple can catch up in the short term. The established players in AI seem to be moving further ahead.
 
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I don’t want to be apart of this dystopian future anymore. I think this is the point where I drop out. I prefer computing how it was before all this AI Agent and generative slop nonsense. I like actually interacting with tech to get tasks done and retaining human creativity and critical thinking.


While others bash Apple for not being at the forefront of AI, I almost wish they’d continue to lag behind and take a cultural stance that they won’t be a part of this soulless future. Obviously they won’t, because profits have to go brrrrr, but it’s a nice dream.
 
Well, the have nots don’t need it in the first place, so...
Most ai has 3 tiers. Free for casual use, low paid for a typical active consumer user, and a few hundred a month fully unlimited for enterprises and research institutions.
 
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And here we are, sitting with an iPad Pro, which is more powerful than most laptops, and it is just an ordinary tablet. Just imagine: If you hooked it up to an external monitor, it could behave like a Mac. I think many would prefer going for it.

That would absolutely slaughter Mac hardware sales Apple did that….
 
That would absolutely slaughter Mac hardware sales Apple did that….
Indeed.
It's such a shame when you have an amazing piece of hardware, but sit around a table a decide you will not improve it and continue to keep it crippled forever, despite what it could do, because you don't wish to harm profits from a different device you make.

Thank god the whole industry does not work this way, else we'd still be living in caves made by apple.
The Apple iCave ;)
 
As I said elsewhere a while ago.

It was different with Apple being behind Google when it came to maps.
Maps don't change a while lot, other that some cosmetic tweaks and detail improvements.
That allowed Apple the years it needed to catch up and be a worthwhile competitor in the maps space.

But with AI this is totally different. AI isn't a done thing, and the others will just fiddle a bit whilst Apple takes the years it needs to again catch up.

In say 3 years time, Apple may be where others are today, but by then others will be 3 years more advanced than today.

IMHO Apple needs to accept they missed or rather ignored the boat, and need to pair up or more likely but into others work.

Which of course they should not do if they really wanted to maintain their user privacy policy they talk about.
Agreed, very happy with Apple hardware and OS, but not seeing how Apple can keep up with dedicated AI labs like this. It's not very "Apple" like, but they need to integrate third party (gemini or openAI) assistants. Otherwise Apple users will be stuck in the relative dark ages with Siri saying "I found this on the web" like it's 2011 while Google users are having their assistants find and parse pdfs, make calls, and complete other tasks.

The situation is already artificially bad, there's many questions throughout the day I could have resolved quickly and hands-free via chatGPT conversation, except that Siri stands in the way. All the technology is already here.
 
Almost thought this pricing was too good to be true, $125 for 3 months, ~$42/month. Thats worth it to a bunch of people I know. The actual pricing is pretty crazy, I know zero people that would pay that.
 
That's pretty wild... I mean, the 30TB of cloud storage + YouTube premium kind of makes up for it, but still... :eek:
For 250$/mo one can make local server out of bunch of SSDs, old computers and nothing more. Fully private as a plus and no Google tracking😃

Some people will say this is a bargain for their needs, wants, desires…$3,000 per year, too rich for my blood.
A goldmine for crypto-scammers since they will generate tons of useless videos to scam people on socials
 
I don’t see how Apple can catch up in the short term.
Seeing as how pretty much everything introduced here will be available on iOS, they don’t really have to.
That’s why pretty much all of these “Apple is doomed” comments are hilarious.
Apple and Google are both partners and competitors, just like Apple and Microsoft, Apple and Samsung, etc.
Google‘s announcements yesterday were absolutely impressive, but pretty much nothing had me even slightly more interested in switching to android.
Remember, what is the default search engine on the iPhone? Oh yeah, Google.
Who offers pretty much all of their services on the iPhone? Oh yeah, Google.
Who has literally in the past introduced features to their iOS apps, even before their android counterparts? Oh yeah, Google.
 
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Google IO's keynote represented a major pivot on Google's part away from search towards AI. That's a reasonable thing as search is being threatened on the legal front (EU, US DOJ) and the tech front (AI competitors). These are clearly existential threats to them. But if you look at IO through the lens of a broken up Google, you see a lot of potential disarray. For instance, if search has to be cleaved out of Google, how does a data licensing deal work since AI requires Google's data and servers to work? And if the AI-search link is broken, how does Google's cashcow, the ad network, fit in? If Apple keeps falling behind, what's to stop them from throwing the doors wide open for OpenAI/Perplexity/DeepMind/MSFT? Apple regained relevance in the late 90's by embracing the open web. This battle's still in the early stages.
 
This is an ad that just popped up. Apple is kinda funny. Google just introduced this amazing tech and Apple advertises Siri as my asistente de siempre 😅

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Meanwhile, iMessage can’t even reply automatically to the original language of the message. I always need to select the language when voice dictating 😡

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That’s why pretty much all of these “Apple is doomed” comments are hilarious.
Apple is behind in AI as they were in search. With the way things are rapidly improving in the AI space, I don't see their own internal AI efforts catching up. Just like search, they'll have no choice but to partner which leaves the future of their platforms at the mercy of a 3rd party.
 
The funny thing is at first it was comical how this whole Apple intelligence went down. To all the missed promises and finding out it was all vapor and fake. It was interesting to see a company so large make such a disastrous move.

But as it goes further and ChatGPT and Gemini expand their ai and features and now Gemini expanding ai features to work on the iPhone better than any ai feature iPhone has, it’s gone pass comical to sad. It’s like watching a baby get hit with a puppy.

Gemini and ChatGPT vs Apple intelligence is like comparing a guy riding in maybach to a guy walking with crutches. It’s hard to watch now.

And I’m an iPhone user and I’m like this is a beating

It demonstrates how ecosystem captive people are. Apple has had ups and downs with eras of less than stellar products, but it was relatively simple for must consumers to just spend the money on IBM compatible instead.

Now, I really want a Pixel because I am a tech guy and I like good tech.

My entire life history since 2009 is on Apple photos, my mom, 3 kids, wife all have iPhones and/or iPads. We al have Macs, Apple TVs, watches, AirPods. HomeKit throughout our house.

It's hard to switch, and only gets more daunting.

The ecosystem used to be the big draw for Apple. Now it's the trap we can't escape.
 
Incredible event for what they are coming out with. So many good things for those who use it all.

Apple should just join forces with Gemini at this point
 
It demonstrates how ecosystem captive people are. Apple has had ups and downs with eras of less than stellar products, but it was relatively simple for must consumers to just spend the money on IBM compatible instead.

Now, I really want a Pixel because I am a tech guy and I like good tech.

My entire life history since 2009 is on Apple photos, my mom, 3 kids, wife all have iPhones and/or iPads. We al have Macs, Apple TVs, watches, AirPods. HomeKit throughout our house.

It's hard to switch, and only gets more daunting.

The ecosystem used to be the big draw for Apple. Now it's the trap we can't escape.
You don't have to dump all of that just to switch one phone, but you will have to dump your watch and maybe your AirPods unless you keep your old iPhone(s) to manage them, or give them to your family. I'd keep the old one around as a spare controller for Homekit, anyway, but as I've come at this from the Android direction I've never tried to sell my old gear.
 
Apple is at risk of becoming the next Nokia if they don't get their AI systems on par. Right now, it's a joke.
 
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I just saw some of the demos, in particular VO3, their text-to-image with sound app. It makes me think AI is now officially magic.

If I ever said Apple had nothing to worry about when it comes to AI, then I have to walk that back. Google is doing amazing work with AI and widening the chasm so much that Apple and everyone else need to take this more seriously.
 
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