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It's probably true, but I wouldn't be so sure now that Apple has started putting fake information in the beta files.
If it is true, then Tegra 3 better brace for impact.
 
It has been so easy to predict the specs for upcoming iOS devices lately. Apple is just following Android manufacturers:

* Android gets dual core - Apple follows
* Android gets quad core - Apple follows
* Android tablets get cameras - Apple follows
* Android phones/tablets get better hi-res cameras - Apple follows
* Android phones get bigger screens - Apple follows (expected this year)
* Android phones get NFC - Apple follows (expected this year)
* Android devices get LTE - Apple follows (expected this year)
* Android devices create market for 7" tablets - Apple follows (later this year)

To get an idea of which new features the next Apple phone/tablet will get, one can simply look at the current crop of the best Android devices. The only mystery about Apple designs left is the number and location of buttons (usually one, usually we know where).

One small detail though... it WORKS! Android is one of the flakiest OS's I've ever seen but Apple will make using it an elegant experience instead of a frustrating one he he... They just watch where people go and then make it right. But really, nothing's better than IOS and optimization for their own chips so...
 
One small detail though... it WORKS! Android is one of the flakiest OS's I've ever seen but Apple will make using it an elegant experience instead of a frustrating one he he... They just watch where people go and then make it right. But really, nothing's better than IOS and optimization for their own chips so...

Explain to me what is so flaky about android gingerbread or ics?
 
Explain to me what is so flaky about android gingerbread or ics?

He would, but his android devices don't stay powered long enough to back up his point.

Android is a resource hog, so of course android phones have bigger, faster processors. Android multitasking is power consuming and wasteful. The processors run so hot that they fry the battery. Android phones are customizable, but you often don't start vanilla, so every service on the phone is enabled at the start. Android widgets aren't energy sensitive, and of course that stupid live wallpaper is using resources that could be used elsewhere.

The iPhone 3GS has a single core and is still on the latest version of iOS. The Droid 2 came out at the same time and is no longer given software updates.

The fact that apple comes out with things "after" android manufacturers do is irrelevant, because the iPhone gets it right the first time and does it better than android.
 
My phone could beat up your phone any day of the week!
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Sounds interesting. Quad Core would definitely help if they really plan (as with the rumor) to go retina on the next iPad. That is, if they can come up with a quad core that fits within the power demands, or perhaps uses it in such a way that they can somehow get the performance for less power, using it.
 
Quad core is a must in the next iPad and iPhone, for apple to stay in the game. Looking forward to it!
How is it a must? What software do they absolutely need that only a quad core could do?

Sounds interesting. Quad Core would definitely help if they really plan (as with the rumor) to go retina on the next iPad. That is, if they can come up with a quad core that fits within the power demands, or perhaps uses it in such a way that they can somehow get the performance for less power, using it.

Quad core CPU would have nothing to do with the display. That's all on the GPU.
 
Careful what you wish for. A6/A7 in macbooks soon - all running a rendition of iOS. (aka iLion).

The days of OSX are numbered I fear. :mad:

I'm afraid that you are right. But don't worry, Linux and Windows run great on your current Apple hardware, so at least you won't have to write off the hardware investment as a total loss. Replacing the software will be expensive, but at least it's doable.

No iOS-style digital prison for me in this lifetime. When Apple abandons OS X for this, I'll jump ship.
 
He would, but his android devices don't stay powered long enough to back up his point.

Android is a resource hog, so of course android phones have bigger, faster processors. Android multitasking is power consuming and wasteful. The processors run so hot that they fry the battery. Android phones are customizable, but you often don't start vanilla, so every service on the phone is enabled at the start. Android widgets aren't energy sensitive, and of course that stupid live wallpaper is using resources that could be used elsewhere.

The iPhone 3GS has a single core and is still on the latest version of iOS. The Droid 2 came out at the same time and is no longer given software updates.

The fact that apple comes out with things "after" android manufacturers do is irrelevant, because the iPhone gets it right the first time and does it better than android.


And I'm sure that you learned all of this through first hand experience by using Android and iOS phones on a daily basis over an extended period of time.

No, of course you don't. Your judgment would be completely different if you actually had.

If your iPhone/iPod Touch could run live wallpapers, I'm pretty sure you'd have one just to show off how awesome your gadget is. Since your castrated operating system doesn't support widgets and live wallpapers, of course, by definition, they have to be "stupid".

I also don't know where Android supposedly is a resource hog. My Galaxy S2 runs circles around the iPhone 4S and it never "fries" the battery. And it still has more features than the iPhone 4S - and most of the OS features that Apple now introduced as "innovations" in iOS 5 have been in Android since, well, ever. Including voice assistants.

Maybe the 3Gs still runs the latest iOS, but it's actually a suboptimal experience. Not as bad when iOS 4 was released for the 3G, but it's also not a real joy to use iOS 5 on that old 3Gs hardware anymore. And talking about software support in general -- my iPhone 3G was only over six months old when Apple decided to drop the software support for it. Sure, the 3G had already been on the market for quite a while when I purchased mine, but nevertheless I felt betrayed by Apple. I also felt betrayed by them when I had to pay for every single iOS update for my first generation iPod Touch. They only changed that AFTER I had already sold my iPod Touch.

