f.lux has about 8 million downloads

[timpster]

I read the last thread top to bottom and could not make sense of the energy level. All that fear and anger over free and optional software.

Yeah I didn't understand it at all either... the counter arguments the people gave -- against the people who basically said either, it wouldn't happen, or the API would be too dangerous, or Apple was too busy etc etc -- the people who counter argued against all that seemed very reasonable.

The people that almost defended apple's "decision" on not putting it in the system did not seem reasonable at all

Also, iOS 7.1 has a setting called "reduce white point"
From what I've seen on youtube, it just literally makes the screen darker - and makes it look even colder, so unless the time of day was off, then Apple did a terrible job with that setting.

 

[Menneisyys2]

The people that almost defended apple's "decision" on not putting it in the system did not seem reasonable at all

We're speaking of die-hard Apple fanboys. Expecting reasonable arguments other than "it's not feasible", "it can't be implemented", "Apple has a lot other to do", "it'd chew thru the battery very fast", "it'd a security hole" (all ridiculous ones).

 

[ElectronGuru]

Also, iOS 7.1 has a setting called "reduce white point"
From what I've seen on youtube, it just literally makes the screen darker - and makes it look even colder, so unless the time of day was off, then Apple did a terrible job with that setting.

I find the standard minimum to bright and have been running reduced white point for a week. I can't see any color shift and it probably doesn't change the output of the LED backlight. What it does seem to do is shift the chrominance values down, like adding a bit of black to a can of paint.

There are 3rd party apps for the Mac that do the same thing. Handy for the iMac that has fixed min/max just like an ipad. The cool part is, you can set it as low as you want, allowing exaggeration of the effect to see what it's really doing.

 

[navodwickra]

haven't used this on my iPhone but on my Mac it's so helpful @ night.

 

[0xyMoron]

Highly unlikely Apple would adopt such thing, ask any graphics designer that uses F.lux and he'd tell you the most annoying thing about it is starting a project and forgetting to turn if off.

For a casual user f.lux is perfect, it's adaptive to sunrise/sunset, easy on the eyes and even healthy for people that spend hours on their computers/phones at night. If you need to play a game on your iPhone you have to turn it off, if you want to take or edit a picture you have to turn it off, that just adds a bit of annoyance on the user's end even if the feature comes with on/off toggle not everyone will like it and probably only previous f.lux users on a jailbroken devices who are used to turn it on and off multiple times at night would use it.

 

[Serelus]

Highly unlikely Apple would adopt such thing, ask any graphics designer that uses F.lux and he'd tell you the most annoying thing about it is starting a project and forgetting to turn if off.

For a casual user f.lux is perfect, it's adaptive to sunrise/sunset, easy on the eyes and even healthy for people that spend hours on their computers/phones at night. If you need to play a game on your iPhone you have to turn it off, if you want to take or edit a picture you have to turn it off, that just adds a bit of annoyance on the user's end even if the feature comes with on/off toggle not everyone will like it and probably only previous f.lux users on a jailbroken devices who are used to turn it on and off multiple times at night would use it.

I can see this happening on Desktops and Laptops sure. But why would you have to turn it off to edit a picture on your iPhone or iPad? Generally no heavy editing is done on those devices anyway.

 

[0xyMoron]

I can see this happening on Desktops and Laptops sure. But why would you have to turn it off to edit a picture on your iPhone or iPad? Generally no heavy editing is done on those devices anyway.

It's a personal preference, some people start and finish professional projects on their iPads, i do a lot of non-professional photo editing on my iPad and prefer to do so with f.lux disabled, sure disabling is only a toggle away but if you have to do it 3 - 4 times per day then it gets annoying for some people, personally i don't mind, i've been a f.lux user for a long time and i find it extremely useful when you're browsing or reading long articles at night.

 

[Menneisyys2]

Highly unlikely Apple would adopt such thing, ask any graphics designer that uses F.lux and he'd tell you the most annoying thing about it is starting a project and forgetting to turn if off.

Assuming Apple themselves add this to the OS, they could easily define an app "whitelist" (video players, photo viewers / editors) where it'd be automatically deactivated. As does the desktop f.lux now (see "disable for current app").

