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So at the same time Apple and others are saying it can be fooled in some cases. You are saying, it’s not flawed in any way and that Apple has perfected it?

Which security method is perfect or fool proof? Only thing companies can do is make it harder to beat. But it will always be possible given time.
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Get your kid the cheapest Android phone to play Angry Birds, I'm sure he will be happy and won't see the diference. Mine doesn't touch my X.

Or purchase a discount ITunes card just for their account.
 
Perhaps they are afraid on the kids queueing a purchase, holding the phone up, and saying "Hey, mom, check this out". Bingo, purchase. (Or dad).
 
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Truly a first world problem. They make you provide a password (until an update for this feature). Oh, how will those poor iPhone X owners ever get by!?!

Perhaps the first world IS the first world because our response to problems (even small ones) is to damn well complain about and then fix them, rather than just accepting them as the will of god and part of life ...
 
I suspect this is simply waiting for a software modification. Some other contact will be necessary -- you can't simply bring up a message asking for confirmation with FaceID, as in the process of reading what's being asked for you are automatically going to end up confirming (unlike with TouchID in this instance).

It would make sense for the iphone to request pressing both side buttons (like with Apple Pay) or similar, while having FaceID ok'd. So there is a little additional step required here for the iphone X. I can see exactly why Apple removed it for the moment to make sure confirmation was positive for these situations.
 
I minor inconvenience that will be remedied in an update, stirred into a storm in a tiny teacup.
 
"You can't use it for Family purchases" ...for now. Like Touch ID at its beginning.

Well, considering TouchID preceded Family sharing by 2 years...

"You can't use it in landscape" ...seriously? Is this a dealbreaker? I personally don't give a sh*t about landscape.

Nobody said it was a deal breaker but it's objectively inferior to TouchID. And you may not give a **** but plenty of other people do.

"You can't add more than one face" ...unless you are some kind of mutant living in Tchernobyl or Fukushima, you only have ONE face while you have 10 fingers. Face ID and Touch ID were never ment to be used by multiple users. It's a fact. Apple said it.

Intended use or not, it's also an objectively inferior experience to TouchID. I love being able to have a fingerprint on all of my kids devices.

"You have to look at the device to unlock it" ...wrong. Turn off Attention Aware feature and you wont need to look at your phone. You just need to have your face in the scan field of the TrueDepth camera. Anyway, you have to put your finger on the device to unlock it, sooooooo where is the difference?

Come on...

So your solution is to compromise security. :rolleyes: And while you don't have to have your eyes stare at the phone, you still have to have your face in proximity of the sensors. Being able to quickly unlock using TouchID while your device is flat on a desk/table and not having your face positioned over the sensors is still an advantage in TouchID's favor.

Any other apologies for Apple you'd like use?

I really like FaceID but it's far from a perfect replacement for TouchID.

And I have 3 kids using iOS devices so this inconvenience, while not significant, is still a step backwards from using any older phone with TouchID and a bit of a p.i.t.a.
 
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You are correct. You will never go back to Touch ID because Apple won't let you. Not your choice unless you downgrade to a slowed-down phone. Gotta love the "Apple ecosystem."

Save us your stone-throwing. The throttling only kicks in when a battery has reached a certain wear-and-tear.

As for this feature, it is curious why Apple has mandated the password entry instead of Face ID. I wonder if it's based on lengthy studies where parents may accidentally authorize purchases without first stopping and thinking. A password prompt gives them that moment of pause.
 
The solution is very straightforward. Let the user decide if they want to allow Face ID authentication to authorize purchases. Display the necessary legalize and also warn the user with a big, bold prompt that Face ID, like Touch ID, isn’t 100 secure and the user is selecting convince over security and will not hold Apple accountable if unauthorized purchases are made due to flaws in Face ID. After they authorize the change show them in big, bold print where they can shut it off if they change their mind. Problem solved....
 
That’s what I wondered too (not having used this feature). If the point of FaceID is it reduces the ‘friction’ of having to actually touch something to authenticate, then in situations where it’s actually an advantage to need that extra step issues like this one will come up.

It does sound like Apple did it on purpose but haven’t explained why, yet. But these days, who knows?!
It’s definitely puzzling by Apples standards and I believe an oversight rather than done on purpose.

In my case when my children want to download an app on the AppStore they initiate the purchase through the AppStore i then get the notification from their devices giving me details of the app/game and the option to say yay or nay... on older devices with touch ID it was easy to approve purchases this way.

Now with the X you have to do this two step verification which is pretty pointless, why am i asked to use face id then immediately after prompted to input my password! For every single app download request.

Im glad this issue is now being raised as i find it very frustrating.
 
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I don't have kids and my $1000 phone shouldn't be designed for kids.
Ok, you don’t share your phone. But for the rest of us that do, a guest user feature would be awesome.
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Get your kid the cheapest Android phone to play Angry Birds, I'm sure he will be happy and won't see the diference. Mine doesn't touch my X.[/QUOTE
Get your kid the cheapest Android phone to play Angry Birds, I'm sure he will be happy and won't see the diference. Mine doesn't touch my X.
Get your kid the cheapest Android phone to play Angry Birds, I'm sure he will be happy and won't see the diference. Mine doesn't touch my X.
The artical is talking about iPhone X users unable to verify family purchases with FaceID. Buying an Android phone wouldn’t fix the problem Einstein!
 
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