Imagine generalizing and then arguing in bad faith like this. I bet you’re a blast at parties.
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You can use Bluetooth to connect to personal devices, such as headphones.
You can use WiFi to connect to in-flight WiFI services.
GPS is allowed - most times, putting a phone in "airplane mode" doesn't disable GPS anyway, and Wi-Fi/Bluetooth can be toggled (back) on.
As for satellite comms - I think that's too new for there to be any regulations. At the moment, the regs tend to ban cellular services only, and Satellite calls are not cellular.
And, of course, this is ignoring the "nobody" part which I assume wasn't meant to be taken literally. The pilots, not surprisingly, use all sorts of comms devices.
Strange, considering people connect to services and communicate from planes in many different ways all the time...even people who are NOT "Iusers with Ithings", but it's clear that your only goal here is to be anti-Apple in pretty much any topic of conversation, so I'm sure you'll be ignoring the part where it's not just "Iusers with Ithings".
That explains why it can’t be send to Android/SMS users - combined with the fact they can be sent when you are offline implies that they hold the message in the iMessage server for later delivery rather than actually sending immediately for later opening, or sending at the scheduled time. Seems like a good compromise at the expense of more iMessage storage room on the servers.
Did they early implementation work when your phone was offline or powered down?
One side is what you can technically do, the other is what you should do.
Just for my knowledge, in which jurisdiction you can use Bluetooth on a flight?
PS: "nobody" didn't include pilots
RCS does support both client-side and server-side message scheduling.
SMS does not support server-side message scheduling, but it can be handled on the client-side.
Now that Apple supports RCS and they could easily support client-side RCS message scheduling for non-iMessages, but it seems that Apple is reluctant to do so.
We are in 2024. I am an iPhone user, however, I cannot control which phone the recipient of a message might have. Still, iPhone users are the ones who are limited by Apple's refusal to support yet another option that has been available for a long time on Android.
SMS does not support server-side message scheduling, but it can be handled on the client-side.
Now that Apple supports RCS and they could easily support client-side RCS message scheduling for non-iMessages, but it seems that Apple is reluctant to do so.
We are in 2024. I am an iPhone user, however, I cannot control which phone the recipient of a message might have. Still, iPhone users are the ones who are limited by Apple's refusal to support yet another option that has been available for a long time on Android.
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My understanding is that it's allowed when in flight, so not during take-off and landing, everywhere. In Europe it's allowed throughout the flight, although this may be airline dependent. I've not flown on one where it isn't allowed, but there are so many airlines that my experience is limited.
In the US, it seems some airlines allow Bluetooth "gate to gate" whereas some don't allow it during take-off and landing.
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On British Airways, they say devices can be used at all times, and Bluetooth/WiFi is also allowed at all times, although the in-flight Wi-Fi is turned off during take-off and landing anyway. They also say that you must disconnect all devices from the provided USB sockets (for charging on short-haul, for charging and to connect to the screens/entertainment on long-haul) when the seatbelt signs are on.
Let’s be clear, since you’re being so pedantic, that the ask around switching off devices centers on people paying attention to the safety instructions. This is at the discretion of each operator as well. It’s not because the signals emitted are gonna interfere with the avionics, which have triple redundancies- that’s also been made clear by the FAA and its counterparts numerous times. Remind me why you went after the OP again?
My old job was adjacent to flight crews, but this shouldn’t be news to anyone that’s been paying attention.
I don’t think I presented a bias. I was speaking for myself in a discussion with the original poster. Thanks for providing your opinion as well.
Thanks for the examples. I don’t think I would use that but I understand others would.
No it was just on a schedule so the phone had to be on and connected. This will likely be the same way.
I never understood this. Most people DND as they should when going to sleep, why does it matter what time it is?
I know in the past the argument was "people dont use DND" but its been many many years that people should know by now to DND. Hell my own parents, who suck with technology and barely use their smart phones know how to put their phone in DND before bed, I have faith other people should be able to as well
For the love of god, when will they add the ability to more easily go to look at old text messages? We're in 2024 and the only thing you can do is search and hope you can remember what to search for, or scroll back a page at a time while it loads each page, for an hour until it crashes.
