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No one has mentioned the Accelerometer now in the specs
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What would this be for? Will Apple reveal Earthquake Detection™ at a later date? You know... once they figure out how to suppress false positives like with bogus Crash Detections from iPhones from skiers and roller coaster riders! 😆
 
What's not changed? How absolutely terrible Siri is.

I wouldn't buy one for that very fact. It isn't a smart speaker if it has anything to do with Siri. Apple downgrading the speakers and wifi just kills all desirability.
Yes, did the letest update fix her at all. She wouldn't recognize our AM sub even with restarting everything multiple time, It worked for the first time after the second restarts but failed again later. And she started saying we had no HK accessories even thought the Home App had them, and they worked there. Got two Google Minis and they play AM better than an Apple product! And two minis and four bulbs on sale were cheaper than just the HM.
 
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Lack of major updates is a win for OG owners (less to be jealous about/feel the need to upgrade) but why would Apple take 2 years and essentially learn no lessons from the first release?

So glad I got mine during the $200 sell out.
 
No one has mentioned the Accelerometer now in the specs
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What would this be for? Will Apple reveal Earthquake Detection™ at a later date? You know... once they figure out how to suppress false positives like with bogus Crash Detections from iPhones from skiers and roller coaster riders! 😆
Didn't the OG one have it as well since it could detect when it was moved to recalibrate the sound?
 
I'll buy it in a heartbeat if it had line-in or accepted bluetooth audio from my Walkman.
For a speaker, I don't trust the purchase if the speaker's gonna become outdated or useless in the future. All the speakers in my home still work after decades
 
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The Mini has the same Wi-Fi chip. It’s possibly used in the new HomePod for better compatibility. That’s a guess but I doubt it’s much of a cost-saving measure and more of an engineering-related reason (this is an Apple Watch SoC).
I think you just hit the nail on the head - it's an SoC... it's using a WiFi card that could be changed out. That makes sense now, still don't like it being .n though.
 
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5 tweeters in each angled upwards is going to throw ten beams around the room.

If the calibration works well on your room, it should be able to make those sounds bounce off walls and ceilings fairly effectively. Reviews on original always said a the surround effect from a pair was good.

What would be good would be adding a pair of minis to the room and enabling more effective rear effects... :)
No simple Spotify streaming for ya…
 
No one has mentioned the Accelerometer now in the specs
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What would this be for? Will Apple reveal Earthquake Detection™ at a later date? You know... once they figure out how to suppress false positives like with bogus Crash Detections from iPhones from skiers and roller coaster riders! 😆
I’m pretty sure old one also has it, as when you move it, it recalibrates its sound
 
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This is actually worse than the original! The worlds wealthiest company with almost unlimited Research and Development money, come up with an uninspiring, rehashed design with less tweeters and microphones.
‘This is all they could envision in a next generation speaker?
I agree with you.
Lesser weight & power consumption too. I don’t see how it’ll sound better or even the same as the old one.
Maybe these ones won’t die in 2 years.
 
I have 6 generation 1 HomePods. I didn’t say THAT product was a complete fail. I said THIS product is a complete fail.
I agree with that, I have two myself and love them. In all fairness all you said was, “This product is a complete fail.” Give me a little leeway on the interpretation of that. 😉

I think I've got an OG on the way out as it intermittently passes gas. I seem to remember reading on here or reddit about a guy that does repairs on them. It's basically the chip for the amp itself is fried and he solders on a new one and can even wash the netting on it so that it looks brand new.

edit: the capacitor....here's the website
Thanks for the link!
 
Seems like a miss, they didn't really make it properly priced or took the other way of making it really full featured.

It's a still an expensive very Apple limited device. Some people will say "I'm extremely OK with that" and you really can't argue with that but so was the first and look how it went.

In the end the worst is probably the feeling nobody at Apple learned anything from the original Homepod.
Precisely my thoughts. Has AAPL learned nothing from the pricing debacle of the OG HomePod? I predict that the only people who will be attracted to this HomePod are the people (like me) who purchased the OG HomePod (albeit on sale for $200 apiece). Oh, wait. WE already have an OG HP and this version adds nothing compelling to encourage us to “upgrade.” SMH AAPL stop drinking that Kool-Aid please!
 
