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I don't have first hand business use experience yet, but as soon as my 3G iPad arrives I plan on putting it into use immediately. I own an advertising and public relations agency, so my time is split between overseeing projects and visiting clients / prospects. When I'm visiting clients, I basically just use Keynote on my MacBook Pro (I put everything in slide format to present, easier than messing around with tons of PDFs). So I plan on using the iPad to lighten my load.

As an added bonus, traveling into New York causes downtime (I often arrive extra early and hang out at a Star Bucks doing e-mail on my laptop via WiFi or I use my iPhone while on the train). With the 3G iPad, I'll be able to broaden my choice of waiting locations and can do e-mail from my iPad.
 
It's an interesting topic, for those of us who want the cool device, but would also like to see some benefit from it in the work place. I went into it with exactly that attitude. I decided I would get the iPad because I wanted it first. I'm not going to even try to justify getting it for work related stuff, but if I can use it that way, so much the better.

I have found that it is helping me in ways I did not expect. First of all, our company has a very robust Cisco Wireless Network, which requires user and domain authentication to log in and broadcasts using an invisible SSID. Even with all that, I was able to connect to the wireless network using my iPad. I have to set all the right options and enter my username and password in the appropriate places, and I had to know the exact spelling of the invisible SSID, but it worked. I did not expect this. No laptop can do this without the appropriate wireless client installed and running from our IT departement. Yet the iPad connecting painlessly without any external help.

I have also found the Keynote app pretty useful with powerpoint. My job requires me each month to pull together data from multiple powerpoint decks and then use that as content in a final single version. In the past, this has me running up to six powerpoints on my PC and navigating between them, constantly being confused which one I am clicking on because the taskbar at the bottom abbreviates the titles too much and even with dual monitors, powerpoint won't let you look at two separate presentations at the same time on separate monitors. So now I send them all to my iPad, except the one I am working on. Keynote does a really nice job of organizing the presentations stacking them into easy to find "piles", and I can quickly navigate between them, finding the information I'm looking for, all the while having another one open on my PC which I can then edit.

I'm doing other things too like navigating to our corporate intranet, so that I can look up information while working on something else on my PC. It's quickly becoming a handy complimentary tool to things I do on a daily basis. I did not expect this. I brought it into the office the first day I had it to show it off, to be honest. But now I'm bringing it because I actually use it and would miss it if I didn't have it there.

Probably what a describe is a bit trivial or basic, but I honestly think it's value in the workplace is nowhere close to fully known yet. It's brand new technology. It represents a different way to be productive. It will take some time to figure all this out, but I am convinced it will have value, significant value for me at least at work.
 
It's an interesting topic, for those of us who want the cool device, but would also like to see some benefit from it in the work place. I went into it with exactly that attitude. I decided I would get the iPad because I wanted it first. I'm not going to even try to justify getting it for work related stuff, but if I can use it that way, so much the better.

I have found that it is helping me in ways I did not expect. First of all, our company has a very robust Cisco Wireless Network, which requires user and domain authentication to log in and broadcasts using an invisible SSID. Even with all that, I was able to connect to the wireless network using my iPad. I have to set all the right options and enter my username and password in the appropriate places, and I had to know the exact spelling of the invisible SSID, but it worked. I did not expect this. No laptop can do this without the appropriate wireless client installed and running from our IT departement. Yet the iPad connecting painlessly without any external help.

I have also found the Keynote app pretty useful with powerpoint. My job requires me each month to pull together data from multiple powerpoint decks and then use that as content in a final single version. In the past, this has me running up to six powerpoints on my PC and navigating between them, constantly being confused which one I am clicking on because the taskbar at the bottom abbreviates the titles too much and even with dual monitors, powerpoint won't let you look at two separate presentations at the same time on separate monitors. So now I send them all to my iPad, except the one I am working on. Keynote does a really nice job of organizing the presentations stacking them into easy to find "piles", and I can quickly navigate between them, finding the information I'm looking for, all the while having another one open on my PC which I can then edit.

I'm doing other things too like navigating to our corporate intranet, so that I can look up information while working on something else on my PC. It's quickly becoming a handy complimentary tool to things I do on a daily basis. I did not expect this. I brought it into the office the first day I had it to show it off, to be honest. But now I'm bringing it because I actually use it and would miss it if I didn't have it there.

Probably what a describe is a bit trivial or basic, but I honestly think it's value in the workplace is nowhere close to fully known yet. It's brand new technology. It represents a different way to be productive. It will take some time to figure all this out, but I am convinced it will have value, significant value for me at least at work.

