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Facebook Tests Related Articles Fact-Checking Update in Ongoing Quest to Combat Fake News

Can we go back to just sharing photos and other stuff on Facebook?

I rarely click any news article that someone posts. Maybe the odd "Top 10" list or whatever.
 
TonyC28 said:
Good point. But now the problem is that younger people are getting their "news" and information from Facebook and not bothering to research it on their own. They'll see a clever meme and repeat it as though it was read from an encyclopedia.
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As a "younger person" I get my news from Facebook, but Facebook is basically aggregating it for me because I follow a bunch of different publications. It was the older generations, by the way, that elected Trump, a guy who, no matter your political leanings, plays fast and loose with the truth on an unprecedented scale in politics.
 
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Mac32 said:
Independent new media telling real stories about the attacks on the sovereignty of Western nation states, and the threat to Western culture and society from open borders and mass immigration from Africa and the Middle East (particularly the Muslim Arab world) = "fake news"

That's the real issue here, right? That, and the new independent media becoming too powerful, thus threatening the narrative and power of the left-leaning mainstream media.

Remember the news reports about "PewDiePie is a Nazi", "Don't vote for Trump because...Putin", "Don't vote for Le Pen because...Putin", "Brexit is racist" etc.?

If you really want a discussion about "fake news", then take a good look at the propagandist partisan mainstream media.
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Which terrorist attacks weren't covered by mainstream media?
 
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Redneck1089 said:
If people care so much about fake news then they should be checking their own damn sources by looking at multiple publications and platforms.

It's not big corporations or the government's responsibility to make sure that the information you're receiving is accurate; YOU as a FREE individual have a responsibility to check that. Just because people are lazy and don't do their own research does not change that fact. This is just another type of nannying, and people are only okay with it because they are lazy and sheep.

This is literally putting the onus of fact checking sources on someone else. Why would you trust government or corporations to report 'accurate' news?
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But that really doesn't work, does it? As everyone should know by now, "checking sources" means locating confirmation on the internet opinion echo-chamber. So that is merely a definition of the problem, and by no means, the solution. Not sure how government can be inferred in any of this (seems you just fabricated that concept for emotional impact purposes). In fact, it is "big corporations" responsibility inasmuch as journalists tend to work for them. If your argument is that you should trust nothing that you don't sniff out with your own nose, then in reality, you are going to be living in a comfortable dark corner of your own creation.
 
I like the idea of the reliability of "news" and information surrounding it being more available. I'm just wondering about potential bias though depending on whose pocket Facebook or anyone is in at the time
 
8281 said:
Which terrorist attacks weren't covered by mainstream media?
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The immigrant riots in Paris in February was ignored by the state sponsored media here in Scandinavia (as with many other similar stories), but every time a bomb goes off in the Middle East, it's prime time news - and we see close up pictures of women and small children. But where is the footage and pictures of victims of the terror attacks here in Europe? Those are conspicuously absent. I wonder why...

More importantly, the mainstream media during the immigration crisis hounded and demonized any individual who uttered any skepticism or warning against opening up the borders, and basically ran a huge disinformation campaign where the risks and negative consequences were brushed under the carpet. Now it's too late, and the damage has already been done.
 
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macduke said:
I'd like some machine learning that could fact check the president in real-time. Actually, you don't even need machine learning, just a permanent title that says "False" or "Alternative Facts" while he is talking.
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you would need 10 super computers to keep up.
 
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There have been so many terrific posts thus far in this thread, too many to quote individually. The fact of the matter is that fake news is a REAL problem that has been around for years, but it hasn't been until this past election that it has reared it's ugly head in such spectacular fashion. Mac32 said it well:
Mac32 said:
Yep, it's basically a culture war between globalism and nationalism, and the fake news-narrative is propaganda from the globalist/traditional power elites (who to a large extent control most of the mainstream media through various mechanisms). Yes, there are fake news stories out there, but strangely enough nobody cared that much about them until Donald Trump won and the conservative populist movement in USA and Europe started to gather momentum.
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As conspiracy theory-eque as this sounds (and I'm not a conspiracy theorist), there really is a global war going on right now between big money and the average citizen. And it is this war that has birthed Brexit, Donald Trump, and Marine Le Pen. Who knows who/what will happen next? Though the long term effects of populism are yet to be seen, I for one am thankful to see the people fighting back against globalism.
 