Why is there no search by date range, calendar view, etc. etc.? Why is there no way to export your message history?
What the hell are they thinking!?
Why is there no search by date range, calendar view, etc. etc.? Why is there no way to export your message history?
What the hell are they thinking!?
Because it’s not a sexy feature, it’s useful just like bug fixes, and Apple does not prioritize that. It runs counter to their growth and services model.
Which part do you not understand? If I am sending someone a message at 11pm that I actually want them to read in the morning (and not if they happen to glance at their phone during the night), I would like to be able to schedule it for the morning. It's a pretty basic concept.
Makes sense to me. I’m not sure why they are saying that when you’ve been pretty clear
This is not true. Google message does support scheduled send (On RCS).
So I did a little test.
iPhone to iPhone .... If you schedule a message, it will go through even if you turn your iPhone completely off. This means the schedule message was sent to the iCloud server.
Android to any phone (RCS or normal text) .... If you schedule a message, it will go through ONLY if your phone remains on (and with cell or wifi signal). If your phone lacks signal or is off, the message will not send according to schedule. But as soon as you turn your phone back on (and/or get signal back), it will automatically send the message.
This probably explains why the "Send Later" feature is an iMessage only feature. Cause even when you have no signal or phone is off, the message will still send.
iPhone to iPhone .... If you schedule a message, it will go through even if you turn your iPhone completely off. This means the schedule message was sent to the iCloud server.
Android to any phone (RCS or normal text) .... If you schedule a message, it will go through ONLY if your phone remains on (and with cell or wifi signal). If your phone lacks signal or is off, the message will not send according to schedule. But as soon as you turn your phone back on (and/or get signal back), it will automatically send the message.
This probably explains why the "Send Later" feature is an iMessage only feature. Cause even when you have no signal or phone is off, the message will still send.
Might explain the color choice of the message being blue. It was not obvious to me but with this said, it could be the case. I dont get the option at all with RCS friends.
“I’m glad they’re finally making the emojis bigger. When you select them, they are larger, but they get smaller when sent with text. This is definitely a plus. The introduction of RCS is exciting too. It’s frustrating when you send a photo to an Android phone and the quality degrades so much that you can’t even tell how bad it looks. What the heck Apple?
However, the AI feature that helps you write or improve text is a bit concerning. It feels like before long, everyone will be sending perfectly crafted texts or emails using AI, and it’ll be hard to tell if the sender actually knows how to write well or not.”
However, the AI feature that helps you write or improve text is a bit concerning. It feels like before long, everyone will be sending perfectly crafted texts or emails using AI, and it’ll be hard to tell if the sender actually knows how to write well or not.”
I believe unironically it’s to provide cover for the fact that so much of what we interact with online is bots. Some call it dead internet theory and it’s absolutely a thing. When everyone comes off as a bot it’s easier to manipulate people
Some people complained that iPhones didn't have RCS and that they were behind Android phones that have had RCS for years.
Then other people have Android phone with RCS... but they don't even use it. And they don't know any other Android users who use RCS either.
Heck... I've heard iPhone users say they will turn off RCS when they get iOS 18 on their iPhone.
It's a weird situation.
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Then other people have Android phone with RCS... but they don't even use it. And they don't know any other Android users who use RCS either.
Heck... I've heard iPhone users say they will turn off RCS when they get iOS 18 on their iPhone.
It's a weird situation.
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Turning off RCS on iPhones makes no sense to me. Why not have the conveniences it affords right? Better than nothing. I think this disproportionately affects older people who aren’t as comfortable with technology- but to hear folks around these parts puff their chests to hell with them. Or something. It’s completely bananas.
I fly quite frequently with many different airlines globally, and the only time I have ever been asked to remove bluetooth headphones is during the safety demonstration.
Increasingly I think airlines realise that their original rules about having digital devices turned off are pointless. If there was any real risk to the safety of the flight, do you think passengers would even be allowed these devices on their person? They would be surrendered at security, switched off and placed in the hold.