Facebook Outlines What Data it Collects From Other Apps and Websites

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    When Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg testified in front of Congress last week about the ongoing Cambridge Analytica scandal, he was asked a question about what kind of data Facebook collects from people when they use various apps and websites that have Facebook tools and integrations installed.

    Zuckerberg promised to share more information on that topic at a later time, and today Facebook made good on that promise with a detailed article on what data Facebook gets from third-party apps and websites.

    Facebook has several plug-ins and tools that allow Facebook to gather data on users even when they're not using Facebook, including social plugins (Like and Share buttons), Facebook login (which lets you log in to services with a Facebook account), Facebook Analytics, and Facebook ads (allows apps and websites to show ads from Facebook advertisers, run ads on Facebook, and measure ad effectiveness).

    Facebook says that whenever you use an app or a website that has one of these tools installed, the company receives information even if you're logged out of Facebook or do not have a Facebook account.

    According to Facebook, the information collected offline is used to "make [app and website] ads better," with Facebook receiving data that includes IP address, browser, operating system, cookie information, and which app or website you're using, all of which is common information collected when you use an app or a website.

    Facebook provides detailed information on how the data collected from each of these tools is used:

    [*]Social plugins and Facebook Login. We use your IP address, browser/operating system information, and the address of the website or app you're using to make these features work. For example, knowing your IP address allows us to send the Like button to your browser and helps us show it in your language. Cookies and device identifiers help us determine whether you're logged in, which makes it easier to share content or use Facebook to log into another app.
    [*]Facebook Analytics. Facebook Analytics gives websites and apps data about how they are used. IP addresses help us list the countries where people are using an app. Browser and operating system information enable us to give developers information about the platforms people use to access their app. Cookies and other identifiers help us count the number of unique visitors. Cookies also help us recognize which visitors are Facebook users so we can provide aggregated demographic information, like age and gender, about the people using the app.
    [*]Ads. Facebook Audience Network enables other websites and apps to show ads from Facebook advertisers. When we get a request to show an Audience Network ad, we need to know where to send it and the browser and operating system a person is using. Cookies and device identifiers help us determine whether the person uses Facebook. If they do, we can use the fact that they visited a business's site or app to show them an ad from that business - or a similar one -- back on Facebook. If they don't, we can show an ad encouraging them to sign up for Facebook.
    [*]Ad Measurement. An advertiser can choose to add the Facebook Pixel, some computer code, to their site. This allows us to give advertisers stats about how many people are responding to their ads -- even if they saw the ad on a different device -- without us sharing anyone's personal information.

    App and website usage habits are also used to determine the content and ads that are shown on Facebook. A person who visits a lot of sports related sites, for example, will see more sports-related news stories and ads.

    To control what data Facebook is collecting, the company directs users to its News Feed preferences and Ad preferences to remove unwanted advertisers and opt out of certain types of ads. You can disable the feature that lets Facebook provide targeted ads based on your browsing habits, and you can disable the option that lets other apps and websites use your Facebook interests to provide ads.

    Facebook says that it will address additional questions that were raised during Zuckerberg's testimony in future posts.

    Article Link: Facebook Outlines What Data it Collects From Other Apps and Websites
  2. mysterydate macrumors 6502


    Feb 24, 2010
    Waseca, MN
    I'll wait while Mark explains how people with no accounts can opt out of collection, like he said.
  3. nwcs macrumors 68000


    Sep 21, 2009
    Exactly. I deleted my fb account 5 years ago and I don’t want them tracking me at all. That’s one reason I like the prevent cross site tracking options in Safari even if it interrupts things.
  4. magicschoolbus macrumors 65816


    May 27, 2014
    Deleted my Facebook years ago because I didn’t want them with my data and now they are getting it anyway? Is this legal?
  5. bladerunner2000 macrumors 68020


    Jun 12, 2015
    For those still wanting to use Facebook install the following plugins (click on names for links):

    Ghostery (blocks ads, scripts, trackers, etc)
    AdBlock (blocks ads only)
    Adnauseam (this one actually clicks ALL ads and screws with ad results, a total PITA for ad servers!)
    PrivacyBadger (blocks trackers, etc)
    Facebook Container (for Firefox)

    For browsers, I recommend Brave which is also available for iOS and Android.
  6. loby macrumors 6502a


    Jul 1, 2010
    It does not matter if you delete your account. It is not deleted in their system and servers. You can tell if you want to activate or log in again with your old email and password. It just reactivates it again. I did this years ago and deleted my account. Then...I tried a few years later to activate my account again and ‘bing’ it went back to my old account with all of the information.

    They don’t delete anything. They are data collectors.
  7. BWhaler macrumors 68030


    Jan 8, 2003
    Just when you think a company can’t be grosser than Uber or Theranos, Facebook’s half truths promise to steal the throne.

