Ugh Why should my watch not get the watchOS 4 features if my watch’s hardware is practically identical to Apple Watch Series 1 except for the faster processor. Ridiculous!
You just answered your own question.
Ugh Why should my watch not get the watchOS 4 features if my watch’s hardware is practically identical to Apple Watch Series 1 except for the faster processor. Ridiculous!
No. This is Apple doing what it does best - practicing planned obsolescence of it's products.The definition of entitlement. No, removing a watch face will not magically grant your outdated processor the ability to do stuff the third-generation can do.
Still love my steel series 0.
Ugh Apple, seriously? I’m an owner of the stainless steel 1st gen Apple Watch and I’m not looking for an upgrade yet since it’s in a pretty good condition. Why should my watch not get the watchOS 4 features if my watch’s hardware is practically identical to Apple Watch Series 1 except for the faster processor. Ridiculous!
I would rather have Apple remove other useless features like ToyStory Watch faces and let me use a feature that I was actually looking forward to.
Except by using Cardiogram I can get resting heart rate with no issue. I smell Apple just took the feature to make people upgrade. Also nowhere I can read that Apple changed the actual hrm hardware between S0 and S1...Most likely less capable heart rate sensor is the culprit.
Under 'Elevated Heart Rate' Notifications' in the Health app on my iPhone, 'Show All Sources' has no data.
I've got the watch Elevated Heart Rate set to 100 BPM, and the only trigger and notifications come from my Heart Watch app. Not sure if there is a glitch..
And the hardware limitation is?
Happy to hear the reason . And we can debate that
Let's jump in and defend ....Smh
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How does CPU affect HR? Let the iPhone do the number for series one, its connected all the time and u will need legacy data for calculations .
Or do you thin all the data is stored on the AW and it's constantly calculating your HR patterns ?
The series 1 is no slouch, let's be honest. It seems to do fine with all the other fitness stuff. I'm not saying not not CPU, though I have doubts
Your wrong. Calculating the resting HR dos not tax the CPU ans more than showing that heart rate over the day graph. The original watches were left out be purpose Not by capability. If health would be a big Point for apple they would not have crippled the S0.
What?
The Watch still has to control the HR sensor logic and constantly shuffle HR to the iPhone. Considering the 0 has a single core, once you add all these little things up it could result in too high processor load.
The dual core processor is likely what allows for the sustained work load of HR measurements.
Except by using Cardiogram I can get resting heart rate with no issue. I smell Apple just took the feature to make people upgrade. Also nowhere I can read that Apple changed the actual hrm hardware between S0 and S1...
Just tried out the series 3 models at the local Apple Store, they're really fast.Even if I want to upgrade my watch, I don't have any choice now. There are only 4 aluminium models to buy now in my country.
EXACTLY! The Watch CPU still has to run the HR sensor, collect the data and sent the data to the phone. While that may not seem like much it is a lot more work doing it constantly than just once every 10 mins.
Even in batches that is still MUCH more data that has to be collected, and transferred.
Just to be clear we are talking about the 'Series 0'
I am not saying it is not capable. It is 100% capable of doing this but it would take a much much larger battery hit than the Series 1 onwards.
What I am saying is the dual core processors are able to do much more than a single core processor while using much less battery. So the sustained load through the day of collecting and transferring data is less of a hit to the battery on a dual core than a single core processor.
EDIT: Just to be clearer. What we are talking about is the ability to do more frequent HR measurements which is turn allows for more accurate measurements of other data point such as resting heart rate.
As long as devs can make apps that do the same, I’m ok with that.
I have an original 42mm SS and unfortunately that feature went a long time ago. You seem to have had it longer than most. My vanish with 4.1.Is not about new features but something that I already had it. Heart rate alert, it’s gone. I have atrial fibrillation and that helped me a lot, specially while sleeping, alerting me so I’d quick take my medicine and everything is fine. Found out last night on the worst way possible. Like someone said, I didn’t need Toy Story face and other “features” like that when I had something so important that was taken away from me. I have a stainless steel 42, bought it when was launched but got very sad about this, thinking about Xiomi Amazfit bit or something else but won’t be forced to upgrade to a new Apple Watch just because they want. Ridiculous.
I have an original 42mm SS and unfortunately that feature went a long time ago. You seem to have had it longer than most. My vanish with 4.1.
I actually found it annoying as well.
I managed to buy an Amazfit Bip with allows HR readings every 1 or 10 min (you can choose), shows resting HR, links to healthkit and is updated quite regularly with new features. Battery life is anything from 30-45 days on a single charge (I charged mine twice since Jan). It has GPS and barometer and sleep tracking natively. Super light too. I cannot recommend it high enough to be honest. Less than £47 now.
https://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_1126414.html?wid=4&lkid=13732719
I wish Apple would add sleep tracking to the Apple Watch. Maybe June we will find out!or not!
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I tried all of them and none are as accurate as the Mi-band I had before which was about £6. The Amazfit Bip is even better. The every 1 min heart rate must help.Several sleep programs in App Store. They use analytics on the data from the Apple Watch. I use AutoSleep that works for me. Allows personal tuning of the apps sleep calculations and integrates nicely with Apple Health App. Might give it a try.
Is not about new features but something that I already had it. Heart rate alert, it’s gone. I have atrial fibrillation and that helped me a lot, specially while sleeping, alerting me so I’d quick take my medicine and everything is fine. Found out last night on the worst way possible. Like someone said, I didn’t need Toy Story face and other “features” like that when I had something so important that was taken away from me. I have a stainless steel 42, bought it when was launched but got very sad about this, thinking about Xiomi Amazfit bit or something else but won’t be forced to upgrade to a new Apple Watch just because they want. Ridiculous.
It's another one of those features that was actually there on my watch till 4.1 then it went. Same for HR being recorded during movement, walk, running, etc. Then it just disappeared.Just FYI the heart alerts were never available to the Series 0 models except maybe in Betas.
Edit: Link, before the “I totally had it before” post: https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/21/16347244/apple-watch-os-4-heart-rate-series-original