But the most important thing speaking FOR Android and AGAINST iOS is the fact that you CAN customize the Android OS. It provides freedom. The one thing that you will NEVER get from Apple, and that alone is the ultimate killer argument for me to never buy an iOS-based product anymore.
 
It has been so easy to predict the specs for upcoming iOS devices lately. Apple is just following Android manufacturers:

* Android gets dual core - Apple follows
* Android gets quad core - Apple follows
* Android tablets get cameras - Apple follows
* Android phones/tablets get better hi-res cameras - Apple follows
* Android phones get bigger screens - Apple follows (expected this year)
* Android phones get NFC - Apple follows (expected this year)
* Android devices get LTE - Apple follows (expected this year)
* Android devices create market for 7" tablets - Apple follows (later this year)

To get an idea of which new features the next Apple phone/tablet will get, one can simply look at the current crop of the best Android devices. The only mystery about Apple designs left is the number and location of buttons (usually one, usually we know where).

Android is software. Everything you mention is hardware. You're placing Apple's hardware up against almost every other device manufacturer, and any time a company pushes out some hardware before Apple (no matter how poorly packaged) "Android" wins! Amazing!
 
And I'm sure that you learned all of this through first hand experience by using Android and iOS phones on a daily basis over an extended period of time.

No, of course you don't. Your judgment would be completely different if you actually had.

If your iPhone/iPod Touch could run live wallpapers, I'm pretty sure you'd have one just to show off how awesome your gadget is. Since your castrated operating system doesn't support widgets and live wallpapers, of course, by definition, they have to be "stupid".

I also don't know where Android supposedly is a resource hog. My Galaxy S2 runs circles around the iPhone 4S and it never "fries" the battery. And it still has more features than the iPhone 4S - and most of the OS features that Apple now introduced as "innovations" in iOS 5 have been in Android since, well, ever. Including voice assistants.

Maybe the 3Gs still runs the latest iOS, but it's actually a suboptimal experience. Not as bad when iOS 4 was released for the 3G, but it's also not a real joy to use iOS 5 on that old 3Gs hardware anymore. And talking about software support in general -- my iPhone 3G was only over six months old when Apple decided to drop the software support for it. Sure, the 3G had already been on the market for quite a while when I purchased mine, but nevertheless I felt betrayed by Apple. I also felt betrayed by them when I had to pay for every single iOS update for my first generation iPod Touch. They only changed that AFTER I had already sold my iPod Touch.

But the most important thing speaking FOR Android and AGAINST iOS is the fact that you CAN customize the Android OS. It provides freedom. The one thing that you will NEVER get from Apple, and that alone is the ultimate killer argument for me to never buy an iOS-based product anymore.

A good friend of mine has a Galaxy S2. My 4S

- Gets better battery life time (even with the 4S' crappy battery life time)
- Makes better pictures and movies
- Syncs with my iMac-MBA-iPad calender/mail/address book faster through iCloud than his S2 does with his Google stuff
- Has a far far better browsing experience. Pages just load faster and scrolls like butter. He can have his flash.
- can download software that I know is verified by Apple, rather than the unverified spam junk that is on Android store.

But you go ahead and customize your phone OS until you weigh about an ounce. Meantime, I'll enjoy verified great software while watching beautiful photos and movies on my Macs that are neatlessly and flawlessly synced across my iCloud devices, as are my notes-calenders-email accounts-documents and so on.
 
But the most important thing speaking FOR Android and AGAINST iOS is the fact that you CAN customize the Android OS. It provides freedom. The one thing that you will NEVER get from Apple, and that alone is the ultimate killer argument for me to never buy an iOS-based product anymore.

Jailbreaking proves freedom as well. Apple provides a great 'it just works' OS. For the average Joe, he doesn't NEED to jailbreak. But if you really want 'live wallpapers' (wow, 'cos that's REALLY necessary, huh?) there are jailbreak tweaks for that. Want an iPhone looking like an Android (that's a visual downgrade, but okay)? Install Dreamboard and away you go.

You can say 'Apple doesn't provide freedom and won't EVER'...well, they focus more on security and usability than customization. It's up to the user to decide if they want to customize their iDevice by jailbreaking. And that's a whole new world.
 
A good friend of mine has a Galaxy S2. My 4S

- Gets better battery life time (even with the 4S' crappy battery life time)
- Makes better pictures and movies
- Syncs with my iMac-MBA-iPad calender/mail/address book faster through iCloud than his S2 does with his Google stuff
- Has a far far better browsing experience. Pages just load faster and scrolls like butter. He can have his flash.
- can download software that I know is verified by Apple, rather than the unverified spam junk that is on Android store.

But you go ahead and customize your phone OS until you weigh about an ounce. Meantime, I'll enjoy verified great software while watching beautiful photos and movies on my Macs that are neatlessly and flawlessly synced across my iCloud devices, as are my notes-calenders-email accounts-documents and so on.

