I am aware. I did the same (very different tech though). I run it all on a pretty sweet FreeBSD-running Raspberry Pi. Love that lil thing. :')
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Facebook Uses IP Address and Other Info to Deliver Location-Based Ads Even When Location Options are Disabled
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Firefox and Chrome aside, have any of you done leak tests on Safari when it comes to WebRTC?
I do multiple tests a day, and haven’t had any leaking with WebRTC.
I just tried it on Mojave and Safari 12. with VPN.. pia webrtc test doesn't leak. https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/helpdesk/kb/articles/what-can-be-done-about-webrtc-issues
"If you are using a VPN or a Proxy and you would like to test this WebRTC Local IP leak, you can visit this page."
I was with friends Sunday and we were drinking Josh wine and just talking about it. No one typed anything into a phone or took pictures, yet today I had an ad for Josh wine in my Instagram feed...
Facebook isn't really tracking your location in this case, it's tracking the location of the IP address. Most IP addresses happen to be pretty stable, so it works.
Wait, I dislike Facebook, but this is nothing new. Serving ads based on your IP is nothing special. Everybody does it. Go look at Gooogle ads, and pretty much all ads on the internet.
Heck, Google use your IP to pinpoint your account region when you create a Google account.
It’s funny if you are so “outraged” about this, yet turn a blind eye on the numerous more creepy things Facebook is doing.
Heck, Google use your IP to pinpoint your account region when you create a Google account.
It’s funny if you are so “outraged” about this, yet turn a blind eye on the numerous more creepy things Facebook is doing.
I'm so sorry, but you may be lost. This is MacRumors, a tech site. The Dr. Phil Family site where you can play amateur psychologist is listed below for your enjoyment:
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IP location discovery existed as long as the Internet did - this is not specific to Facebook. It is also not a person tracking thing (as few devices these days have their own dedicated IP v4 address) but instead tracking of a general fixed location of that IP address (for example my IP address is pinpointed to about 50 miles away because that's where my ISP is based).
Zuckerberg will stop at nothing to monitor people.. This is why I hate Facebook and have urged many Ukrainians in my area to stop using it - one because zuckerberg stands for globalism.
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Zuckerberg and Facebook can't be trusted.. this is the goal of globalism - to take your identity and facebook is one of them.
They can track you even without you having the app, after clearing your browser cookies and never logging in again, etc. They have ad profiles for people that have never had a facebook account.
The only way to truly keep them from tracking you is hosts file redirects and/or ad blocker blocking all of their domains.
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I can tell you one problem with it....IP tracking combined with extremely specific profiles built by Facebook, allowing a foreign adversary to target specific groups of people, with the intent on swaying a presidential election.
There isn't any need for that extensive level of knowledge of your audience. It's a want, not a need. The system has been horribly abused, and it's time for Congress to write legislation for it.
Chances are - Facebook will still have a way of forming a profile of you even if you don’t use their service, simply by virtue of your social circle who do. Just by their photos and posts, I won’t be surprised if Facebook has a way of extrapolating details of yourself.
Assuming you live with and travel with your wife and she tags you (even just writing your name in) photos or locations, you're implicated by proxy. Use Facebook once and have a browser or app logged into it that you never go back to with loved ones tagging media of you on the service, you're being tracked and still being profiled by their algorithms. I don't let my girlfriend put photos of us on social media. It adds no value to my life at all for her to validate herself with photos of us together. We have picture frames around the house and we go to family functions together. people are aware of what I look like.
You’re right haven’t a clue on what you use, doesn’t matter. I do know there are 1000’s of well paid good and bad people around the world who’s only job is to crack everything that’s connected to the internet. Your only protection from the private sector is the lack of interest in boring individuals when there is serious money elsewhere, except script kiddies. Many state level employees , on the other hand love cracking open source encryption products every build to have a catalog of intrusion exploits, not to mention participating in the builds. The code scrubbed Vault 7 papers from Snowden is an example of this.
I am sure Instagram is doing the same and also using WhatsApp data even tho they claim they don’t. It’s no coincidence that I spent like an hour at a shoe store and all of the sudden I get lots of shoe ads the same day or I talk with a friend about something excessively on WhatsApp and suddenly I get heaps of ads regarding this topic
I never have had a FB account, run a iOS blocker app still many websites, including this one sets Facebook cookies in safari. Don’t really care because a reset safari often, and cookies are not a serious level of tracking.
“We use city and zip level location which we collect from IP addresses and other information such as check-ins and current city from your profile...”
