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Expose just became choppy on my DP2.0 G5. Can't figure out why. Look at this please
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Never be afraid to bother a small developer. They are normally quite thankful. If they don't want to be bothered then they will use an automated response.
i'll do it too !
another question about CPU. How can you know if you have a 7455A or 7455B CPU ? i knoe that the B ones are easily overclokable to 1.4, even 1.5, but not the A. Is Appolo an A ? Is there only B's in upgrade cards from 3rd party manufacturers ?
thanks
i have a new MDD dual 1.25, firewire 400 os9 boot.
another question about CPU. How can you know if you have a 7455A or 7455B CPU ? i knoe that the B ones are easily overclokable to 1.4, even 1.5, but not the A. Is Appolo an A ? Is there only B's in upgrade cards from 3rd party manufacturers ?
thanks
i have a new MDD dual 1.25, firewire 400 os9 boot.
All the MDD PowerMacs use the 7455b. That doesn't mean they are all capable of being overclocked to that level and it will require modifying your cpu card. There's no jumpers on these systems like there was on the older systems.
The most critical part of being able to overclock is in fact not the cpu but whether or not the cpu cache is capable of the higher clock rate.
overclocking shortens the life of a cpu and very often causes data corruption. I would advise against it. the increase in speed would not be worth the risk as it would only be a 5-10% speed boost.
No you're being heard. I agree that over-clocking is in most cases quite foolish. There are situations where through additional cooling a chip is quite capable of running at higher frequencies reliably without any chance of damage to the chip. The only way you're going to shorten the life of the cpu is through poor cooling and increasing the core voltage.
As a side note it's in very poor etiquette to make a post just to ask if anyone is reading what you are writing. Please avoid such posts in the future as they can be considered spam.
I assure you that I was not trying to spam. its just nice when you make an effort to help someone that they at least acknollege your effort rather than act as if the words you typed to aid them were meaningless. I work from home most of the time and check in here several times a day to see what I can help someone with. based on that I don't think my etiquette is off at all. maybe I should just stop bothering? proper etiquette is seeing that someone has tried to help you and then at the minimum say thanks for the advice ut no thanks. something like that.
I have been a mac user for years and years and that is good etiquette.
Thanks for your time.
I only have 512MB ram and had a few apps open when I ram vm_stat and it read 10% so I guess thats pretty good.
it could simply be a conflict with some system files or that fact that meteorologist is not optimised for your current OS version
I don't think it's the OS since it runs fine on my Dual/1.42 with 10.3.1.
I just realized there are some strange issues with the G5s and application compatibility I wonder if this is one of them.
Originally posted by BIGgui_X_
I dont think so !
I had the problems on a G4 Dual...
Hmm I wonder what the difference is between those with the problem and those without.
I have a blue and white G3 with a G4 500 upgrade and a radeon 7000 pci video card with the quartz extreme pci hack and expose runs perfect for me. not choppy even a little. I don't understand how you guys with much more powerful systems are getting choppy performance. you must have a lot of crap running in the background.
It has nothing to do with performance or load. It is a system conflict of some sort. I don't have the problem but I'm trying to help track down the issue.
Like MacBandit said, I am almost certain this has absolutely nothing to do with the number of processes I have running in the background or any other performance- or load-related issues. Reading the thread should make this crystal clear.
I reiterate: the problem only occurs when you are switching apps in expose, and even then, it's not _that_ choppy. Expose runs perfectly fine otherwise. To those of you who aren't having this problem, the best way I could describe it would be that as the window is scaling up to full size, it has a couple hiccups (not unlike the effect of skipped frames) at the beginning and then scales up to full size normally after the inital "skipping". The skipping is very brief, and only lasts a split second... that's why I'm having such a difficult time describing what exactly is happening. I tried to slow things down by running expose in slow-motion mode with the shift key, but then it runs perfectly fine.
I've done some further testing, and I've been able to duplicate the problem on two other computers: an iBook (600 MHz G3 / 640 MB RAM) and a Dual G4 (not sure what the specs were on this one). On the other hand, I noticed that a third machine (desktop G4 450 MHz, 384 MB RAM) ran expose fine even with menu extras running. At least I think it did (expose performance was already quite choppy to begin with). I've tried a few other menu extra programs (temperature monitor, some apps written by friends), and they all disrupt expose in the same way on my machine. Temperature Monitor in particular is a good app to try out: although it runs in standard mode on the dock, you can also toggle on an additional menu bar display. Enabling the menu bar display on my machine produces the expose problems, disabling it doesn't.