That's your friend's phone. Have you used both considerably? I sure did (iPad and Galaxy S II).

Both of my devices' browsers scroll like butter, however. My friend has a 4S and he said it's boring. That's what he thought and I've never used a 4S so I have no say on that.

As for unverified junk, what kind of apps did he download? I have my fair share on useless App Store apps.
 
I really want to buy an iPad 3 with a nice retina display, better cameras etc. But only if the CPU/GPU is faster than in the iPad 2.
It doesn't need to be A6 powered. A speedier A5 based CPU/GPU system would be fine as well.
 
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How is it a must? What software do they absolutely need that only a quad core could do?



Quad core CPU would have nothing to do with the display. That's all on the GPU.

I would be curious to know if the GPUs are CPU limited. It seems like Apple is the only manufacturer to have a multicore GPU (not in the strict sense, but you should get the point).
 
Honestly, it seems like more wasted heat and energy to me. What is the iPhone 4S limited to right now because of the dual core? If their going to put a quad core in it, there better be a killer feature that requires it.
I think what Apple is going to eventually do is make the iPhone/iPod touch be able to run desktop apps when they are in a dock that connects to a monitor using Thunderbolt.
 
Quad core is a must in the next iPad and iPhone, for apple to stay in the game. Looking forward to it!

Please explain! Why its a must ? I would agree a little in iPad's case because of a bigger display thus more pixels to render but iPhone ? Come on...they even underclock A5 in iPhone 4S..

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I think what Apple is going to eventually do is make the iPhone/iPod touch be able to run desktop apps when they are in a dock that connects to a monitor using Thunderbolt.

lol not possible in these days dude, the Ax chips are working a bit differently than CPU chips thus cant do the tasks expected from Computer the same way...they basically would not understand those "instructions"...

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I really want to buy an iPad 3 with a nice retina display, better cameras etc. But only if the CPU/GPU is faster than in the iPad 2.
It doesn't need to be A6 powered. A speedier A5 based CPU/GPU system would be fine as well.

I would not be expecting better A5 chip dude, they will come up with A6 IMHO.
 
Please explain! Why its a must ? I would agree a little in iPad's case because of a bigger display thus more pixels to render but iPhone ? Come on...they even underclock A5 in iPhone 4S..


to stay competitive with other phones. so far, both the iPhone and the iPad are only updated once a year. this year, there will be several phones and tablets that are quad core. apple needs to have quad cores chips also, so they can continue to lead the way
 
He would, but his android devices don't stay powered long enough to back up his point.

Android is a resource hog, so of course android phones have bigger, faster processors. Android multitasking is power consuming and wasteful. The processors run so hot that they fry the battery. Android phones are customizable, but you often don't start vanilla, so every service on the phone is enabled at the start. Android widgets aren't energy sensitive, and of course that stupid live wallpaper is using resources that could be used elsewhere.

The iPhone 3GS has a single core and is still on the latest version of iOS. The Droid 2 came out at the same time and is no longer given software updates.

The fact that apple comes out with things "after" android manufacturers do is irrelevant, because the iPhone gets it right the first time and does it better than android.

Totally agree.
 
It has been so easy to predict the specs for upcoming iOS devices lately. Apple is just following Android manufacturers:

* Android gets dual core - Apple follows
* Android gets quad core - Apple follows
* Android tablets get cameras - Apple follows
* Android phones/tablets get better hi-res cameras - Apple follows
* Android phones get bigger screens - Apple follows (expected this year)
* Android phones get NFC - Apple follows (expected this year)
* Android devices get LTE - Apple follows (expected this year)
* Android devices create market for 7" tablets - Apple follows (later this year)

To get an idea of which new features the next Apple phone/tablet will get, one can simply look at the current crop of the best Android devices. The only mystery about Apple designs left is the number and location of buttons (usually one, usually we know where).

So desperate ...
 
And Apple continues to play follow the mobile industry leader (Samsung). Keep it up Apple, you may eventually catch up.

You mean Apple "follows" Samsung by copying their products? Oh, wait...

If Samsung is the "mobile industry leader", why are they following Apple's lead in design? Why aren't they the ones who innovate. Why is it just Google and Apple?
 
It has been so easy to predict the specs for upcoming iOS devices lately. Apple is just following Android manufacturers:

* Android gets dual core - Apple follows
* Android gets quad core - Apple follows
* Android tablets get cameras - Apple follows
* Android phones/tablets get better hi-res cameras - Apple follows
* Android phones get bigger screens - Apple follows (expected this year)
* Android phones get NFC - Apple follows (expected this year)
* Android devices get LTE - Apple follows (expected this year)
* Android devices create market for 7" tablets - Apple follows (later this year)

To get an idea of which new features the next Apple phone/tablet will get, one can simply look at the current crop of the best Android devices. The only mystery about Apple designs left is the number and location of buttons (usually one, usually we know where).

Careful with the crack, mate ;)
 
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