iPhone 11 Pro FaceID v3.0 = Touch ID finally in performance?

UBS28

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So according to Apple, they say that the iPhone 11 Pro has improved angles for Face ID. Does that mean I can finally have Face ID that works when it is on my desk, rather than me having to lean over it like with the iPhone X?
 
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The fact that Apple will be adopting in-display fingerprint in 2020 or 2021 hints at what Apple thinks vs. what Apple marketing says.
 

Mr.Blacky

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The fact that Apple will be adopting in-display fingerprint in 2020 or 2021 hints at what Apple thinks vs. what Apple marketing says.
It's amazing to see, that there are still people who think to know, that Apple quickly developed FaceID as a secondary solution, because they couldn't get in-screen TouchID right.
Where is the "fact" in-screen TouchID is coming?
 
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It's amazing to see, that there are still people who think to know, that Apple quickly developed FaceID as a secondary solution, because they couldn't get in-screen TouchID right.
Where is the "fact" in-screen TouchID is coming?
The fact that the two most credible and accurate Apple analysts have said so.
 
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JPack

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Chances are the in-display reader is for their lower end phones.
The TrueDepth camera module is estimated to cost $13.50 in the iPhone XS. The low-cost iPhone next year is expected to have a Home button. I would say the "cost" angle doesn't add up given what we know.
 

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Though I found TouchID pretty good, it's not a patch on FaceID. Was out in the sun walking the dog yesterday and instant unlock with shades on.
 

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It’s brilliant on the X. Can only be better on the 11.

Speed of detection/animation match that of the iPad Pro 11” now.
 

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It’s same as Xs max the iOS 13 is the difference in speed angles are same as well
 

MadCar

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Many are young on here and the population shift is getting older. Ask someone who is older to use touch ID and look at there hands.

They have virtually no fingerprint, for them and this demographic Face ID is perfect.
 

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Many are young on here and the population shift is getting older. Ask someone who is older to use touch ID and look at there hands.

They have virtually no fingerprint, for them and this demographic Face ID is perfect.
That is true. My mother falls in that demography and TouchID is useless for her. im excited to hand my Xs Max down to her this weekend.
 
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I for one love FaceID, it works pretty well for me more than TouchID did.
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What? That doesn’t make any sense.
It makes perfect sense, gets rid of the home button, full screen with small bezels without the cost of Face ID.

Apple aren’t going to go on about how secure Face ID is on their flagship phones only to go back to a fingerprint reader.
 

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So according to Apple, they say that the iPhone 11 Pro has improved angles for Face ID. Does that mean I can finally have Face ID that works when it is on my desk, rather than me having to lean over it like with the iPhone X?
It's not v3.0. It's not even v2.0 It's just been slightly upgraded.
 

Mike82

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It makes perfect sense, gets rid of the home button, full screen with small bezels without the cost of Face ID.

Apple aren’t going to go on about how secure Face ID is on their flagship phones only to go back to a fingerprint reader.
So you think a lower end iPhone will have a full screen display while the higher end will still have a notch of some sort? Seems unlikely to me.
 

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Face ID is a superior methodology over fingerprint for multiple reasons:

1. As you age your prints wear down and may become unreadable.
2. Depending on your profession damage to fingerprints can also cause them to become unreadable.
3. I had a student who played with liquid nitrogen when young and her fingerprints are unreadable.
4. The belief of everyone having a unique fingerprint is a fallacy and actually isn’t rooted in science. It’s a belief that’s been held on far too long. Might as well believe in phrenology.

Face ID is far better at protecting what’s important to you.
 
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sky87

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Many are young on here and the population shift is getting older. Ask someone who is older to use touch ID and look at there hands.

They have virtually no fingerprint, for them and this demographic Face ID is perfect.
My mom had an iPhone 7 and was never able to use the touch ID feature due to fingerprint issues, so she always had to key in her passcode each time she wanted to use her phone. She just switched to an iPhone XR and face ID works great for her.

For myself - touch ID was faster, but I can live with face ID on my X (and I still get a bit of a thrill seeing the lock unlock when I look at my phone).
 

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I for one love FaceID, it works pretty well for me more than TouchID did.
Same. FaceID works MUCH, MUCH better for me that TouchID ever has. I've owned multiple iPhones & iPads with TouchID over the years and ALL of them sucked. I always had to try TouchID multiple times and ended up having to enter my passcode probably 30-50% of the time. Must be my fingers or something. But I've never had an issue with FaceID at all.
 

CE3

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There’s no improving Face ID. It’s flawed and will never be perfect. Touch ID, on the other hand, is the best Apple invention, and billions of people can’t wait for its return.
I prefer Touch ID but I've had no issues with Face ID on the XR. It works as well Touch ID did for me, and no wet finger issues now. I even keep my selfie cam covered most of the time, so it's just using the IR camera.