iPhone X Face ID is Preventing Me From Buying an iPhone X - Anyone Else?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by boltjames, Sep 27, 2017.

  1. boltjames Suspended


    May 2, 2010
    Let me first say that I think Face ID will function as advertised. That's not my issue. My issue is that there are specific situations where the phone isn't in my hand and getting my face where it needs to be simply won't work. Some examples:

    I'm in meetings all day and frequently need to quietly check an email or two; Face ID would require me to pick up the phone to look at it or lean forward in an obvious manner, tipping off the person speaking.

    I commute by car each day and use a vent mount to hold my phone; Face ID would require me to do neck gymnastics to get my eyes oriented over the center console to unlock it if I'm getting gas or am parked in a queue to pick up my son after school.

    At my desk, my iPhone lies flat about 8 inches away from the keyboard. To wake the phone I merely press the home button. To unlock it I keep pressing. With Face ID to wake the phone lying flat on the desk I need to use my whole hand to grip the phone and hit the side button with my thumb. If I then want to unlock it I need to pick it up and point it at my face.

    I have a beach house and am full of sticky sunscreen and sand as I sit in my chair with my phone lying flat on the armrest. With Touch ID all I have to do is keep my pointer finger clean to unlock the phone. With Face ID I have to grab the entire phone with my dirty hand, get the case full of oily chemicals, and get the case full of gritty sand merely to check for a text message notification which I tend to do every 15 minutes.

    I use Apple Pay constantly and the new behavior adds steps and complexity. With Touch ID all I have to do is slide my hand in my pocket, pull it out by the thumb, and before the phone hits the wireless terminal it's already unlocked and authenticated. With Face ID it takes twice as long to double click buttons, raise the phone to my face, etc.

    I'm not afraid of the technology. I believe it will function as advertised. What I'm saying is that there is nothing convenient about Face ID except almost exclusively for situations where the phone is in your hand. And for my usecases at least 50% of the time my phone is not in my hand when I need to unlock it. So it will prevent me from buying a X. Which is a shame because I like the new screen and I like the new gestures and am bored of the 6/7/8 form factor.
  2. Nozuka macrumors 68000

    Jul 3, 2012
    just one sidenote:
    you do not need to press the sidebutton or lift the phone to wake up the screen. with the X you can just tap the screen.

    not going to comment on the rest until i have some real world experience.
  3. applesith macrumors 68030


    Jun 11, 2007
    I have similar concerns about Face ID as well. I've become very used to being able to unlock the phone with Touch ID without having to worry about looking at my phone. There's no doubt that Face ID is much more "needy" way to unlock a phone.
  4. 1Zach1 macrumors 65816


    Feb 8, 2008
    Northern Va
    I'm sure the X isn't for everybody, so feel free to not get it, but just some responses to your specific examples in bold.
  5. Rayban macrumors 6502


    Sep 5, 2008
    All valid points but I have no real concern here. I'm ready to embrace the future.
  6. soulreaver99 macrumors 68020


    Aug 15, 2010
    Southern California
    You could always just tap in your numerical unlock code...
  7. nviz22 macrumors 601


    Jun 24, 2013
    FaceID is one of the few things preventing me from purchasing the iPhone X as well, in addition to price. I just wanted a fluid motion with facial detection instantaneously opening up a phone after the power button is pressed. However, that didn't happen and I not in the market for the X now.
  8. Bane-Thunder macrumors 6502

    Mar 12, 2014
    Firstly you can wake the screen by tapping the screen.

    Secondly, we have to wait for the phone to be out and experienced by day to day users to know how well FaceID works so stop making assumptions.
  9. Danbrown521 macrumors regular

    Jun 19, 2011
    Lakeland, Fl
    My wife went with a iphone 8, because of fear of face ID. She reads up on all the conspiracy theories of the government or other agencies spying on our lives through cameras. We've went around and around about not putting tape on my MacBook camera. I'm a full time nursing student, a father of 3, and a husband. Nothing so interesting going on here for someone to watch me. lol
  10. BeeGood macrumors 68000


    Sep 15, 2013
    Lot 23E. Somewhere in Georgia.
    As others have said, tap to wake helps to mitigate some of these issues, but I do agree with the gist of your post. I’m concerned that the iPhone X implementation of FaceID will be less convenient than TouchID. And I’m not sure about the gestures that will replace home button functionality.
  11. patricem macrumors 6502


    Nov 18, 2005
    I hate TouchID. It rarely works for me. Extremely frustrating and bogs me down trying over and over and over, only to then have to enter the code. Hold the phone up? It turns on? This I need and one of the main reason I want to purchase the X.
  12. USC_Gamecock macrumors regular


    Sep 22, 2004
    Sounds like you should stick with the 8+ with all your concerns and wait it out. Or switch to Samsung.
  13. DaveOP macrumors 65816

