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casperes1996

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Hey! If you find anything changed in the first beta of macOS 10.13.4, I urge you to post it here. Anything as small as a bump in a library's version number to something major.
 
What do you mean?
I rebooted to run the update process as usual. I then found myself in Recovery as if I’d run a macOS reinstall.

(It’s gotten past that step and is now “Completing Installation.”)
[doublepost=1516830824][/doublepost]Also, no real surprise here but Messages on iCloud is present in Messages, and I can confirm it’s working fine (so far at least).

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I rebooted to run the update process as usual. I then found myself in Recovery as if I’d run a macOS reinstall.

(It’s gotten past that step and is now “Completing Installation.”)
[doublepost=1516830824][/doublepost]Also, no real surprise here but Messages on iCloud is present in Messages, and I can confirm it’s working fine (so far at least).

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I had to re-restart before Messages offered me Messages on iCloud.
 
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Beginning with this beta, MacOS starts to nag about 32bit applications needing to be updated to 64bit being launched at least at first run (like iOS did with iOS 10 for 32bit apps).

Booting with -no32exec boot-args can simulate future behaviour where old apps will simply fail with a notification that this app can not be opened.
 
Beginning with this beta, MacOS starts to nag about 32bit applications needing to be updated to 64bit being launched at least at first run (like iOS did with iOS 10 for 32bit apps).

Booting with -no32exec boot-args can simulate future behaviour where old apps will simply fail with a notification that this app can not be opened.
Can I try that behaviour on 10.13.3 to test in advance which are the apps that I use that are still stuck in that 32 bits era?
 
How did you know the system had booted into Recovery?
Instead of the regular software update interface, it has a gray background with a light modal window in the center like you see when you boot into recovery, along with a small status bar in the upper right with language/Wi-Fi selection options (or something like that; I’ve slept since then).
 
chrfr wrote:
"You can just view your list of applications in the System Report application. It even allows you to sort by 32 or 64 bit."

Is there a method to determine whether an app is 32-bit or not by using SOMETHING OTHER THAN System Information?

SI relies on Spotlight to ascertain this info.

I have Spotlight permanently disabled, and have no intention of turning it on again.
So... need another way to find out.
 
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You can just view your list of applications in the System Report application. It even allows you to sort by 32 or 64 bit.
Thank you, very much.

I see there that there are some Apple native apps that I guess they'll be automatically replaced by the new version once I update my Mac from 10.13.3 to 10.13.4.

But there are some other stuff I don't understand. Like a Welcome to Snow Leopard app that should have been gone after I updated to Lion on the first week I bought my Mac, or a quicklookd32 app when there is a quicklook app listed further below that is already 64 bits.
 
chrfr wrote:
"You can just view your list of applications in the System Report application. It even allows you to sort by 32 or 64 bit."

Is there a method to determine whether an app is 32-bit or not by using SOMETHING OTHER THAN System Information?

SI relies on Spotlight to ascertain this info.

I have Spotlight permanently disabled, and have no intention of turning it on again.
So... need another way to find out.

In Activity Monitor you can sort by kind (32/64 bit). You may have to add the column yourself; I’m not sure if it’s there by default. Of course, this only applies to running apps.
 
"In Activity Monitor you can sort by kind (32/64 bit). You may have to add the column yourself; I’m not sure if it’s there by default. Of course, this only applies to running apps."

Thanks for the tip.
I opened Activity Monitor, then clicked "Disk".
It has a column for 64/32 bit.
I could open an application, then check it that way.
Slow, but it works!
 
Apple claims (in a response to a bug report that I raised) that they've fixed an issue in this beta whereby if you changed the account name and/or home directory of a user whilst logged in as that user, it would change an administrator account to a standard account.

Unfortunately I downgraded to Sierra ages ago, so I can't test this myself.
 
Messages in the cloud gone for me, was there yesterday.
They removed it from the final public release. However, I now have Messages showing as taking up iCloud storage space. Consensus is Apple is uploading everyone's Messages to iCloud on a rolling schedule so they are already in place once they finally launch Messages in iCloud.
 
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chrfr wrote:
"You can just view your list of applications in the System Report application. It even allows you to sort by 32 or 64 bit."

Is there a method to determine whether an app is 32-bit or not by using SOMETHING OTHER THAN System Information?

SI relies on Spotlight to ascertain this info.

I have Spotlight permanently disabled, and have no intention of turning it on again.
So... need another way to find out.
You don’t find Spotlight useful? I use it every day.
 
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