Is this Find My network opt in? Maybe I'm just being overly paranoid, but it's slightly concerning that Apple will use my device's location without my permission. I understand it's anonymous, but I would still expect Apple to make this an opt-in feature, like they do for any other app that wants to use my location.
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But the bike will be unusable to them, the pedals will lock up or something. Or at least, that's what Vanmoof should make their bike capable of doing.
What if I don't want to participate in the Find My network? I don't want my phone's location being used by random strangers to find their stuff with no monetary compensation whatsoever.
Also, that uses up my battery charge with no benefit to myself.
Also, that uses up my battery charge with no benefit to myself.
Okay turn off your iPhone cellular data and have someone hide it and try to use find my with it.
That bike scenario, here in Montréal, oh man, that will put this system to a test... there’s an insane amount of bicycles high jacking, from $100 to $3000 ones. Not cellphones, not cars... bikes, and they can only be properly used here less than 5 months a year because of all the snow.
Indeed there has to be a lot more to it and surely Apple’s engineers have gone through most scenarios...
Seems like a lot of this will work with a healthy amount of good faith in general. At least here in Canada, since I arrived about a decade ago, I’m still surprised how lost cellphones and valuable things appear back... someone finds it and more often than not manages to get ahold of the person that lost the item. Except like mentioned above, bikes, I can’t get over it.
All of this occurred to me immediately too when I read the article. I’m guessing(?) it occurred to somebody at Apple and hopefully they have some cleverness built in to avoid these problems. I sure hope so anyway. 😂
He isn’t talking about the lost mode, he is referring to people getting a notification on their phone saying there is a tracker following them, to protect them.
Yea, I just assumed that this would also work for AirPods when they toggled it on, but it's as useless as it's always been!
Yes, I know. Read what I said again. The safety alerts are dependent on the device being in Lost Mode.
Apple certainly have thought about it in detail, but they are most likely to come down on the side of privacy and safety over vigilante fantasies. Mostly bad headlines will come from allowing users to track other people. Either criminals tracking their victims or criminals doing harm to victims who track them into a dark alley. Career criminals will be wise to these things within a couple of months anyway and alongside your broken bike lock, there’ll be metal shavings from where the thief drilled into the tracker chip.
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Heh, interacting with another human being is rather difficult right now so I'm afraid I can't try this! Why, what's changed?
Have you used it? No.
If you haven't used it, then you don't know how it works, and therefore can't opine that it's "bad software design."
This is exactly how I read it. The assumption is that everyone will be nice and return lost items. Not so for some cretin thief.
I would have thought the option of a stranger turning off a tracker would only be a thing with the likes of Chipolo Tags and not the likes of a bicyle.
It makes not sense to turn it off on a bike. I mean, it's not like a bike is going to be placed in your bag without you knowing about it (Which is the purpose of disable tracking).
I would agree if the only reason for getting the tags was on integrated items like a bike. But I'd like to put one in my car, for example, so that if it's stolen I can have one more way of tracking it. Conversely, if someone steals your bag, they can just disable the tracker.
Preaching to the choir mate. Ideal world situation though. I just wonder if there will be different rules for different devices.
It makes sense that a device specific tracker might be allowed stay always-on. But I do completely understand why a "plantable" type tracker can be turned off as there is too many situations where it could be misused.
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