 

[Serelus]

It's a personal preference, some people start and finish professional projects on their iPads, i do a lot of non-professional photo editing on my iPad and prefer to do so with f.lux disabled, sure disabling is only a toggle away but if you have to do it 3 - 4 times per day then it gets annoying for some people, personally i don't mind, i've been a f.lux user for a long time and i find it extremely useful when you're browsing or reading long articles at night.

Lol, I am not really understanding this... if it becomes such a hassle just leave it off permanently?

 

[Menneisyys2]

Lol, I am not really understanding this... if it becomes such a hassle just leave it off permanently?

The advantages surely outweigh the hassles of having to disable f.lux from time to time.

Of course, a blacklist would be the best.

 

[takeshi74]

Ask @justgetflux on twitter - or email them at justgetflux at gmail dot com how many users they have or how many downloads they get and they will probably tell you 8 million.

8 million IOS users? Even with 8 million that's a tiny percentage. Don't get me wrong, I use f.lux and like it but it's still a niche product.

 

[Menneisyys2]

8 million IOS users? Even with 8 million that's a tiny percentage. Don't get me wrong, I use f.lux and like it but it's still a niche product.

It isn't a niche product if you take a look at the "Top 10 JB tweaks" lists published in the last two years. Many of them has f.lux on them, showing it's very popular.

No wonder f.lux-alikes are abound on Android and they all have a reference to 'f.lux' in their description.

 

[thelatinist]

I love f.Lux, but those who want Apple to allow it on iOS have no understanding of how the sandbox works.

 

[Carlanga]

So where do you get the 8 million number

 

[C DM]

I love f.Lux, but those who want Apple to allow it on iOS have no understanding of how the sandbox works.

More like they want Apple to implement something similar themselves or at least allow for some more visual options.

 

[Shuri]

Tried it out on my Mac today (not a short glance, I set it up correctly and told it to slowly change the colors); Have to admit, it's kinda nice (now switching to day-mode is a horrid experience ), but what I don't like is that the display gets more viewing angle dependent in way, that it results in a color gradient from up to bottom, what is really annoying... Wouldn't be such a problem on the iPhone, but than again looking on my iPhone after working with the Flux display on the Mac, is not nearly as eye hurting as on the big 15" screen..

 

[Menneisyys2]

More like they want Apple to implement something similar themselves or at least allow for some more visual options.

Exactly. Many Android and Windows Phone device vendors offer this with their devices - Apple should follow suit.

 

[thelatinist]

More like they want Apple to implement something similar themselves or at least allow for some more visual options.

Exactly. Many Android and Windows Phone device vendors offer this with their devices - Apple should follow suit.

But that is something quite different. "Come on, Apple, allow this in the App Store" is completely different from "Come on, Apple, implement something like this." The former is overwhelmingly what I've seen people moaning about.

 

[C DM]

But that is something quite different. "Come on, Apple, allow this in the App Store" is completely different from "Come on, Apple, implement something like this." The former is overwhelmingly what I've seen people moaning about.

People would be happy either way.

 

[dmj102]

I keep waiting and waiting for Apple to offer f.lux and I would buy it if it was available in the App Store.

Sometimes I think that the retina display with the whole white theme is burning my retina I can't read the news on my iPad anymore. Nor, can I read the books I bought on my iPad. Instead, I bought a Kindle Paperwhite to read my books and my eyes like it.

For me, it not about sleep. I can sleep just fine. F.lux is easy on my eyes at night. PERIOD. In the evening, I used to like to read the news on my iPad and ever since I installed iOS 7, it is too glaring white. Most of my apps also use the glaring white theme. For instance, Flipboard became extra white and there is no option for night view. My eyes get sore fast and then they remain sore for days.

Yes, I have seen an optometrist and my eyes are okay. Yes, I use my reading glasses. Yes, I increased the font size. Yes, I turned down the brightness, but you can only go so low. Yes, I look away every 15 minutes etc. So I'm running out of options.

I had f.lux on my iPad before, but lost it when I updated to iOS 7.1. Big mistake because I really miss it. When a jailbreak is available again, I'm going to get f.lux, but it would be ideal if Apple would just give us the option to have/buy f.lux or something similar.