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Exactly one month until Montevina is released!

illidian said:
As m1stake pointed out, DDR3 currently offers very little improvement over DDR2. In addition, prices are roughly four times higher for DDR3 RAM compared to DDR2 on Crucial's website. It's easy to pop 4GB into your MacBook for $100, but for $400? :rolleyes:
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Like I said, DDR3 will provide some improvement. I never said it would double your processing power, nor did I comment on price.
 
I'm planning on the upgrades to coincide with the "back to school" discounts NLT August '08, that way I can get my paws on the top of the line MBA, iPod Touch and a new printer to go with my other (3) "still in box printers." :p
 
Is the Macbook going to be receiving Montevina the same time as the MBP then?
I would have thought Montevina would first be introduced in the MBP then 6 months or so down the line will be put into the MB.
As for the next MB update I would imagine it will just be a minor speeds bump, I hope I am wrong but that's what I am guessing.
 
starman0147 said:
Is the Macbook going to be receiving Montevina the same time as the MBP then?
I would have thought Montevina would first be introduced in the MBP then 6 months or so down the line will be put into the MB.
As for the next MB update I would imagine it will just be a minor speeds bump, I hope I am wrong but that's what I am guessing.
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Why would Apple wait six months to implement new technology in the MacBooks? :confused:

While the MacBooks and MacBooks Pro models may be released at the same time, I wouldn't be too surprised if they were a month or so apart. But any more than a couple months I can't imagine happening (as it hasn't in the past).
 
Phillyzero said:
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Lastly, like I've been saying I also don't expect ANY case refresh or redesign for a Montevina release because:

1. Anything like a redesign for a 'Macbook 2.0' would require an event, a keynote or something, not just a drop in the middle of nowhere.
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IIRC the Macbook 1.0 just appeared on the Apple website one day (although there was feverish speculation in the run up to launch)
 
illidian said:
The graphics will be substantially better. The x4500 (without finalized drivers) is performing about twice as well as the current x3100 in benchmark tests.
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When you say the graphics will be substantially better do you mean an upgrade to Montevina means an upgrade in built in graphics? I've been lurking on this site for the last couple of months (no posts since I was deployed up until 2 weeks ago) and plan on making the Macbook my first honest to god Mac purchase. At this point I'm sort of holding out to see if Montevina means an upgrade.

I could pull the trigger now but I figure July 14th isn't that far away so why not wait. I ask about the graphics because even though I don't consider myself a huge ::coughs:: PC gamer I do play enjoy some WoW every now and again, and would definitely buy Spore when it comes out. I'm just curious if a Macbook upgrade to Montevina would mean improved game performance.

Apologies if it feels like I'm hijacking the thread... just seemed like the best place to ask without starting another "zomg should I buyz now?!?" thread.
 
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illidian said:
nick9191 said:
Why bother, theres not exactly anything at this point that they can or will put in to it to make a noticeable difference. Its just a new logic board, meaning if you wanted to run good old tiger, tough luck. No Blu Ray, not that I care about that. 2gb of RAM is still the norm, the hard drive sizes are still the norm, the graphics are still the norm considering the thickness.

I hope they leave it till January, and Nehalem, don't fix it if it aint broken.
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The graphics will be substantially better. The x4500 (without finalized drivers) is performing about twice as well as the current x3100 in benchmark tests.
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do you have a link to x4500 benchmarks? I'm skeptical because the x3100 was touted as much better than the gma950, but apple has done such a bad job with drivers that it's hardly better at all.
 
SchneiderMan said:
macworld 2009
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Macworld is too far away from the release from this new chip. Earlier... In fact August will mark 6 months since an update so I'm wondering how soon it will be.

I think it's important to note that Apple most likely is ready to release the Macbooks ASAP, they were expected to release in June but thanks to Intel they got delayed. I'm still expecting one in July just because it seems like they have everything for the revision.
 
How many people think that Apple will use LEDs in this next update?
I sure hope so.
 
SFStateStudent said:
I'm planning on the upgrades to coincide with the "back to school" discounts NLT August '08, that way I can get my paws on the top of the line MBA, iPod Touch and a new printer to go with my other (3) "still in box printers." :p
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The printer promo only applies for purchase dates 4/22/08 - 7/21/08.
 
illidian said:
Why would Apple wait six months to implement new technology in the MacBooks? :confused:

While the MacBooks and MacBooks Pro models may be released at the same time, I wouldn't be too surprised if they were a month or so apart. But any more than a couple months I can't imagine happening (as it hasn't in the past).
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June 05 2007, Macbook Pro updated to Santa Rosa.

November 01 2007, Macbook updated to Santa Rosa.
 
illidian said:
As m1stake pointed out, DDR3 currently offers very little improvement over DDR2. In addition, prices are roughly four times higher for DDR3 RAM compared to DDR2 on Crucial's website. It's easy to pop 4GB into your MacBook for $100, but for $400? :rolleyes:
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The biggest savings is in power. At the same speed DDR3 require less power then DDR2. In a notebook that also translates to less heat.
 
QCassidy352 said:
do you have a link to x4500 benchmarks? I'm skeptical because the x3100 was touted as much better than the gma950, but apple has done such a bad job with drivers that it's hardly better at all.
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Just google them - x4500 vs x3100 benchmark - and you'll get plenty more results in five seconds than I could list.

If you care about performance in games, and complaining about drivers, why not use BootCamp and use the Windows drivers that are vastly superior? The x3100 also had significantly more VRAM available while in Windows, I'm not sure how the x4500 addresses that.

diamond.g said:
The biggest savings is in power. At the same speed DDR3 require less power then DDR2. In a notebook that also translates to less heat.
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Couldn't Apple utilize lower speed DDR2 RAM for the same effect? It's just that DDR3 RAM is so cost prohibitive right now, I'm not sure it's a good move.
 
illidian said:
Couldn't Apple utilize lower speed DDR2 RAM for the same effect? It's just that DDR3 RAM is so cost prohibitive right now, I'm not sure it's a good move.
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Slower DDR2 would hurt system bandwidth. If no one uses the ram then how are prices supposed to come down? Besides it would make the transistion to Nehalem much easier as it will use DDR3.

If anything the Mac Pro guys are gonna be hurt the most. Intel will be using regular ECC DDR3 (not FB-DIMM) like what AMD uses in the workstation boards. It looks like you need a 4-way system to get FB-DIMMs. (When moving to Nehalem).
 
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