It does sounds as stretch ;) Using iPad for editing multiple documents is easier than using a PC with multiple monitors? Very hard to believe. I am sure deep inside you do not believe it either.
 
It's an interesting topic, for those of us who want the cool device, but would also like to see some benefit from it in the work place. I went into it with exactly that attitude. I decided I would get the iPad because I wanted it first. I'm not going to even try to justify getting it for work related stuff, but if I can use it that way, so much the better.

I have found that it is helping me in ways I did not expect.

Great post. Thanks for sharing.
 
The iWork suite is beautiful to use (despite the limited functionality in places) but the biggest problem I find is that if I start a new doc, I can't rename it and all my email attachments end up with a generic name, or 'blank'. I

When you open up pages, or whatever and you are in the fileviewer. Before loading the document, press and hold on the title, then you can edit it.
 
Do you or anyone here on the boards know if the SDK prohibits access to the actual file system for the purposes in which we all agree are needed? As you all know, they have just announced that in 4.0 they will allow access to iCal, which IMO has been WAY overdue. They allow something like the app Groups, drag and drop to access (full) to the contacts database, and not allow anyone access to the Calendar data- what a shortfall.

Anyway, back to point: do we know if a dev can even solve our needs, or has  blocked access to the Filesystem?

If the later is the case, JB is going to be the only route for at least a year, or Gen 2 whichever comes first- It will be the next "Magic" OHH AHHH- and Late!!!

I have no inside knowledge of the SDK, but what I can perceive based on the way existing apps work, is that devs can give an app the option of opening (or 'sending') a document in/to another app. e.g. Pages sends docs to Mail for example. Air Sharing can send docs to Pages, etc.

So, it would seem that Apple, or another aggressive dev (Google are you out there?) could develop productivity apps ala Pages that could send docs back to Air Sharing (or Goodreader, or iDisk, or dropbox, or or or) if they wanted to.

Devs feel free to chime in ;)



When you open up pages, or whatever and you are in the fileviewer. Before loading the document, press and hold on the title, then you can edit it.
 
It does sounds as stretch ;) Using iPad for editing multiple documents is easier than using a PC with multiple monitors? Very hard to believe. I am sure deep inside you do not believe it either.

Why mince words? Just be brave enough to call him a liar and get it over with.
 
So, I think we can all agree that the lack of an accessible file system is essentially a disaster for business use. One hopes this will be rectified later this year. If not, it's darn near a show-stopper for 'serious' use.

I still use my 27"iMac (with a 24" Dell screen set vertically next to it) as my primary 'command center' PC, and it's where I go for any serious work.

However, my Macbook Air has gotten nearly zero use since my iPad arrived. iPad is the perfect answer for browsing and basic e-mail.

HOWEVER,

my WiFi iPad will go to my wife, and the 3G version seems like a near-necessity for my needs. I've found that all kinds of places I'd like to use the iPad (car, while waiting for kids, as a guest in people's houses, at a deli for lunch, etc.) don't have WiFi. The ultra-portable iPad, with always-on and almost-everywhere data via 3G, will be a game-changer for me.

I usually tell people it's not worth it to make major sacrifices to save 15% or whatever in weight on a portable device. Real gains come when you're shaving 30-50% in weight. The iPad is 50% of a Macbook Air's weight, and for a LOT of people, provides 90% of the function, perhaps more with a bluetooth keyboard, which still puts it at ~60% of a Macbook Air's weight, and 3x the battery life of an Air.

The iPad isn't 'there' yet for business use. Accessible File System, good editing tools that allow you to edit and return .xls and .doc files to people who send them to you, and 3G access to files on your network are the required elements, IMHO.
 
I can't wait till DocsToGo becomes available on the iPad. I got it for the iPhone and never really used it because the screen was way too small for document edits. With an iPad version, I plan on doing some serious work on it.

Have any of you actually use the iPad over your work desktop/laptop while in the office? Would be interesting to hear some of those stories.
 
Are your PDFs stored locally or are you able to upload to the cloud?

In other words, once archived how do you access from another device, email?

I use dropbox to store all of my documents, but using goodreader I locally store all pdf for offline viewing.
 
It does sounds as stretch ;) Using iPad for editing multiple documents is easier than using a PC with multiple monitors? Very hard to believe. I am sure deep inside you do not believe it either.

