Do you have a link or can you remember where you read about it? I would be interested in reading this, but do not seem to find it with a superficial search.
f.lux on El Capitan--have you tried it?
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Do you have a link or can you remember where you read about it? I would be interested in reading this, but do not seem to find it with a superficial search.
It leads to a piece at Macworld. It is not a study through and the language there is a bit more nuanced also. The author points to two researchers who are still researching how much the brightness and light intensity affects us instead of just the colour temperature, but they are not actually discrediting the hypothesis that a change in screen colour temperature could not have the desired effect, they simply doubt as to whether that is the whole story. What I get from this is that it is still actively being researched all around. I agree with your view though that the way in which this feature is being advertised resembles snake oil, but at the same time I feel that I am doing my eyes some good by reducing the blue light. Turning f.lux off always gives my eyes a wee shock for a moment.
fisherking
macrumors G4
well put.
I have found setting it to custom colors and using a fixed setting at 3700 for both sunset and bedtime seems to work well for me. When I allow it to adjust dynamically, I start getting headaches with the lack of contrast as it gets later into the night. The fixed setting is similar to what the iPhone has and that works well for me.
T'hain Esh Kelch
macrumors 604
It doesnt really need to have the impact on sleep that one paper showed, it just have to improve screen use, which it certainly does for me personally. I love the warmer colors in the evening, it is so mich more pleasent to work on.
But it does on occasion flash between standard and yellow settings in the evenings on Capitan, so I am hoping for an official implementation as on iOS.
bmac89
macrumors 65816
F.lux is an essential app for me. I simply can't use the computer without it!
It makes such a huge difference at night - sometimes I even use dark room mode which eliminates all the white and turns it black/red.
It has such a profound effect on reducing eye strain - just don't accidentally disable it or fast switch users late at night in a dark room as you will temporarily blind yourself with the brightness!
You don't need to manually disable it each time you watch a movie. You can set it to automatically disable for certain apps.
It makes such a huge difference at night - sometimes I even use dark room mode which eliminates all the white and turns it black/red.
It has such a profound effect on reducing eye strain - just don't accidentally disable it or fast switch users late at night in a dark room as you will temporarily blind yourself with the brightness!
You don't need to manually disable it each time you watch a movie. You can set it to automatically disable for certain apps.
dogslobber
macrumors 601
But it's a placebo until proven otherwise through studies. Snake oil, but if i works for you then fair enough.
T'hain Esh Kelch
macrumors 604
I don't think you read my post properly. I stated that I like the warmer colors in the evenings. Nothing snake oil about that, only personal opinion.
fisherking
macrumors G4
a fact is a fact; for myself, friends & fam i've shared it with, co-workers...it's much easier on the eyes at night. turn it off, and bam! painful... it's a great app.
PurrBall
macrumors 65816
Try disabling automatic brightness adjustment in System Prefs
bmac89
macrumors 65816
Who cares if it is placebo - if it helps people with eye strain at night then it is a great app for many people.
Whilst F.lux itself may not have been tested many scientific studies do show that exposure to light at night (in-particularly blue light) does disrupt the normal Melatonin production - there are plenty of papers on pubmed.
Also if you go to a medically trained sleep specialist they will almost certainly talk about this and other 'sleep hygiene' practices.
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fisherking
macrumors G4
the thing is....what it definitively does is not a placebo; it does make the screen easier to view at night. so personally, am not concerned what it might or might not accomplish beyond that; the experience of working on my macbook at night is infinitely better with f.lux than without it.
T'hain Esh Kelch
macrumors 604
Will do, thanks!Try disabling automatic brightness adjustment in System Prefs
pcgeek12345
macrumors regular
I have been using it on my Macs and PC's for years now. Love it, cant use a computer without it!
Romf
macrumors 6502
Well it may be placebo about "helping you sleep".
Anyway it makes it easier on the eyes when it's dark.
I always found the iphone screen brightness to strong even at minimal setting just after waking up.
Now, in the morning I put nightshift on (if it's not already) and that + brightness at minimum is much easier on the eyes for me.
[doublepost=1460142221][/doublepost]BTW which color settings do you use? I left all by default ("recommended colors")
Its just snake oil but I could probably easily find a dozen articles or more (if you search for the correct thing) that say it isn't.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/does-blue-light-ruin-sleep-we-ask-an-expert/
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/does-blue-light-ruin-sleep-we-ask-an-expert/
fisherking
macrumors G4
whether it helps you sleep better or not...i don't care. it literally softens the glare from the screen at night. turn it OFF, and it's terrifying. i've used it for years, and would not do without it.
apple must understand this; witness 'night mode' in ios 9. so, sure this will happen 'officially' at some point in os x.
i've used it for years, and would not do without it.apple must understand this; witness 'night mode' in ios 9. so, sure this will happen 'officially' at some point in os x.
whether it helps you sleep better or not...i don't care. it literally softens the glare from the screen at night. turn it OFF, and it's terrifying.
apple must understand this; witness 'night mode' in ios 9. so, sure this will happen 'officially' at some point in os x.
Whats funny about it is that at dusk into night its gradual so you don't notice it much and like you say you turn it off at like 1am and you blinded by the blue. I think its somewhat how a vampire must feel looking into the sun.. if vampires were real and all.
I'm not a huge fan of it on my iMac tbh. I'd prefer the integrated night shift for OS X so I wouldn't have the extra icon on the top menu bar. I also hate that I have to have auto brightness disabled to use it. I keep having to adjust my screen brightness throughout the day and I dunno it's just such a hassle. Also it keeps yelling at me. "7-1/2 hours until you wake up. 5-1/2 hours until you wake up." OKAY F.LUX I GET IT I'M SLEEP DEPRIVING MYSELF AND I'M GONNA REGRET IT IN THE MORNING BUT I DON'T NEED YOU TO KEEP REMINDING ME ABOUT IT.
I think you can turn that off its "Backwards Alarm Clock" in options. I have never disabled auto brightness.. do you have a old version or something? Not arguing if you don't like it I understand just wondering.