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Really, it would be GREAT to have, and Apple SHOULD allow/implement it, but they DO NOT HAVE TO.

Noone can force them to do it, yes. Many of us will, if Apple continuously refuses to implement something like this (or directly purchase / license / incorporate f.lux into the OS) and jailbreaking still remains this hard, just switch to an alternative tablet platform where f.lux works or is (by the devs) promised to work.
 
I wouldn't say it was a medical necessity. If you suffer that badly you shouldn't be looking at screens before you go to bed. Simple as that.

Human beings have been on the planet for a very very long time now, and we've been looking at computer screens since the late 80's with no problems. flux has been around for a couple of years. It's not a medical necessity.
I agree! I've been looking at computer screens for more hours a day than most people since the early 70s, and I sleep like a baby. This is just one more software company trying to sell its wares, like so many of the advertisements for designer drugs to treat obscure or non-existent conditions they claim are suffered by baby boomers.
 
I agree! I've been looking at computer screens for more hours a day than most people since the early 70s, and I sleep like a baby. This is just one more software company trying to sell its wares, like so many of the advertisements for designer drugs to treat obscure or non-existent conditions they claim are suffered by baby boomers.

Flux is free. Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about.
 
I agree! I've been looking at computer screens for more hours a day than most people since the early 70s, and I sleep like a baby. This is just one more software company trying to sell its wares, like so many of the advertisements for designer drugs to treat obscure or non-existent conditions they claim are suffered by baby boomers.
So because something doesn't affect you it is therefore fictional...that's just dripping with "logic".
 
Can someone tell me exactly what this app does?

Edit: ok, I get it now. Interesting idea.
 
I like the idea of the orange glasses - I might get some myself to help with my own issues. Can't find any on UK Amazon that fit over glasses though :(

I bought a pair of glasses from these folks (lowbluelights.com). Based in the US they ship internationally for a flat rate of US$30. Because these types of glasses are used for industrial safety I would be surprised if you can't find them somewhere more locally. Good luck!
 
I actually use F.Lux 24/7 now, even during daytime on my gaming PC. It has made a massive difference to my sleep. Before I used to go to bed at 10pm and fall asleep by 12am. Now I go to bed at 10 and I'm asleep by 10:15.

Unfortunately with my iPhone 5 and rMini not supporting F.lux, I've had to stop using them at nighttime in bed. I'm going to return the rMini for the Nexus 7 so that I can install some F.lux alternatives available on Android. Won't be switching from the iPhone however. It's too damn good.

Yeah, the nexus 7's increased constrast also makes it easier on the eyes as well.
 
And the silliness continues...instead of agreeing that it would be a good idea for Apple to add something really simple (that already even exists) that would be helpful at least to some if not quite a few people, some people will go out of their way to being up all kinds of irrelevant stuff just to make it seem like they have a point against it when there really isn't a rational one to make to begin with, and those people really just want to be argumentative for the sake of being argumentative (since to them that appears to be one of the draws of anonymous online forums).
 
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I've cleaned up the thread, lets try to keep this discussion on topic.
 
What about section 508 compliance.

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That might compel apple to comply.

Why? The inability to look at an iPhones LCD before bed is not a disability!!!

People who suffer with this condition (condition - not disability!) likely watch the TV before bed, maybe sit on the computer for a while, and will be much more affected by things like energy saving light bulbs rather than just their iPhone, hence there are products designed specifically to deal with this condition (tinted glasses etc).

How many times? Yes - it's a nice thing to have. No - lack of sleep because of using your phone without f.lux is not a disability.

Go to the doctors about the problem, I dare you. You know what they'll say? Put your phone down an hour before you go to bed. Or they'll prescribe you tinted glasses. They will absolutely NOT tell you to jailbreak your iPhone and install f.lux.
 
Go to the doctors about the problem, I dare you. You know what they'll say? Put your phone down an hour before you go to bed. Or they'll prescribe you tinted glasses. They will absolutely NOT tell you to jailbreak your iPhone and install f.lux.

Rest assured: they'd say that, should they know it exists, as anyone else would. Why unnecessarily suffer from glasses or why should one refuse to use their iPads when it's not necessary?
 
[Doctors] will absolutely NOT tell you to jailbreak your iPhone and install f.lux.

