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Everything New in iOS 17 Beta 2
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Why is there a section line in there? The crossfade option and duration belong together; there shouldn't be a line between them. I think Apple lost their eye for detail.
All I want is for Apple to allow the user to place the app icons anywhere on the display. If they won’t do that at least make it so the apps fall to the bottom of the display instead of the top.
Do tell. I thought my kids were using their devices longer than they should but I don't know how.
The Files app on iPadOS 17 now offers new options for external drives! 👍🏻. I go into more specifics about it in this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...vements-coming-to-files-in-ipados-17.2393939/
HEADS UP, installing iOS 17 beta 2 over iOS 16.6 beta 3 bricked my device. I installed the second beta over beta 3 of iOS 16.6 on my iPhone 14 Pro Max, and things were working ok for awhile—although when I tried to install the beta for my Watch Ultra it hung during the download process, saying that it was paused until I connected to Wi-Fi, and I was already connected to Wi-Fi. So in order to get my watch working with my phone, I tried a hard reset of my phone, using the usual volume up, volume down and long press on the right button.
When it rebooted, the phone’s screen was unresponsive. Completely unresponsive. The buttons worked, but I couldn’t swipe up to unlock the phone. I tried resetting three timed with no success.
I ended up having to attempt to recover the phone by connecting it to my iMac, which prompted me that it had to download 9gb of software to proceed with the recovery. The recovery failed, and it ended up erasing and reflashing my phone with iOS 16.5.1, the latest stable release.
So in order to recover from my backup, I had to set up the phone as new, install the 16.6 beta 3 firmware again, and recover from my latest backup, which took eight hours to finish. I’m back to where I started again, after setting up my wallet, Face ID, and the other required settings. This was a disaster mitigated only by the recovery of some memory that had been filled with who knows how many caches that had accumulated over time since innumerable dirty firmware installs in the past.
Since I had also installed 17 versions to my iPad Pro, HomePods and Apple TVs, those devices now don’t show up in my HomeKit on my phone running iOS 16.6, and I can only access them via my iPad. And for some reason my HomeKit shows a “Default Room not responding” error, despite my not having a default room. I’ll have to wait for later, more stable releases of the 17 firmwares to resolve all of these issues.
I encourage anyone considering installing the iOS 17 betas to proceed with caution, and I definitely wouldn’t try to install it over the 16.6 betas. And don’t expect your peripherals to play nicely—iOS 16 can’t recognize HomePods or Apple TVs properly when they’re added to your system from the 17 betas, and as expected, these early developer betas definitely have a long way to go.
When it rebooted, the phone’s screen was unresponsive. Completely unresponsive. The buttons worked, but I couldn’t swipe up to unlock the phone. I tried resetting three timed with no success.
I ended up having to attempt to recover the phone by connecting it to my iMac, which prompted me that it had to download 9gb of software to proceed with the recovery. The recovery failed, and it ended up erasing and reflashing my phone with iOS 16.5.1, the latest stable release.
So in order to recover from my backup, I had to set up the phone as new, install the 16.6 beta 3 firmware again, and recover from my latest backup, which took eight hours to finish. I’m back to where I started again, after setting up my wallet, Face ID, and the other required settings. This was a disaster mitigated only by the recovery of some memory that had been filled with who knows how many caches that had accumulated over time since innumerable dirty firmware installs in the past.
Since I had also installed 17 versions to my iPad Pro, HomePods and Apple TVs, those devices now don’t show up in my HomeKit on my phone running iOS 16.6, and I can only access them via my iPad. And for some reason my HomeKit shows a “Default Room not responding” error, despite my not having a default room. I’ll have to wait for later, more stable releases of the 17 firmwares to resolve all of these issues.
I encourage anyone considering installing the iOS 17 betas to proceed with caution, and I definitely wouldn’t try to install it over the 16.6 betas. And don’t expect your peripherals to play nicely—iOS 16 can’t recognize HomePods or Apple TVs properly when they’re added to your system from the 17 betas, and as expected, these early developer betas definitely have a long way to go.
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I can confirm that the folder icons were introduced in the first developer beta for iPadOS 17, so they are definitely new for iPadOS 17. 👍🏻. Don’t know about the other changes, but I really like the new folder icons, they look so much better, the blue isn’t as muted and dusty looking! 👍🏻
Also, if you work with external drives in the Files app, there are now new “Rename” and “Erase” options for external drives when you hold press or right click them! Also, Get Info displays more information about the drive, including it’s maximum capacity, and it’s used capacity!