Try all you want, you cannot display two separate powerpoint presentations at the same time on a two monitor system. It simply won't let you do it. You can with excel, by launching another instance of excel by holding down the CTRL key when you launch it, but you cannot do it with powerpoint. It doesn't matter what I believe deep down inside, this is a reality. I can have a completely separate computer to help with this, but the iPad is more convenient. I'm also finding it a handy resource when running a webex in a conference room, I can have reference material on my iPad while everyone else sees the presentation on my computer. I can also flip ahead to remind me what's coming without browsing ahead for everyone else to see while I do it. Simple I know, but it's making a difference for me.
 
Try all you want, you cannot display two separate powerpoint presentations at the same time on a two monitor system. It simply won't let you do it. You can with excel, by launching another instance of excel by holding down the CTRL key when you launch it, but you cannot do it with powerpoint. It doesn't matter what I believe deep down inside, this is a reality. I can have a completely separate computer to help with this, but the iPad is more convenient. I'm also finding it a handy resource when running a webex in a conference room, I can have reference material on my iPad while everyone else sees the presentation on my computer. I can also flip ahead to remind me what's coming without browsing ahead for everyone else to see while I do it. Simple I know, but it's making a difference for me.

It's possible to display two PP presentations in separate windows.

In PowerPoint 2003:
When opening the second ppt file, open it with IE instead of Powerpoint, and then under Edit, choose edit slides. This allows you to now edit the second powerpoint presentation independent of the first one (which is running under powerpoint).

In PowerPoint 2007:
Open View tab in the Options and look at the Windows group there. Select
Arrange All and both presentations will be shown side-by-side.
 
It's possible to display two PP presentations in separate windows.

In PowerPoint 2003:
When opening the second ppt file, open it with IE instead of Powerpoint, and then under Edit, choose edit slides. This allows you to now edit the second powerpoint presentation independent of the first one (which is running under powerpoint).

In PowerPoint 2007:
Open View tab in the Options and look at the Windows group there. Select
Arrange All and both presentations will be shown side-by-side.

Okay, and I don't want to rat hole this thread into a discussion about powerpoint, but I have 2007, I did what you describe, and all that does is scrunch the two presentations side by side on the same monitor. Even with a big monitor, they are small and a lot of wasted space on the screen. What I want is each of them on seperate monitors, the point in having a two monitor system. Make sense?
 
When you open up pages, or whatever and you are in the fileviewer. Before loading the document, press and hold on the title, then you can edit it.

Brilliant tip- thanks!

I also worked out that I can transfer files out of iWork by emailing to myself while not connected to the net, and then just collect the document from my outbox in Mail. Obvious really!

Seems that there would be a great opportunity for an app developer to reproduce this functionality for transferring documents out of any apps which you can email from, into a file storing like like Airsharing.....
 
I don't have mine yet but I'm already not looking forward to the all the work I'll have to do to make it do the most rudimentary tasks for business. I know, I know, it's not meant to be used for business. Well, that just sounds like an excuse. There's no reason this device couldn't wipe out a good portion of laptops are out there. They completely have the ability to do the things we want so why don't they? Imagine if a few apps were really geared toward business.... that would be huge!!!!!

I'm still looking forward to getting mine but I'm not looking forward to all the crap I'll have to do just to move some files around.

Rant over. :D
 
Brilliant tip- thanks!

I also worked out that I can transfer files out of iWork by emailing to myself while not connected to the net, and then just collect the document from my outbox in Mail. Obvious really!

Seems that there would be a great opportunity for an app developer to reproduce this functionality for transferring documents out of any apps which you can email from, into a file storing like like Airsharing.....

Agree. Or apple could open the file systeM
I am not going to hold my breath.

Actually considered picking one up for some business testing today. Could not believe apple and BB sold out with no definate answer as to upcoming supply.

Their shorting the supply chain ? Or is their a problem here.
 
I too am very interested in this topic, as we primarily got the iPad for my wife's school board activities, and secondarily got it for consuming media.

The syncing of files to and from the iPad is clunky and very un-Apple like. I don't expect it to be like this forever - remember, the first iPhone had no native apps other than what Apple shipped it with, and everything was done as web-apps, which I also thought was very clunky. Like is typical for Apple, they got the first iteration out the door, and will incrementally improve it.

My wife is on the school board and a member of 5 subcommittees. She needs to do 2 things: at the school board, she needs to read her PDF board packet and market it up, and at the subcommittee meetings, she needs to be able to take notes.

For school board packets, she uses iAnnotate. Works wonderfully. Very happy with that app. She can load up her PDF packet, review it the weekend before, mark-it up in iAnnotate, have those mark-up with her at the meeting, add more mark-ups, and keep the document on the iPad for later access in iAnnotate. There does not appear to be a way to export annotated docs from iAnnotate right now, but I expect them to add that soon (they have said it is coming). For now, she really does not have a need to export the annotated PDFs, but it would be nice for archival purposes. Having all her annotated PDFs handy on the iPad is real nice.

