Facebook Doesn't Want to Give Apple Requested Documents in Epic v. Apple Fight [Updated]

[incoherent_1]

I admittedly don't know the facts of the case, but Facebook has repeatedly shown itself to be the digital equivalent of used car salesmen – duplicitous, greedy, and interested only in their own advancement.

 

[wanha]

17,000 documents is not a lot, as far as requests go.

Even less so for a company of Facebook's size, which presumably employs an army of lawyers.

 

[MacBH928]

Maybe FB is avoiding going to court because then they will be prosecuted for breaching basic human decency

 

[AndiG]

Hey Apple, welcome to the monopolist party. But being a monopolist isn't evil - it is only evil to behave like one. Ignoring requests from developer, users and companies. Acting anti competitive in many cases we've seen in the past.

I know Apple already changed some rules, just because Apple knew that it was doomed if it didn't. But hey, that is not enough.

 

[opeter]

Epic games has a logo - must we see these characters again and again?

Agreed. MacRumors, use the one below.

It's borrowed from this site:

Epic Games Store Launcher Could Be Overheating Your CPU

Gamers have reported that a bug in the Epic Games Launcher is causing their PCs to overheat.

www.makeuseof.com

 

[pacalis]

There are no innocents wronged here. This is a little group of sharks fighting with the bigger shark because greed. I'm rooting for the consumer in this case, may the best outcome for the consumer come out of all this.

The customer is the innocent here. Further your view of the customer is not mine.

At the start of the pandemic, my kids and I used ipod pros to play Fortnite together. The game rendered beautifully on an 2018 ipad pro at 120 fps and paired with an xbox controller. It didn't even sweat (like my loaded, new acer zephryus). It is unusual for any one to have multiple tvs in a room, so our big fortnite fan played on the tv and the rest of us more casually on Apple products. We paid for the "battle pass" and "skins" and it was good.

Then, out of the blue, Epic just cut out of the app store forcing every apple customer to switch platforms if they wanted to have updates and continue to play with their friends. For me that means new gaming laptops or xbox/tv setups or whatever. So now, while we still have the fan on xbox, my other child no longer joins. How is that not hurting the customer?

And before you suggest that Epic has every right to seek some fair situation for themselves, which they do regardless of how you see this situation, they could have sued Apple without breaching the app store policies and cutting off their customers.

 

[pacalis]

Hey Apple, welcome to the monopolist party. But being a monopolist isn't evil - it is only evil to behave like one. Ignoring requests from developer, users and companies. Acting anti competitive in many cases we've seen in the past.

I know Apple already changed some rules, just because Apple knew that it was doomed if it didn't. But hey, that is not enough.

Frankly the only monopolist here is Epic. There are many platforms that Apple competes against where you can purchase Epic products. However there is only one company that sells and controls Fortnite.

I've not seen anyone post this, but this is basically a reverse bundling situation. A couple decades ago, Microsoft knocked out netscape by bundling explorer, a free application, with the not free OS. What Epic is trying to do here is used its monopoly position with the free application, to bundle it in with the payment system.

It is totally damaging to the consumer but that is certainly not how Epic is framing it.

 

[SDJim]

Sounds like Facebook is deliberately trying to slant the trial in Epic's favor, which is not only wrong, but also illegal. this is seriously becoming even more outrageous by the day.

 

[cmaier]

Sounds like Facebook is deliberately trying to slant the trial in Epic's favor, which is not only wrong, but also illegal. this is seriously becoming even more outrageous by the day.

No, it’s not illegal. In fact, the Judge ruled that Facebook does not have to produce the documents to Apple.

 

[deevey]

And before you suggest that Epic has every right to seek some fair situation for themselves, which they do regardless of how you see this situation, they could have sued Apple without breaching the app store policies and cutting off their customers.

I'd guess they were banking on consumer outrage (at Apple) and a whole lotta other companies siding with them and their little rebellion.