Don't confuse battery health with capacity.Not saying I don’t have it enabled either but by using this feature we are basically using a phone with 80% battery life health 😅
Don't confuse battery health with capacity.Not saying I don’t have it enabled either but by using this feature we are basically using a phone with 80% battery life health 😅
Biggest waste of time/battery power.
I used this feature with my new Iphone 15 PM from day one and after 3 months was already down to 97% after 35 cycles!
Got an iPhone SE through work over a year ago and charged it as and when needed to 100% and it still shows 100% capacity.
For real. Sounds like the trade-off is just... not worth it? I'd rather have 20% more battery every day for 3 years straight and have it lose 20% of its health, rather than have 20% less battery every single day and lose "only" 10%+ of its health after 3 years.So you are saying that in order for my phone or iPad to last longer I can only have 4/5 of the battery life every single day??
I don't know if having the device last longer is worth losing 20% of the length of how long I can use it before it dies every day...seems like a bad idea to me
So you are saying that in order for my phone or iPad to last longer I can only have 4/5 of the battery life every single day??
I don't know if having the device last longer is worth losing 20% of the length of how long I can use it before it dies every day...seems like a bad idea to me
Exactly.the battery neuroticism needs to end
maybe design devices so the one disposable part can be replaced more easily?
Depends on your usage. I plug in my phone whenever I can, in office or in car so my phone is always maintained between 50-80%. With this enabled, I can plug in and not worry at all.So you are saying that in order for my phone or iPad to last longer I can only have 4/5 of the battery life every single day??
I don't know if having the device last longer is worth losing 20% of the length of how long I can use it before it dies every day...seems like a bad idea to me
Apple users right here in this forum have asked for this for years. For people like you Apple is always doing something wrong. It does not slow anything down so you might want to read the article before coming to your made-up conclusion.Consumer: This is fantastic. I ❤️ Apple.
iPhone 15 PM, 256 cycles and at 98%. Normally by now is around 92-94%Weird. My 15 Plus is still at 100% after 189 cycles
Actually, battery replacements for Apple products are very reasonably priced, and come with extended warranty (in EU). One can argue about the right to repair, but I personally prefer a compact phone to one with a replaceable battery (like the Fair Phone).…
Apple owners would not care so much about battery life if repairs and battery replacements were fairly priced or easily diy'ed.
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Just when you need that extra push over the cliff.There's a Spinal Tap reference here somewhere....
I was joking about Apple adding a new switch with those features, not implying that’s what Apple just implemented. And nope, some things Apple does well. It’s just happening less often. I’m a long time loyal Apple customer who has become frustrated with the manner in which they treat us. I actually bought a new iPhone for my daughter this past weekend.Apple users right here in this forum have asked for this for years. For people like you Apple is always doing something wrong. It does not slow anything down so you might want to read the article before coming to your made-up conclusion.
They are, however you cannot ever get one on the iPad. Apple stores simply do not replace batteries on the iPad like they do on the iPhone. They only ever replace the entire device and only if the health indicator drops below 80% which it only does after many years when the battery life has long since decreased noticeably. Many iPads cannot ever get any replacement as the battery remains above Apple's threshold until the device is declared vintage and replacements are no longer being stocked.Actually, battery replacements for Apple products are very reasonably priced
Sure but giving us extra features that are optional and disabled by default to cater to a small minority of customers that really want it is a good thing and Apple doesn't do it often enough. There are many times I wish I could change some behaviour even though my opinion wouldn't be a very popular one. The more such options we get the more versatile Apple products can become. And I do think the 80% option is a good one for people that don't use their devices too much and don't ever need the full battery charge.I’m a long time Apple customer who has become frustrated with the manner in which they are treating us.
Why not make batteries that have an extra 20% we never "see". So 100% is basically 80%.
So you are saying that in order for my phone or iPad to last longer I can only have 4/5 of the battery life every single day??
I don't know if having the device last longer is worth losing 20% of the length of how long I can use it before it dies every day...seems like a bad idea to me
Ah interesting. I didn’t know that about iPads. I have only ever replaced iPhone batteries.They are, however you cannot ever get one on the iPad. Apple stores simply do not replace batteries on the iPad like they do on the iPhone. They only ever replace the entire device and only if the health indicator drops below 80% which it only does after many years when the battery life has long since decreased noticeably. Many iPads cannot ever get any replacement as the battery remains above Apple's threshold until the device is declared vintage and replacements are no longer being stocked.
Good pricing is irrelevant when you can't get the service in the first place. My iPad's down to about 3 hours of battery life now but Apple tells me they can't swap the battery on my M1 iPad and the device is not eligible to replaced even though it's about 3 years old now. Maybe I can replace it in 1-2 years but that means suffering with the bad battery for that long and next year I am interested in upgrading to the M4 anyways.
So for all intents and purposes it's impossible to get a battery replacement.
Sure but giving us extra features that are optional and disabled by default to cater to a small minority of customers that really want it is a good thing and Apple doesn't do it often enough. There are many times I wish I could change some behaviour even though my opinion wouldn't be a very popular one. The more such options we get the more versatile Apple products can become. And I do think the 80% option is a good one for people that don't use their devices too much and don't ever need the full battery charge.
Listen, we all (or at least most) understand and know this concept very well. We were not living under the rock for the last decade 😁 The Thing is it's good to get some perspective on what this means in practice if you want to follow all the rules of battery care. In the case of iPad Pro: 6h battery instead of 10h.This isn't a new idea and one that is already widely employed in consumer electronics. Many E-bikes and other PEVs with large lithium ion batteries have this option to protect their expensive battery packs. My Sony Bluetooth speakers have this option. Samsung phones and tablets have this option plus an they have an "intelligent charge" mode where it can learn your charge habits and adapt. For example, if it learns you wake up at 6am it will slow charge all night to 80% and hold it there. Then at say 4:30am it will trickle charge to 100%. The idea is that the battery will spend as little time as possible at full charge thus extending battery life but without limiting capacity. I have a four year old Samsung tablet that still lasts all day thanks to this feature. The 80% option actually makes more sense on an iPad or other tablet where a lot of people don't need to use it all day as they would a phone. Those who do can simply toggle it off.
Biggest waste of time/battery power.
I used this feature with my new Iphone 15 PM from day one and after 3 months was already down to 97% after 35 cycles!
Got an iPhone SE through work over a year ago and charged it as and when needed to 100% and it still shows 100% capacity.
This option means that should a day come when you need to charge to 100% (for example you will be travelling) the battery still has the health to do it. Without this feature* the battery might have degraded to 90% health after a year or so of heavy use so getting the full "100%" battery life would be impossible.