    May 29, 2011
    Portland, OR
    I get the impression that is works at various angles, and you don't have to pick the phone up and point it at your face. They demo'd someone doing this out of a swimming pool. I would wait until reviews drop next month, I really don't think Apple would release it if it was as terrible as you make it out to be.
  14. OllyW Moderator


    Staff Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    The Black Country, England
    Try it when it comes out. You can always return it if it doesn't work out for you.
  15. boltjames thread starter Suspended


    May 2, 2010
    Thank you for that clarification, tapping to wake the phone while it lies flat is a step in the right direction.
    --- Post Merged, Sep 27, 2017 ---
    This is a good option but the local Apple store has the 8 256GB Space Grey in stock and waiting another month or two to upgrade from my three year old 6 is a challenge.
    --- Post Merged, Sep 27, 2017 ---
    Thank you for the clarifications and tap to wake helps, but if I have a device flat on a conference table and tap to see that I have a text I need to respond to, I still am in the awkward position of either picking it up or leaning my face over the table in order to engage Face ID. This will tip off the rest of the people in the meeting that I'm not entirely paying attention, and this happens to me several times a day.
  16. OllyW Moderator


    Staff Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    The Black Country, England
    I've just upgraded my 6 to a 8+, it's a great upgrade if you don't mind the familiar looks.
  17. tkukoc macrumors 65816


    Sep 16, 2014
    Wish I Was In Space!
    Face ID isn't the only thing stopping me from getting the X. The screen is just to small when compared to the Plus sizes. I just can't see myself dropping what I already have for something smaller.
  18. Sheboygan macrumors member


    Feb 27, 2016
    St Louis, USA
    I am holding off on the X due to Face ID until millions and millions of users help Apple to make it as usable as Touch ID. Face ID may need to be augmented with something like Touch ID. As I see it now, Face ID will require me to interact with the device in ways I don't or don't want to.
  19. chabig macrumors 68040

    Sep 6, 2002
    How do you propose to read the email without looking at the screen? If you can see the phone, it can see you.

    If you can see it, it can see you.

    First, you don't have to unlock your phone to use Apple Pay. Where FaceID takes twice as long is unknown, but I doubt it. You definitely don't have to raise the phone to your face. If you can see the screen, it can see you.

    I think you're jumping to conclusions. Wait and see.
  20. bufffilm Suspended


    May 3, 2011
    All the cases you posted are valid concerns.

    At best, FaceID will require little more than an additional 1 second delay to do its work. But it may prove that FaceID will impose more of an imposition than TouchID to unlock your phone.

    We don't know.

    But I believe Apple blundered by choosing not to support TouchID in the ipX.

    As I said countless times before...TouchID is a proven and convenient means to unlock your phone.

    It was irresponsible of Apple to not include it. We don't know if TouchID will be replaced by FaceID at some point in the future.

    ipX users are beta testers of this new technology.

    I don't beta test. End of story.
  21. 1Zach1 macrumors 65816


    Feb 8, 2008
    Northern Va
    .......How is this different than using TouchID? One way or another you're typing on your phone when you should be paying attention to the meeting. How you unlock the phone seems like the least of the issue in that situation.
  22. eVolcre macrumors 68000


    Jan 7, 2003
    The old way

    The old way you’d use Touch ID to see your text message. How will you reply to it without tipping everyone off ? Type one handed on a phone sitting on the conference table? I mean that’s pretty blatant

    The new way tap to wake shows you your notifications. Replaces the old way of placing your finger on the button. I guess if you need to respond you may need to pick up the phone or angle it slightly but it’s probably just as distracting as the old way.

    Not arguing. Trying to understand your use case here.

    Also, have you considered an Apple Watch? It’s brilliant even if all you use is the notifications. Completely reduced my need to be staring at my phone all the time and no one really catches on that you’re triaging emails or replying to texts. The scribble thing actually works and you can have custom replies preset that usually work 80% of the time.
  23. Pipper99 macrumors 68000


    Aug 14, 2010
    Fort Worth, TX
    I'm concerned about how FaceID will work in day to day experience, but I'm eager to try it, and I'm excited about the X. An in-store demo won't be an adequate evaluation for me. Since Apple gives us 14 days to return the product, I intend to put the X through its paces, and I'm guessing that I'll wind up loving it and keep it as planned. If not, I'll return it.
  24. Ntombi macrumors 68040


    Jul 1, 2008
    Bostonian exiled in SoCal
    The phone is smaller than the Plus, but the screen is about the same size. You know, that whole “bezel-less” thing?
  25. MistrSynistr macrumors 6502a

    May 15, 2014
    Why would anyone ever "want" this feature? This is more of a we did it, and you WILL adapt thing.
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    Your wife isn't a "conspiracy theorist" considering this was all proven recently they are doing this to us.

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