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Maybe Apple are launching it as a retro take on a smart speaker? Less speakers, wifi N, same everything else. If I could request a firmware update enabling compatibility with a facsimile or telex, that would be great, then Siri could alert me to a new message the way that Alexa let’s you know a package has arrived.
 
The 5 tweeters point downwards, even the original ones that had 7 had no virtual Atmos effect, i'm not even sure it supports it does it? If it does it's as bad as the psychoacoustics implementation on Airpods.

Now Dolby Atmos tracks with a proper actual surround system are great.
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bottom of speaker, showing tweeters angled up.

could easily do Atmos like other soundbars that have up facing speakers.
 
The 5 tweeters point downwards, even the original ones that had 7 had no virtual Atmos effect, i'm not even sure it supports it does it? If it does it's as bad as the psychoacoustics implementation on Airpods.

Now Dolby Atmos tracks with a proper actual surround system are great.
And you should check specs futher... the original one handled Atmos after an update.
 
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To all the people thinking MORE speakers is better are absolutely WRONG. More speakers brings more phasing and more audio problems to correct. Why are ALL major studios using mostly TWO way speakers for monitoring?!? Because even 3 way starts to introduce ALOT of problems...Ask any car stereo installer...should I install 17 speakers in my car for the best sound and they will tell you no, install a good set of speakers in your front stage and you will have better sound then a ton of speakers out of phase. So everyone is saying it's a downgrade when we havent heard it! It's quite possible they are using more efficient drivers and they have come up with better sound using less drivers. I will reserve my judgement until I hear it...alreaady ordered my 2nd Gen HomePod. Will do some side by side comparisons to the OG.
 
So the item hasn’t launched yet. No one tested it and yet everyone seems to be an expert on it and how it sucks.
Grow up people, let’s wait for the reviews or better yet buy to to try it before we say how awful it is.
 
I remember a time when it was hard to get Dolby certification on things - since Atmos they give it to anything, phones, laptops, headphones, it's a farce.

It might play it back, it won't sound like surround sound, it will sound *****, you should stick to the stereo versions which wound good (at least on the original homepod, this one might not be as nice sounding)
 
I remember a time when it was hard to get Dolby certification on things - since Atmos they give it to anything, phones, laptops, headphones, it's a farce.

It might play it back, it won't sound like surround sound, it will sound *****, you should stick to the stereo versions which wound good (at least on the original homepod, this one might not be as nice sounding)
Perhaps not everyone is an Audio Engineer...

There are indeed a lot of Atmos approved devices out there that are no way the correct hardware and rely on virtualization tricks. The tricks have certainly improved heaps over the years though with faster processing and better modelling. 30 years ago we had those awful presets for Stadiums or Club 1 :)

I have a Samsung Q990B soundbar. It's certainly better than previous versions that were also Atmos ticked.
But none of theses convenience devices match in-ceiling, high end speaker/amp setups.
For most people though, decent bass and throwing sound around is a big step up without the setup hassle and expense.

The improvement in cheaper sound devices and the tech to make it has come a long way.
The first time I heard a JamBox I couldnt believe the bass from such a small device.
The hamburger (expanding) tiny speakers left 50 year old transistor radios for dead in similar sized packages.

Purists can argue all they like that MIDI music is never in time.
But for most people, this is the music they grew up listening to.
Music has always been about emotion and place and not so much the tech behind it.

When I fire up a 50s or 60s track in Spotify, I'm astounded at the lack of hiss and crackle I knew were on the CDs of the same songs and probably in the master recordings. Most older music has been cleaned up and given a new life. 9 times out of 10 it sounds fresh and modern. Occasionally you still get flat, dull, lifeless cleanup that sounds just dreadful. Like MP3s, Spotify fills a convenience slot for the majority of listeners. I'm betting people listening to YouTube "Atmos" sample videos and think it's the real thing because the video says it is and their soundbars play it back in some approximation of surround. Listening to a real (confirmed on soundbar info button from a demo site) Atmos track can be an awesome experience. But then is takes a good audio mixer of the track to elevate it too. Not all achieve great results or any sense of surround.

It's sad to learn so many people watch Netflix with subtitles on because the mixing is so bad on vocals that they are overpowered by music and effects and you can't understand what's being said.
 
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I had two of the original homepods and found the sound very muffled and bass-y. I got the minis and the sound isn’t great but at least they didn’t cost so much.
 
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