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8281 said:
As a "younger person" I get my news from Facebook, but Facebook is basically aggregating it for me because I follow a bunch of different publications. It was the older generations, by the way, that elected Trump, a guy who, no matter your political leanings, plays fast and loose with the truth on an unprecedented scale in politics.
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Not sure why you'd take this personally or resort to the standard tactic of bringing up Trump. I'm just stating what the stats show.
 
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ibookg409 said:
People should read the news and determine for themselves if something is legitimate or not. It's called discernment and it comes from living in the real world, not from a sheltered world where you get to play with puppies when Trump is elected and start fires when someone with whom you disagree gives a speech.
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The problem is when the young generation doesnt read news printed on dead wood or doesnt watch tv. The only "news" they see is from Facebook. No matter how one sided CNN or Fox is, getting your information about the world solely from social media is far more worse!
 
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The problem is when the young generation doesnt read news printed on dead wood or doesnt watch tv. The only "news" they see is from Facebook. No matter how one sided CNN or Fox is, getting your information about the world solely from social media is far more worse!
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Then their lazy parents should get off their lazy asses and try parenting for a while.
 
v0lume4 said:
As conspiracy theory-eque as this sounds (and I'm not a conspiracy theorist), there really is a global war going on right now between big money and the average citizen. And it is this war that has birthed Brexit, Donald Trump, and Marine Le Pen. Who knows who/what will happen next? Though the long term effects of populism are yet to be seen, I for one am thankful to see the people fighting back against globalism.
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What is globalism, and why does it need to be fought?
 
I get much of my news from YouTube, from The Rubin Report, Stefan Molyneux, Paul Joseph Watson, Steven Crowder, Rebel Media and Sargon from Akkad. These YouTube channels are highly recommended. There's no political correct filter, and instead you get real facts, deep analysis and big picture-observations. Unfortunately, they recently lost most of their ad revenue, because of fake news in mainstream media (originated from Wall Street Journal) about "racists and nazi videos" with big corporation ads on them - like the fake PewDiePie story (where WSJ also called up various corporations, and encouraged them to drop their ads). Simply a hit job on new media, nothing else.

Once you discover the kind of journalism I just mentioned, you'll never be able to take CNN og co serious again. Also, several of the guys I mentioned make lots of witty observations and funny videos (like Steven Crowder and Paul J. Watson).
 
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What a surprise, the Trump voters want nothing to do with technology that would supress the "journalism" that helped get him elected. The "mainstream media is full of liars" crowd who insist that without Breitbart and Infowars, we'd be enslaved by the corporations.
 
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Mac32 said:
I get much of my news from YouTube, from The Rubin Report, Stefan Molyneux, Paul Joseph Watson, Steven Crowder, Rebel Media and Sargon from Akkad.
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All hard right-wingers dealing in opinion screeds, not facts, and certainly not journalism. Molyneux, in particular, is a borderline cultist. Not a remotely unbiased person in this group. So what you have illustrated is not your independence or interest in obtaining facts, but the lengths some will go to avoid them.
 
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Mac32 said:
I get much of my news from YouTube, from The Rubin Report, Stefan Molyneux, Paul Joseph Watson, Steven Crowder, Rebel Media and Sargon from Akkad. These YouTube channels are highly recommended. There's no political correct filter, and instead you get real facts, deep analysis and big picture-observations. Unfortunately, they recently lost most of their ad revenue, because of fake news in mainstream media (originated from Wall Street Journal) about "racists and nazi videos" with big corporation ads on them - like the fake PewDiePie story (where WSJ also called up various corporations, and encouraged them to drop their ads). Simply a hit job on new media, nothing else.

Once you discover the kind of journalism I just mentioned, you'll never be able to take CNN og co serious again. Also, several of the guys I mentioned make lots of witty observations and funny videos (like Steven Crowder and Paul J. Watson).
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I'll have to give those guys a look. Thank you for posting them. :)

Do you watch Phillip DeFranco? He covers mostly internet news and the occasional big story from the world (probably not the same kind of news covered by the guys that you mentioned). But he's brilliant in front of the camera, no less. And no politically correct crap. Matter of fact, he's actually had ad revenue pulled from some of his videos as a result.
 
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