Hey! Can you export emotions data to a file for sharing to a psychologist or something like that?
There is a bug in iOS that if you have app limits, they can use the 1 more minute to extend the limit and this will essentially work indefinitely.
In addition to that I believe if you extend by one minute 3 times in a row or do something else 3 times in a row (can't remember but I read about it) it removes all app limits you set.
Another issue is that if you delete an app from their device you can't keep them from reinstalling it. Once they've been given access to an app there is no way to turn access back off.
The best way I've found at parental controls is the Qustodio app which requires an annual subscription. But you can see all their searches, app activity, and truly limit all their apps by time. The downside is that it uses a VPN so you have to setup and turn on a VPN on their device but I believe they cannot turn it off.
While I trust my 15 year old (13 year old less so as he is a screen time junkie), I still want controls to keep bad habits from forming. I've noticed more late night usage.
I’ve been pleasantly surprised. I’ll be trad8n* in my iPhone 12 Pro for the 15 Pro in September and the battery capacity in my phone is at 85% which I’ve read is a red line for performance once your battery falls below it and didn’t want to hurt the phones resale value by blowing past that but felt the urge to try the iOS 17 beta so I did a full backup of the phone and was pleasantly surprised to see that battery life hasn’t fallen off much.
I get through the day at work no problem but do have to charge it up after work as I always have. AT&T has a weird coverage issue where I work for a couple of blocks and my phone will say I’ve got a 5G or good LTE signal but good luck actually using the cellular data. I have to flip it to Airplane mode for 10 to 15 seconds to do any serious web browsing or to check or send e-mail in a timely fashion and that only lasts for a few minutes before it slows down to s snails pace during the late morning and afternoon again. Things will go through eventually but it takes time and drains the battery.
It’s been like that for years and was prior to getting the iPhone 12 in that one area. I know it’s AT&T because I’ve signed up for a free T-Mobile 3 month cellular data trial using the built in spare e-sim and if I turn that on and use it as my primary data connection in that are it falls back from 5G to LTE but the data sends and receives at normal LTE speeds unlike with AT&T. The issue is T-Mobile is worse than AT&T where I live and though Verizon is good in both areas there a couple of businesses in town where it’s spotty too but all around it’s the best of the 3 and I’ll probably wind up switching at some point.
My Apple Cash card wouldn’t allow me to transfer funds either: the number pad wouldn’t respond to change the transfer amount. I got the card to work by sliding the Control Center over the screen and toggling the portrait orientation lock off and then back on.
Experiencing a very irritating Siri bug in 17b2 - if you ask Siri to play a song it will ask do you want to play it in;
- Apple Music
- Podcasts
- Apple Books
- TikTok
You have to select every time. When doing so from CarPlay and vocally selecting Apple Music, Siri says “you can do this later from your iPhone, when you aren’t driving of course”
Even more annoying, if I ask a question specifying which app to pick, like “play Mickey Mouse clubhouse theme on Apple Music” it will still ask the above question.
If I ask “play Mickey Mouse Clubhouse” - boom, Disney+ opens straight away and plays Mickey Mouse cartoon
Anybody figure out a workaround for this yet?
- Apple Music
- Podcasts
- Apple Books
- TikTok
You have to select every time. When doing so from CarPlay and vocally selecting Apple Music, Siri says “you can do this later from your iPhone, when you aren’t driving of course”
Even more annoying, if I ask a question specifying which app to pick, like “play Mickey Mouse clubhouse theme on Apple Music” it will still ask the above question.
If I ask “play Mickey Mouse Clubhouse” - boom, Disney+ opens straight away and plays Mickey Mouse cartoon
Anybody figure out a workaround for this yet?
Hello I’m new here!
I updated ios 17 on the first released date and also did second update. And from the first, this contrast of few apps got worse.
Not featured on screenshot so I’m uploading the picture.
Is there anybody has same problem like me? And someone solve this problem?
I updated ios 17 on the first released date and also did second update. And from the first, this contrast of few apps got worse.
Not featured on screenshot so I’m uploading the picture.
Is there anybody has same problem like me? And someone solve this problem?
Zoe, others have shared similar HDR weirdness in this thread, so you’re not alone. I have also had that problem on my device and I know of no solution to it.
Ah it called HDR weirdness! I see.
Thanks for letting me know. Hope this problem solve soon. It’s really annoying 😂
App tips seem like they could either be really useful or really annoying.
