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I'm not sure why you continue to spread misconceptions about the iPhone X on the iPhone forum. I know you are in disapproval of touch ID being removed, but you blatantly spreading false information is predominantly often and is Not changing anyone's perception.
For real dudes a joke idk why he isn’t banned
 
That's technically infeasible. It can only get worse.

Ladies and gents.... we have an official Face ID hater over here.
Wonder if he has even ever used it at all??
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Could you elaborate on that? My experience matches the OP. It seems to work more quickly than it did initially.

I’d be curious to know why it “can only get worse.”

I smell a troll. Look at his signature.
 
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Makes sense :)

In a related concept, I'm wondering about transitions - like if you have no facial hair, and slowly grow a huge hipster beard, the ML should incrementally adjust for the hair, some facial contours being obscured, etc. However, if you did an initial setup with a clean shave, used the device for a week - then didn't use it for a month, came back like Grizzly Adams, would the difference be so great it couldn't "connect the dots" so to speak.
 
In a related concept, I'm wondering about transitions - like if you have no facial hair, and slowly grow a huge hipster beard, the ML should incrementally adjust for the hair, some facial contours being obscured, etc. However, if you did an initial setup with a clean shave, used the device for a week - then didn't use it for a month, came back like Grizzly Adams, would the difference be so great it couldn't "connect the dots" so to speak.
You'd imagine it wouldn't recognize...
But there isn't a cat in hell's chance that anyone wouldn't see their phone (X of all) for that long :D
 
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In a related concept, I'm wondering about transitions - like if you have no facial hair, and slowly grow a huge hipster beard, the ML should incrementally adjust for the hair, some facial contours being obscured, etc. However, if you did an initial setup with a clean shave, used the device for a week - then didn't use it for a month, came back like Grizzly Adams, would the difference be so great it couldn't "connect the dots" so to speak.

I think the device requires a password after 48 hours without logging in with a Face ID anyway, so hard to test out. My understand is it adjusts to incremental changes, but who knows what means. I set it up Day 1 and Day 2 asked it to recognize me with a toque pulled down to my eyebrows and aviator sunglasses. It did.
 
I think the device requires a password after 48 hours without logging in with a Face ID anyway, so hard to test out. My understand is it adjusts to incremental changes, but who knows what means. I set it up Day 1 and Day 2 asked it to recognize me with a toque pulled down to my eyebrows and aviator sunglasses. It did.

You'd simply side step FaceID, let it do a passcode only "reactivation" after 48 hours, sleep it, try Face ID :)

Anyway, FaceID has been outstanding for me. It worked outside this weekend in intense [Orlando, FL] sunlight, inside line queues, in a couple of attractions (one with funky blue light and I was wearing 3D glasses), and when I swam up, under water, to the edge of the pool, checked my phone (pounded the last of my beverage :D) I was especially stoked about the water resistance these past few days (even though I realize that's not exclusive to the X).
 
nyway, FaceID has been outstanding for me. It worked outside this weekend in intense [Orlando, FL] sunlight, inside line queues, in a couple of attractions (one with funky blue light and I was wearing 3D glasses), and when I swam up, under water, to the edge of the pool, checked my phone (pounded the last of my beverage :D)
Don't rub it in right? It's freakin cold here in London :D

But seriously, the machine learning stuff is intriguing.
Apparently, the Google Pixel camera (last year's model) is taking better photos this year due to the same tech..seems it has 'learned' from all the data accumulated over the year!
 
except when i'm in bed and my face is half covered by my pillow

This is a thing, and it will never work like that. A lot of people will have this issue. Checking when in a drowsy state will be problematic. However, one way to circumvent this would be to have a 'nighttime timer', or an easy way to turn it off or on. (They also could allow a second mode for this specific thing, some how).

Maybe there is a way, I just haven't found it.
 
You'd simply side step FaceID, let it do a passcode only "reactivation" after 48 hours, sleep it, try Face ID :)

Anyway, FaceID has been outstanding for me. It worked outside this weekend in intense [Orlando, FL] sunlight, inside line queues, in a couple of attractions (one with funky blue light and I was wearing 3D glasses), and when I swam up, under water, to the edge of the pool, checked my phone (pounded the last of my beverage :D) I was especially stoked about the water resistance these past few days (even though I realize that's not exclusive to the X).

Yes, good point.

I have also found Face ID outstanding. Super impressed with it. At first it did not work at some of the stranger angles, but not is seems to (using the fail, then passcode option)...so much so I am already on the home screen before I realize I am trying to unlock at an odd angle.

So basically, you recreated the Apple advertisement, plus tasty beverage? Awesome!

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I tried this today by covering my mouth and letting it fail, then entering my pass code, then trying again but it still does not let me in?? I thought the machine learning would take effect
 
You'd simply side step FaceID, let it do a passcode only "reactivation" after 48 hours, sleep it, try Face ID :)

Anyway, FaceID has been outstanding for me. It worked outside this weekend in intense [Orlando, FL] sunlight, inside line queues, in a couple of attractions (one with funky blue light and I was wearing 3D glasses), and when I swam up, under water, to the edge of the pool, checked my phone (pounded the last of my beverage :D) I was especially stoked about the water resistance these past few days (even though I realize that's not exclusive to the X).

Same experience here. Face ID is an unqualified improvement for me. Logging into password secured dapps without having to do anything else is amazing.
 
I tried this today by covering my mouth and letting it fail, then entering my pass code, then trying again but it still does not let me in?? I thought the machine learning would take effect

The learning process is very incremental and there is core understanding of "facial content", and how it changes over time.
 
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In a related concept, I'm wondering about transitions - like if you have no facial hair, and slowly grow a huge hipster beard, the ML should incrementally adjust for the hair, some facial contours being obscured, etc. However, if you did an initial setup with a clean shave, used the device for a week - then didn't use it for a month, came back like Grizzly Adams, would the difference be so great it couldn't "connect the dots" so to speak.

It would probably fail to authenticate at first, but after typing in your passcode it'd augment that data with your enrolled face data so that it wouldn't happen again. At least that's what I'd guess would happen. Maybe it wouldn't fail at all and would just know it's you regardless of your new crazy beard.
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This is a thing, and it will never work like that. A lot of people will have this issue. Checking when in a drowsy state will be problematic. However, one way to circumvent this would be to have a 'nighttime timer', or an easy way to turn it off or on. (They also could allow a second mode for this specific thing, some how).

Maybe there is a way, I just haven't found it.

Mine learned this over the course of a few days. Now authenticates me even if my face is pushed halfway into my pillow.
 
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