Other Eye-strain while using iPhone X and up

[Heman87]

So I couldnt cancel my iPhone 17 order anymore. Since it was here I opended and tried it anyway. What a nice phone! It feels very good in the hand. And heavier and premium than the iPhone 16. The slightly larger screen makes also very nice impression. However.. I immediately feel that PWM is bad. When i try to take a video to capture it i see very black thick lines. I haven't played enough with it. But i will probably return it. And it is weird that when you enable the toggle "Disable Pulse Width Modulation" and "Reduce White Point" can not be active both at the same time...

Back to my old iPhone 11

 

[GlenK]

Oh well, glad I didn't waste time pre-ordering. Will just go down there and test them.

 

[PwmMen]

what do you mean by calmer? like colors wise or motion? I always have reduce motion on my XR on

I mean when I read that the writing is so restless compared to the iPhone 16 Plus.
I am now looking forward to the Oppo Find X9 Pro, that should have several functions for eye protection.
I will definitely test it. If Apple doesn't do anything, I have to look around somewhere else. Even if
I am very satisfied with my iPhone 16 Plus, but I would like more camera functions.

 

[gigapocket1]

I dont know how you meant "PWM off" but keep in mind that enable the toggle "Disable Pulse Width Modulation" and "Reduce White Point" can not be active both at the same time. You will see it, if you go back to the settings and back in. "Reduce White Point" disables the toggle "Disable Pulse Width Modulation"

Oh wow. I did the disable pwm. And then did reduce white point. Didn’t notice it disabled the toggle

 

[Heman87]

So I couldnt cancel my iPhone 17 order anymore. Since it was here I opended and tried it anyway. What a nice phone! It feels very good in the hand. And heavier and premium than the iPhone 16. The slightly larger screen makes also very nice impression. However.. I immediately feel that PWM is bad. When i try to take a video to capture it i see very black thick lines. I haven't played enough with it. But i will probably return it. And it is weird that when you enable the toggle "Disable Pulse Width Modulation" and "Reduce White Point" can not be active both at the same time...

Back to my old iPhone 11

Update: I played with the phone for than 15 mins and my eyes are burning now. This is the worst phone i tried so far. So i would like to suggest avoid the 17!

 

[QuattroRS6]

My iPhone 17 Pro was announced for Monday and surprisingly arrived today, on Saturday here in Germany. My joy was immense, but it was short-lived. I turned on the iPhone and within seconds I was battling nausea. The built-in software switch for PWM seems to do absolutely nothing for me. I have the same Feeling on the MacBook Air M1 - M4 so maybe its not PWM, maybe Temporal Dithering is the Problem, then i have this nausea.

I also would say worst Phone ever, with iPhone X, XS, 11 Pro, 13 Pro, 15 Pro i had no problems.

 

[DJTaurus]

Those of you who tried 17 without success did any of you upgraded your previous iPhone to iOS 26 ? And if so how did it go ?

 

[QuattroRS6]

My iPhone 15 Pro has iOS 26 since RC Version and i use it without any Problems.

 

[now i see it]

UPD: the best thing to do nowadays is just to abandon smartphones for good. Use them only for occasional texting, calling and staying connected. It means no creative tasks whatsoever, minimum writing and minimum text reading tasks

That's the exact same conclusion I came to a few years ago. Use iPhone as little as possible. It is not a toy

 

[Mr.Simple]

I have the iPhone 17 Pro Max since yesterday here. And sadly the PWM toggle also nothing change for me. Same symptoms and i have slightly vertigo. It's odd because i normally get only headache from the eyestrain.

So probably my Pro Max will get back to Apple next week

 

[kargurin]

What other oled phones you tried and gave you issues ?

All of them. Moto has been the best of the lot.

 

[now i see it]

iPhone needs a CA Prop 65 warning:

"This device is known by the state of California to potentially cause eye strain, severe headaches, nausea, vertigo, heart arrhythmia and seizures"

Would anyone in their right mind buy a product that had a warning like that?
Of course not - yet all those warnings are absolutely true.

 

[The.Glorious.Son]

I’m wondering something. You notice how there are a lot of articles out right now covering the addition of the PWM toggle? Do you think there’d be any value in us collectively writing each and every author and report what we’ve found, point them to this thread, and ask them to write a follow up? I can’t imagine every journalist or blogger is bound to silence by Apple.

Just a thought. It feels different at this moment in that there’s actually a slight bit of momentum and vision on the topic. But if we do it, we DO IT. We compile a list of all articles here and then all step up and follow through.

We can spend hours talking about it in here so it’s a reasonable ask.

 

[ghanwani]

Wow! I thought I was the only one having to go and buy SE2022 out of desperation to have only usable device.

When did you buy it? I want to buy one with 128GB/unlocked if still available.