While I get that it’s popular to jump on the Facebook bashing bandwagon (and I certainly don’t agree with everything they’ve done) I guess I don’t see the issue here. Check-ins and your current city are both optional pieces of information provided by the customer. IP address zip code data is literally accessible by any website on the internet via your IP address (that’s how you get ads “find singles in [your town]”). Heck, I’ve even seen people with signatures on this very forum that display that same info, as well as the browser, OS version, etc via the UserAgent string. This is mostly an attempt to fear monger to the general public which has a very limited understand about how basic web technology works.
While I get that it’s popular to jump on the Facebook bashing bandwagon (and I certainly don’t agree with everything they’ve done) I guess I don’t see the issue here. Check-ins and your current city are both optional pieces of information provided by the customer. IP address zip code data is literally accessible by any website on the internet via your IP address (that’s how you get ads “find singles in [your town]”). Heck, I’ve even seen people with signatures on this very forum that display that same info, as well as the browser, OS version, etc via the UserAgent string. This is mostly an attempt to fear monger to the general public which has a very limited understand about how basic web technology works.
If you've noticed Facebook continuing to deliver location-based ads even with all location services disabled, you're not alone, and that's because Facebook continues to use data like your IP address to determine your location for ad delivery purposes.
Facebook's lack of an option to disable location tracking for ad targeting was highlighted in a Medium post shared today by Aleksandra Korolova, assistant professor of Computer Science at USC.
Korolova noticed that Facebook was continuing to provide location-based ads even after she disabled Location History, turned off the location services option for Facebook on her iOS devices, and removed her city from her profile. She didn't upload photos, tag herself at certain locations, or check in, nor does she allow WhatsApp, Instagram, and Facebook Messenger to access her location.As it turns out, and as Facebook explains on its ads page, it is collecting location data based on "where you connect to the Internet" and "where you use your phone," aka your IP address, Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth data. As Korolova points out, Facebook does not explain that turning off all location services will not stop Facebook from "going to great lengths to obtain and use location data for advertising."
Facebook does not make it a secret that it is using IP addresses and other information for ad targeting, but most people are likely not aware that their locations are still being tracked in this way even after disabling location tracking settings.
Facebook, Korolova argues, should do better, because the locations that a person visits and lives in can reveal a lot about them, and that's info that any Facebook advertiser can take advantage of through ads. Facebook should be providing "meaningful" tools over the location information that it's collecting, rather than options to disable location services that don't actually mean anything because location data is still being collected over IP address.
In statements provided to Gizmodo, Facebook confirmed that it's using IP information for location tracking purposes and that there's no way for users to turn off location tracking entirely.
"There is no way for people to opt out of using location for ads entirely," a Facebook spokesperson told Gizmodo. "We use city and zip level location which we collect from IP addresses and other information such as check-ins and current city from your profile to ensure we are providing people with a good service--from ensuring that they see Facebook in the right language to making sure that they are shown nearby events and ads for businesses that are local to them."
If you use Facebook, there is no way to prevent Facebook from tracking location, except perhaps by enabling a VPN at all times. Quitting Facebook and deleting the app entirely is the only way to make sure the site isn't tracking you, and even then, Facebook has "shadow profiles" with data on people who don't even use the social network.
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Not saying DuckDuckGo is not a viable alternative, but the DuckDuckGo CEO Gabriel Weinberg used to own this website which was a questionable site: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_Database. In addition, they got caught with a tracking cookie 5 years ago, https://archive.is/qntuk. I believe instead of tracking cookies, they are now sending tracking pixels. They claim it's for user behavior and contains no confidential data.
The important thing to understand is that the internet is public, and trust is a relative thing.
You are exactly correct and we have this discussion every time we go somewhere and she posts details.
In an ideal world maybe, but I had to get an FB account for school in Taiwan. Every year has a page,
and teachers use it to decimate assignments, class information, vital admin announcements blab blah.
Don't know if this is done in other places, but some times you don't have the uninstall option.
This was a four years ago, so i could get away with a fake name, and bio. Nowadays, FB requires verifiable proof of ID, like passport, drivers license, birth certificate etc. Can you imagine! Just to
exchange photos of your drooling brat, or some random dumb a** comment or two?
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This is the nice thing about using a VPN. I get targeted ads but none of them are anywhere close to where I live. And when I say nowhere close, I'm talking out of state close.
But still you get fooled by FB. As long you support them, nothing will change. Some services like Google Search clearly can hardly be avoided, FB surely is none of them.