No. But they probably would tell you to enable the option if Apple offered it as an accessibility feature. Which is what many of us would love to see. And remember that if you have no need for it, this is not going to affect you in any way. For example, personally, I have no need for the "Reduce Motion" option, but it doesn't really hurt me that it's there for users who might appreciate it. :)
 
Reduce Motion, White on Black, Increase Contrast... these are all accessibility options for known conditions - conditions which stop people being able to use or make it difficult to use the device at all. Motion sickness is a very real problem, as is an inability to see. Being unable to sleep properly because you couldn't leave your phone or iPad alone for an hour before bed is not a disability. That's as simple as it gets.
 
Being unable to sleep properly because you couldn't leave your phone or iPad alone for an hour before bed is not a disability. .



Can we not get away from the discussion whether it's a "disability" or not. :) To me, that's really beside the point. I wouldn't call it that either, and don't necessarily agree with the title of this thread. That doesn't change the fact that I consider an automatic adjustment of the color temperature based on the time of day incredibly useful. I really don't see an argument against providing the option. Of course, alternatively you could simply stop using your iOS devices at night, or better yet stop using them altogether. That's one way to "solve" the problem, sure. In fact, Personally I do try to do my electronic reading, especially at night, on an e-ink based reader instead, which results in even less eye strain or sleep disruptions than a device with f.lux installed.
 
Reduce Motion, White on Black, Increase Contrast... these are all accessibility options for known conditions - conditions which stop people being able to use or make it difficult to use the device at all. Motion sickness is a very real problem, as is an inability to see. Being unable to sleep properly because you couldn't leave your phone or iPad alone for an hour before bed is not a disability. That's as simple as it gets.
Getting vertigo like effects from looking at the iPhone screen too much with all the animations is not a disability either but it certainly is an inconvenience to at least some people. Apple seemed to go out of their way to not only provide an option to allow to turn down animations but even spent more time making it work that much better so that people affected by this kind of an issue could use the phone more often and with a better experience. The whole thing with better lighting type of options can easily be seen in a similar light (no pun intended) for people who experience issues related to that (which is in fact a known condition, even if it affects less people and/or has somewhat lesser immediately noticeable effects as some other much more immediate conditions).
 
What a great idea!

Maybe your local optician can custom-cut orange slip-overs like they can do with polarising sun glasses?

I bought a pair of glasses from these folks (lowbluelights.com). Based in the US they ship internationally for a flat rate of US$30. Because these types of glasses are used for industrial safety I would be surprised if you can't find them somewhere more locally. Good luck!

I'm not spending £70+ ($100) to buy something that will make me look a complete dork and *then* find out it doesn't work.

http://www.amazon.com/Solar-Shield-Fits-Over-Sunglasses-LENSES-29008AMBER/dp/B000LWJCJW

That's only $20 in the US. Ebay.co.uk has lots of Solar Shield stuff, but only grey & brown, no orange. Ah well I am meeting a friend from the US soon, I'll ask if she can order a pair for me, and I'll buy her a pint.
 
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Can we not get away from the discussion whether it's a "disability" or not. :) To me, that's really beside the point. I wouldn't call it that either, and don't necessarily agree with the title of this thread. That doesn't change the fact that I consider an automatic adjustment of the color temperature based on the time of day incredibly useful. I really don't see an argument against providing the option. Of course, alternatively you could simply stop using your iOS devices at night, or better yet stop using them altogether. That's one way to "solve" the problem, sure. In fact, Personally I do try to do my electronic reading, especially at night, on an e-ink based reader instead, which results in even less eye strain or sleep disruptions than a device with f.lux installed.

Yes, I agree it would be useful, but it is certainly NOT a 'medical necessity' as the thread title implies.
 
medical necessity, prolly not...but I love f.lux and would be thrilled if apple bought them and gave us the option to use it!
 
Yes, I agree it would be useful, but it is certainly NOT a 'medical necessity' as the thread title implies.

Don't think anyone's saying it's a necessity. This is becoming a problem though and the AMA has recognized the issue as having potential to disrupt a LOT of individuals sleep cycles. Roughly 35% of Americans own a tablet and 91% worldwide own some kind of smart device. The other half's reasons for NOT including this option is weak and based on their own self opinion.

Half the time I just really think this following likes to argue with each other. This should be an accessibility feature, absolutely. What development effort will it take? Barely any, if any. Considering the tech exists, Apple would just buy them out. If they don't, then I could see this taking a team of their highly intelligent Engineers less than 3 weeks to implement. I'll say it again, you fighting against this feature were some of the same that said the Control Panel was a horrible idea, and that no one other than the "techies" would use it or want it.

EDIT: Just read the title again. "Necessity" might be a little strong but this is becoming a HUGE problem and a reason why I don't let my son use the iPad up to an hour before bedtime.
 
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