As for the computers exhibiting the problem, unless we all share hardware that is defective in the same exact way (unlikely), I think we can rule out faulty hardware as the culprit. I'm inclined to agree with MacBandit that this is an incompatibility issue, but I am still curious as to why BIGgui_X_ presented with the same problem even after a clean install.
Whew, that was some post
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Originally posted by steely
Like MacBandit said, I am almost certain this has absolutely nothing to do with the number of processes I have running in the background or any other performance- or load-related issues. Reading the thread should make this crystal clear.
I reiterate: the problem only occurs when you are switching apps in expose, and even then, it's not _that_ choppy. Expose runs perfectly fine otherwise. To those of you who aren't having this problem, the best way I could describe it would be that as the window is scaling up to full size, it has a couple hiccups (not unlike the effect of skipped frames) at the beginning and then scales up to full size normally after the inital "skipping". The skipping is very brief, and only lasts a split second... that's why I'm having such a difficult time describing what exactly is happening. I tried to slow things down by running expose in slow-motion mode with the shift key, but then it runs perfectly fine.
I've done some further testing, and I've been able to duplicate the problem on two other computers: an iBook (600 MHz G3 / 640 MB RAM) and a Dual G4 (not sure what the specs were on this one). On the other hand, I noticed that a third machine (desktop G4 450 MHz, 384 MB RAM) ran expose fine even with menu extras running. At least I think it did (expose performance was already quite choppy to begin with). I've tried a few other menu extra programs (temperature monitor, some apps written by friends), and they all disrupt expose in the same way on my machine. Temperature Monitor in particular is a good app to try out: although it runs in standard mode on the dock, you can also toggle on an additional menu bar display. Enabling the menu bar display on my machine produces the expose problems, disabling it doesn't.
As for the computers exhibiting the problem, unless we all share hardware that is defective in the same exact way (unlikely), I think we can rule out faulty hardware as the culprit. I'm inclined to agree with MacBandit that this is an incompatibility issue, but I am still curious as to why BIGgui_X_ presented with the same problem even after a clean install.
Whew, that was some post
For some reason I never picked up on the part of it only happening when switching between apps from within Expose. Now that I know the specific incident I find that it is indeed jumping on my machine as well. I'm going to wait at this point and see what happens with 10.3.2. I think it's probably a system level problem that as has been stated previously having increased number menu bar items causes the problem to occur.
Lets cross our fingers at this point. Also be sure to submit a report to Apple at this link.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/feedback/
Already did
. I've got a friend who works at Apple (his work machine is the dual G4 I mentioned in my previous posting), so I had him file the bug.
Originally posted by steely
Already did
Well I submitted one as well. Apple has really provided users a great way to communicate with them directly with the OSX submission form. I highly recommend that all users use it to not only submit any bugs they may notice but also make feature suggestions. This is the next best thing to editing and writing open source code yourself so please participate.
New developpement ??
Anyone has some new developpement about exposé ?? I'm now with 10.3.2, dual 1.25, 1.25 gig RAM, did another clean install with others osX disks......
as soon as i install a non Apple menu bar item (synergy, one again, iSeek, etc) exposé become choppy again !! :S:S
should we write or call apple about that ??
i just cant stand to see exposé becoming choppy.. it seems it's only true on some computer.....
what do we do now ??
thanks
Anyone has some new developpement about exposé ?? I'm now with 10.3.2, dual 1.25, 1.25 gig RAM, did another clean install with others osX disks......
as soon as i install a non Apple menu bar item (synergy, one again, iSeek, etc) exposé become choppy again !! :S:S
should we write or call apple about that ??
i just cant stand to see exposé becoming choppy.. it seems it's only true on some computer.....
what do we do now ??
thanks
Re: New developpement ??
Not it happens on all computers when switching from one app to another within Exposé and especially with multiple menu bar items even the Apple only ones.
Definitely report it to Apple I and other have done so already.
You can do so here.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/feedback/
Originally posted by BIGgui_X_
Anyone has some new developpement about exposé ?? I'm now with 10.3.2, dual 1.25, 1.25 gig RAM, did another clean install with others osX disks......
as soon as i install a non Apple menu bar item (synergy, one again, iSeek, etc) exposé become choppy again !! :S:S
should we write or call apple about that ??
i just cant stand to see exposé becoming choppy.. it seems it's only true on some computer.....
what do we do now ??
thanks
Not it happens on all computers when switching from one app to another within Exposé and especially with multiple menu bar items even the Apple only ones.
Definitely report it to Apple I and other have done so already.
You can do so here.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/feedback/