Seriously, you shouldn't be using your phone when you are driving. The world can wait for you to get to your destination. Remember, you are paying the bill, not the people sending the messages... they can wait.
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FaceID while driving & accidents
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Point taken. In places where they don’t have the law yet obviously adding that law is an important first step.
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I never said anyone should be using their phone while they drive.
I have a use case that I think would be hampered by face id: while driving, I like to let Siri read to me any text message that comes in. It does that so I don’t have to look at the phone, nice and safe, right? Well: Siri always says “you’ll need to unlock your iPhone first”. First of all, why can’t they make it recognize my voice and take THAT as an unlock similar to how it does for “hey Siri”? Secondly, on my iPhone 8 I can simply rest my thumb on the button while keeping eyes on the road.
Are you speculating here or do you have evidence to back that claim up? How do you know the laws aren't keeping things from being even worse? How do you know that without the laws, those numbers wouldn't jump to 50,000+? I'd love to see some proof of that because it sounds like nonsense to me.
Australia had motorcycle mounted police officers with camera on their helmets lane splitting at traffic lights and pinging every single person on the phone.
Things like average speed cameras and speed cameras in general I disagree with as they do nothing to kerb actual road trauma, but this wass one move I was all for. I wish they'd do it more often.
Anything that takes your attention away from the road is horribly bad, it's not hard to comprehend why.
My car is from 1977 and has no form of sat nav, yet I manage without it. It's not hard.
More/harsher laws don't work after a point, and laws that aren't absolute or are too open to interpretation are equally as bad, as they put -too- much power into the law upholder. $400 fine and 3 points for touching a phone, any phone, while in control of a car is neither of those. It's pretty simple, you're driving a car - So friggin' drive. You're not that important. If you were, somebody else would be driving for you.
Things like average speed cameras and speed cameras in general I disagree with as they do nothing to kerb actual road trauma, but this wass one move I was all for. I wish they'd do it more often.
Anything that takes your attention away from the road is horribly bad, it's not hard to comprehend why.
My car is from 1977 and has no form of sat nav, yet I manage without it. It's not hard.
More/harsher laws don't work after a point, and laws that aren't absolute or are too open to interpretation are equally as bad, as they put -too- much power into the law upholder. $400 fine and 3 points for touching a phone, any phone, while in control of a car is neither of those. It's pretty simple, you're driving a car - So friggin' drive. You're not that important. If you were, somebody else would be driving for you.
I don't have any stats on driving and driving before it was illegal but in the last twenty years its been up and down. How can it go up, even for a year, if laws always made things safer? It cant and people will still continue to do stupid things regardless.
Traffic laws do make a difference in regards to putting a majority of people off breaking them though, especially drink driving. Sure you’re going to get idiots ignoring it but they’ve made most people consider what they are doing and deaths have reduced as a result. More needs to be done to tackle phone use behind the wheel though and if the punishment was the same as drink driving I think we’d see a dramatic reduction in deaths too.
This isn't even CLOSE to the biggest problem.
The most disconcerting common issue remains: What if a criminal mastermind escapes prison, steals my face (or worse, swaps it for his!), steals my phone, and then uses my own face to access my family photos???
You people and your silly "crash while driving and using Face ID" theories are just too far out in left field in my opinion. Try to keep things grounded in reality. Like:
What if my long lost evil twin emerges from the shadows, kidnaps me, and supplants me in my life? What if only my dog notices, but he can only bark? My wife *thinks* something is amiss, but sees my evil twin using Face ID and figures that it has to be me, otherwise why would it work? WHY? Meanwhile I'm drowning in an abandoned warehouse water tank, and thanks to Face ID no one is the wiser!!!
Thanks a LOT Face ID!!!
The most disconcerting common issue remains: What if a criminal mastermind escapes prison, steals my face (or worse, swaps it for his!), steals my phone, and then uses my own face to access my family photos???
You people and your silly "crash while driving and using Face ID" theories are just too far out in left field in my opinion. Try to keep things grounded in reality. Like:
What if my long lost evil twin emerges from the shadows, kidnaps me, and supplants me in my life? What if only my dog notices, but he can only bark? My wife *thinks* something is amiss, but sees my evil twin using Face ID and figures that it has to be me, otherwise why would it work? WHY? Meanwhile I'm drowning in an abandoned warehouse water tank, and thanks to Face ID no one is the wiser!!!
