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PedroDias

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Today I updated an app which one of the updates stated "compatibility with bigger iPhone 5S screen"

For the ones who understand Portuguese:
 

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TheAppleFairy

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The Clinton Archipelago unfortunately
Why would the developer for that app know about a bigger screen, but not other developers?

From what I understand (I am not a developer, so I can't confirm this), the developer can put what they want there even after the app is approved.

Joke?
 

Troneas

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Oct 26, 2011
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At the alternatives section.
Why would the developer for that app know about a bigger screen, but not other developers?

From what I understand (I am not a developer, so I can't confirm this), the developer can put what they want there even after the app is approved.

Joke?


maybe the rest of the developers haven't yet bothered to update their apps for the "bigger" screen yet. or at least most of them haven't.

and you are right - they can write whatever they want in their update notes but why state specifically "for the bigger iphone 5S screen"? why not write: "compatible with iOS 7" instead?
 

C DM

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maybe the rest of the developers haven't yet bothered to update their apps for the "bigger" screen yet. or at least most of them haven't.

and you are right - they can write whatever they want in their update notes but why state specifically "for the bigger iphone 5S screen"? why not write: "compatible with iOS 7" instead?
Because developers write all kinds of stuff in their release notes and it doesn't really have to be factual or anything like that, just whatever they feel like writing really.
 

Menge

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The developer is full of crap. That app is made by a blog which specializes in iPhone news. It's pure speculation and linkbait.
 

blerns3

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I wish I could believe that this random developer had inside info, I really wish I could.
 

Solomani

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There may well be a bigger screen but developers don't know about it yet.

Shouldn't Apple give the developers advanced warning if the upcoming iPhone will have a larger screen? You know... the advanced warning would help the Devs update and re-write their apps to take advantage of the bigger screen. Of course if Apple had to give the devs advanced notice, the element of "surprise" is gone, since there will then be hundreds of leaks regarding a larger screen.

What is the point of Apple announcing a newer larger screen if (at the time it ships) none of the apps take advantage of the larger screen size?
 

blerns3

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Oct 2, 2012
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Shouldn't Apple give the developers advanced warning if the upcoming iPhone will have a larger screen? You know... the advanced warning would help the Devs update and re-write their apps to take advantage of the bigger screen. Of course if Apple had to give the devs advanced notice, the element of "surprise" is gone, since there will then be hundreds of leaks regarding a larger screen.

What is the point of Apple announcing a newer larger screen if (at the time it ships) none of the apps take advantage of the larger screen size?

Well technically there is 10 days between the keynote and release day. However that's a good point as 10 days is not very long for them. But look at what happened with the iPhone 5. Most apps weren't "optimized for iPhone 5" for weeks and some months after the release. A lot still aren't.
 

KenAFSPC

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Shouldn't Apple give the developers advanced warning if the upcoming iPhone will have a larger screen? You know... the advanced warning would help the Devs update and re-write their apps to take advantage of the bigger screen. Of course if Apple had to give the devs advanced notice, the element of "surprise" is gone, since there will then be hundreds of leaks regarding a larger screen.

What is the point of Apple announcing a newer larger screen if (at the time it ships) none of the apps take advantage of the larger screen size?
The situation is a bit different from when Apple moved from 3.5" to 4.0". In IOS7, Apple eliminated most of the bitmap-based UI elements (e.g., buttons) that don't look good when scaled. Apple is actively encouraging developers to do the same with their IOS7 apps. Under the new IOS guidelines, developers are to use text/symbol based UI elements that scale well to different resolutions.

With IOS7, Apple has also implemented automatic scaling of Retina UI resources to the full size of a particular device. Many believe this is being done in preparation for a larger screen iPhone next year, but Apple could very well surprise us with a 4.2-4.3" screen (in the same aspect ratio) on the 10th. Apple has made it a point to keep the front exterior of the next iPhone hidden, which seems unnecessary for a design that is supposedly identical to the IP5. The back of the next iPhone has leaked, so we know the display can't be larger than 4.3".
 

blerns3

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The situation is a bit different from when Apple moved from 3.5" to 4.0". In IOS7, Apple eliminated most of the bitmap-based UI elements (e.g., buttons) that don't look good when scaled. Apple is activity encouraging developers to do the same with their IOS7 apps. Under the new IOS guidelines, developers are to use text/symbol based UI elements that scale well to different resolutions.

With IOS7, Apple has also implemented automatic scaling of Retina UI resources to the full size of a particular device. Many believe this is being done in preparation for a larger screen iPhone next year, but Apple could very well surprise us with a 4.2-4.3" screen (in the same aspect ratio) on the 10th. Apple has made it a point to keep the front exterior of the next iPhone hidden, which seems unnecessary for a design that is supposedly identical to the IP5.

Let's just say that's true. That means the phone wouldn't actually be larger, but just the screen, right? Almost just like stretching the screen out further on the same sized hardware.

I don't actually think this will happen, but just curious if that's what you mean.
 

KenAFSPC

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Let's just say that's true. That means the phone wouldn't actually be larger, but just the screen, right? Almost just like stretching the screen out further on the same sized hardware.

I don't actually think this will happen, but just curious if that's what you mean.
Yes. The back of the next iPhone has leaked, so we know that the front display can't be larger than 4.3". For optimal scaling of existing apps, Apple would have to stick with the same 16x9 aspect ratio.

Supposedly, the original preproduction iPhone 5 had close to a 4.3" screen but it was nix'd due to quality/production/battery issues.
 

Makaveliarts

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First off, I feel that a 5 inch screen is unnecessary, and would make the iphone take up too much pocket space, especially if you use a case. I have been using a 4S for two years and I feel it is the perfect size for my hand, with my case on, and doesn't take up too much pocket space. I've used a few of my friends iPhone 5's, with no case on though, and the extra screen length added to the phone didn't seem that noticeable.

So, I'd have to say a 4.3 inch screen, accomplished through removing Bezel(?) so the phone stays the same length, would be great, I am against a longer iPhone.


I really just hope it weighs more than the 5. I would rather my phone feel heavier than lighter, and the 5 was pretty freaking light.
 

deuxani

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This app probably didn't have iPhone 5 support yet and he just updated his app to support the larger iPhone 5 screen and thought "let's just write iPhone 5S as that's the most current phone everybody's talking about and will be presented next week" :D
 

KenAFSPC

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A bigger screen i not going to happen on the 5.

no way!
A bigger screen isn't coming to the iPhone 5 or the new low-end iPhone 5C. However, Apple has something else up its sleeve for the 10th. I think you may be pleasantly surprised.

This app probably didn't have iPhone 5 support yet and he just updated his app to support the larger iPhone 5 screen and thought "let's just write iPhone 5S as that's the most current phone everybody's talking about and will be presented next week" :D
The developer is correct in that his update enables his app to support a larger, higher resolution screen.

As noted above, with IOS7, Apple eliminated most of the bitmap-based UI elements (e.g., buttons) that don't look good when scaled. Apple is actively encouraging developers to do the same with their IOS7 apps. Under the new IOS guidelines, developers are to use text/symbol based UI elements that scale well to different resolutions, to support future devices with higher resolution screens. That is exactly what this developer did.
 
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