Taking notes is a bit more of clunky problem, primarily because of the challenge of getting stuff off the iPad. She has no issues with typing on the iPad, and the Apple case allows it to layout a lot like a laptop keyboard. For the file management, here is the work flow we came up with: she takes notes in Pages. Once finished, she exports the pages document to pages on the iPad (kind of strange, but you have to do that). After taking notes at a meeting, she plugs the iPad into the computer, and under the "apps" tab in iTunes under her iPhone, there is a section at the bottom to access files for apps. She clicks on the pages icon, saves the file with her notes to a directory on our iMac. We then use the FileBrowser app to copy the files back to the iPad, and then finally, erase the document from pages on the iPad. Quite an elaborate process.

I think they should and will replace this with a more elegant and easier file sync or file management system.

So she is using it for some fairly heavy lifting as a board member, and it works quite well at some things, and below par at file management work flow. The form factor, convenience, and quality of the apps are a big plus, and getting files off the iPad is minus. Overall, the pluses out weigh the minuses, so it is a keeper. Add in our other personal uses for it (we don't have a laptop, just an iMac), and is really nice to surf the web and email in bed, or watch TV or the Sling box in the tub. So here is my ratings:

Reviewing / marking up PDFs: A- (need to be able to export)
Creating documents: A (pages is great)
File management: D (please fix this!)
Form factor: A+ (small size, high power, what more can you say)
Other uses: A+ (great for media, household laptop uses)

Overall grade, B+. Apple can do better, and I expect that they will.
 
For the file management, here is the work flow we came up with: she takes notes in Pages. Once finished, she exports the pages document to pages on the iPad (kind of strange, but you have to do that). After taking notes at a meeting, she plugs the iPad into the computer, and under the "apps" tab in iTunes under her iPhone, there is a section at the bottom to access files for apps. She clicks on the pages icon, saves the file with her notes to a directory on our iMac. We then use the FileBrowser app to copy the files back to the iPad, and then finally, erase the document from pages on the iPad. Quite an elaborate process.
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:eek: Knowing where we are with technology today this is just absurd. Although I probably won't buy a Microsoft slate you know this won't be a problem with their device. I have no doubt it will have features to work with files. That's why I get so frustrated with Apple. They could do this!
 
:eek: Knowing where we are with technology today this is just absurd. Although I probably won't buy a Microsoft slate you know this won't be a problem with their device. I have no doubt it will have features to work with files. That's why I get so frustrated with Apple. They could do this!

+1. I've tried sooo hard in my head to try to justify an iPad for my workflow but with it's lack of even a very limited exposed file system, it's almost impossible for me to "recommend it" to myself.
 
My iPad goes out in the field everyday. As my 3G version has not arrived yet, my one single wish is that you could set up folder for files to take with you! All the RAM that I paid for and no way to carry files to use. I know it can be done but they could make it more easy!
 
mobileme for file transfer ?

I am in the UK so dont have an ipad yet. I had imagined that I could access files and do file transfers via my mobileme account, as I can do on the iphone?

Can one of you who has an ipad and mobileme tell me if this can be done?

Thanks
 
I am in the UK so dont have an ipad yet. I had imagined that I could access files and do file transfers via my mobileme account, as I can do on the iphone?

Can one of you who has an ipad and mobileme tell me if this can be done?

Thanks

I would think so. There are also several "cloud base" file services now onliune to do the same. Looks like they are the future for device like this
 
Using the cloud

I have switched to Office 2 Pro to do my document editing. It allows access to my iDisk account. It also will do google docs but that part of the program seems a bit buggy.
I'm am an IT guy too, and this has replaced my laptop as my primary remote access tool. Built in Cisco VPN, apps that allow me to SSH, RDP and VNC make this a great platform to do work. Manuals stay in PDF format and I use Goodreader. Finding Office 2 Pro for cloud document storage was the final nail in the coffin for my laptop.
 
Okay, and I don't want to rat hole this thread into a discussion about powerpoint, but I have 2007, I did what you describe, and all that does is scrunch the two presentations side by side on the same monitor. Even with a big monitor, they are small and a lot of wasted space on the screen. What I want is each of them on seperate monitors, the point in having a two monitor system. Make sense?


I have my powerpoints easily on two monitors right this second: just get a program like ultramon to span the monitors ... OR ...just take it off full screen and drag the window to the proportions to cover both monitors. Its really not that difficult
 
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