Thanks a LOT Face ID!!!
I know. Totally agree. People should not be using their phone while they drive. However, people are dumb so they do it anyway. So on that basis it’s possible that Face ID will make that practice even more dangerous.
I'm always amazed to get into someone's car, in the town or city where they live, and see them fire up turn based navigation. Has the availability of turn-based navigation allowed some of us to avoid ever learning basic wayfinding?
I will use navigation for traveling in places I'm not familiar with, but I don't do that very often. And quite often I can look at the map before I leave and get to my destination just fine without turn-based navigation. When my family is traveling together, my wife and I take turns driving and navigating. It's amazing how often the turn-based stuff steers you wrong... especially when there are many options (some good and some terrible) to get through a congested area. If I'm by myself, I set it up before I leave and then it taps my Apple Watch to alert me to upcoming turns.
These days I know that many people use apps like Waze on their daily commute... not for directions, but to send them traffic alerts or to suggest alternate routes based on crowdsourced traffic information. While Waze does warn you that it should not be used while driving, the very concept encourages you to engage with the app by posting warnings about traffic congestion, police speed traps, dangers on the road, etc. You can even text other Wazers who are traveling in your vicinity to see if they can give you more detail about what's happening ahead. This is all well and good when you have a passenger using the app, but how many Wazers are running their own detailed morning traffic report from behind the wheel? Waze is one of those things that is a great idea, and my wife and I have used the app very successfully for navigating traffic in cities we are visiting like Los Angeles and Seattle, but it's also an app that is ripe for abuse.
As you say, it's possible to get around without such conveniences, but humans have a knack for finding ways to multitask while driving. When I was learning to drive in the 1980's, I remember the warnings about applying makeup or using an electric shaver while driving, but the biggest warning targeting young drivers (apart from don't drink and drive) was to stop fiddling with the radio or fishing for cassette tapes under the seat. Back then you would occasionally see people unfolding giant paper maps while driving, or reading a novel while driving in heavy freeway traffic. I know it sucks to live and work in a place where you might spend an hour or more driving in heavy traffic (I did that for about two years), but listening to a podcast or an audiobook is a much safer way to deal with it. Even in my small city, where most car trips are under 15 minutes, people seem to have a hard time making it from A to B without texting. I get around mostly by bicycle, so I pay close attention to what drivers are focusing on... because I really need them to see me. That's why I'm all for officer's enforcing distracted driving laws.
Sean
Your to late, The Face off movie was already brought up. It was not determined if it will work or not though
Maybe this is just Apple helping Darwin along. Let's get all of these idiots really focusing on their phones as they're screaming down the interstate. 
[doublepost=1537305502][/doublepost]You are not supposed to use a phone while driving. But there is one thing that you do need your phone for while driving and that is navigation or mapping apps. When you need directions to get from point A to point B, unlocking your phone while driving does happen and would cause the potential for an accident to occur just like texting and driving. Sure you could just stop the car and unlock the phone with your face. But realistically, not many people will do that unless stopped at a red light. So it's not a moot point when a necessary app is required and can't stop if say, you're on the highway.
I have never had a phone screen lock while using navigation.
Who said anything about while you have the app open? Just opening the app itself requires a person to unlock the iPhone first. Using your face rather the a finger print to unlock the phone is frankly more dangerous.
Why, you should do it before you start driving... I pull over all the time to answer calls, respond to important texts and enter a new location for navigation. Small price to pay when the alternative is getting into an accident or possibly killing my self or someone else
Of course that would be the ideal situation. However, that may not always be feasible. Sometimes you don't know you need help with directions until after you start driving. Or you simply forget to unlock prior to starting to drive. There could be a million and one reasons why you wouldn't think to unlock prior to driving. The point is, in those situations you would put yourself in a precarious situation.
Pulling over around here extends your commute by 10-15 minutes at least, lol.
It's ALWAYS feasible to be safe. People shouldn't mess with their phones while driving. It's that simple. If you think you have an exception to the rule, no you don't and please get off the damn road. Forgetting to unlock your phone isn't a valid reason to mess with your phone while driving. Forgetting to setup maps isn't a valid reason to mess with your phone while driving. An extremely important text or call is not a valid reason to mess with your phone while driving. If you want to be stupid, play Russian Roulette. At least that way you're not putting the lives around you in danger too.