    Zuck and Cheryl Sanberg know what they did. For shame.
  8. rturner2 macrumors 6502a

    Jul 18, 2009
    More focus should be on Google, not just Facebook!
    --- Post Merged, Apr 16, 2018 ---
    wow.... who would have thought a company backed by VCs and investors that just want a return at any cost; doesn't care about users personal information. My mind just exploded on this unforeseeable news. ;)
  9. Rogifan macrumors Core


    Nov 14, 2011
    I’m no Facebook fan and don’t use the service but what do people expect with a free service? Facebook has to make money some how. If your a business, especially a small to medium sized business you’re going to want the ability to micro-target. And if you’re a user do you want to see ads for random things you couldn’t care less about? Having said that I think there needs to be more scrutiny around shadow profiles, around people who don’t use the service but Facebook is still able to get data on them either because someone else allowed Facebook access to their contacts or via just by browzing the web (via Facebook Pixel). Facebook should not be able to track people who don’t use the service.
  10. caskin8a macrumors member

    Feb 20, 2009
    All anyone actually wants to know is does Facebook record the filthy p*rn you’re watching? And I don’t think that’s answered.
  11. Kabeyun macrumors 68000


    Mar 27, 2004
    Eastern USA
    Facebook tells us. And we believe Facebook. Because Facebook is always honest and good.
  12. Vasilioskn macrumors 6502


    Jun 30, 2010
    New York
    Are people that stupid to still be on Facebook ?
  13. now i see it macrumors 68040

    Jan 2, 2002
    FaceBook: you can check out any time you want... but you can never leave. Ha!
  14. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

    Oct 17, 2011
    Not really any more or less than to simply be on the internet in general, realistically speaking.
  15. dhess34 macrumors newbie

    Feb 14, 2008
    There’s the sticky matter of US data retention laws to deal with. So if you tell a tech giant to ‘delete all your data’, but two years later the US government wants your data ... *poof* they WILL produce that data! I worked at a Silicon Valley giant where I saw that exact scenario play out 10-15 times over just a couple years (that I knew of).
  16. madKIR macrumors 6502a

    Feb 2, 2010
    Are you trying to tell me you’re not using Instagram, WhatsApp, Viber, or any other app/platform?
    They’re all pretty much the same as long as they are connected to the Internet.
  17. Jimmy James macrumors 601

    Jimmy James

    Oct 26, 2008
    I'm also concerned about my Amazon app searches showing up as ads all over my Facebook feed. Bedfellows.
  18. alexhardaker macrumors regular

    Sep 12, 2014
    For Mac/iOS users, you can use this:https://better.fyi/

    They advice against ghostery and Adblock Plus etc. They allow “ethical” ads. The guy gives talks on data and privacy etc too.
  19. Jaekae macrumors 6502a

    Dec 4, 2012
    Yeah but you can use a vpn tunnel if you got something to hide ^^
  20. simonmet, Apr 17, 2018
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2018

    simonmet macrumors 68000


    Sep 9, 2012
    That’s so wrong. If you do want to leave the service, best to download your profile data then individually delete every post, unfriend everyone. Delete as much as you can and replace required fields with dummy data, then proceed to delete your account.

    --- Post Merged, Apr 17, 2018 ---
    Funny, they use as an example of their “ethical ads” policy The Deck network, which was shut down ages ago. So they don’t seem to be able to keep their website up to date.
  21. GeekGuys macrumors regular

    Mar 13, 2009
    As an experienced IT engineer of many years I can tell you that most of the explanations given for storing data are hogwash. It is widely known that IP addresses are very poor for geotagging, language support, and the other reasons given. Also, there is no need to store this information as any logic would be done locally, on the browser.

    Don't forget that Facebook was originally a website to rate how hot (or not) girls were in college, by sad horny men (namely Zuckerberg and the twins). So it would be at least honest if he just said

    "look, we store data to sell it, make me rich, and provide you a free platform. You want privacy, then pay".

    But that doesn't sound nice, so we get nonsense and bulls hit *
    --- Post Merged, Apr 17, 2018 ---
    And another thing. I'm confused by the surprise the world is showing about data privacy. If you actually read the website T&C you will find it all explained there. It is the same on pretty much all websites.
    Using the excuse about "who reads that anyway" doesn't remove your responsibility.
    Do you honestly think MacRumors is doing anything different? Free to use platforms need to survive and make a profit. Advertising and/or data mining. Pretty much the only way to do that.
  22. vincebio macrumors 6502a


    Jun 27, 2005
  23. B4U macrumors 68000


    Oct 11, 2012
    Undisclosed location
    I never had an account to begin with, and I avoided it like cancer, does this even going to track me now?
  24. apolloa macrumors G4

    Oct 21, 2008
    Time, because it rules EVERYTHING!
    Do you get those options in iOS Safari?
  25. WBRacing macrumors 65816


    Nov 19, 2012
    How does that behaviour fit with the new EU GDPR regs?

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