FaceTime over 3G comes with iOS 5?

[chevy57]

The most observant of you surely remember the words of Steve Jobs when, about a year ago, presented FaceTime, the new service from Apple that make video calls from the device IOS, at first only fourth-generation iPhone. With a little 'amazement, it turned out, indeed it was the same Steve Jobs to announce that FaceTime would have been a feature WiFi only "throughout 2010. At the end of the fifth month of 2011, one wonders if the new iOS 5 things will change.

Certainly almost no one expected that FaceTime also on the 3G network could be introduced without a major upgrade of IOS, which could then update to match its new5.0 firmware that Apple will be presented June 6 on the stage of the Moscone Center during the Keynote d ' opening of the WWDC 2011.

Could FaceTime on 3G as one of five new IOS? Very likely. Technically, Apple could implement this function from the beginning. However, to ensure that users always have as an efficient and precise, he preferred to wait and launch FaceTime only WiFi to test primarily the use by users and also to assess the prevalence (FaceTime could initially be used only between 4 iPhone , then also on your Mac, iPod touch and fourth-generation iPad 2), which was limited by its need to be connected to a WiFi network for video calls another contact.

Apple has nevertheless proved to be very careful with regard to this technologyhas been improved with every new iPhone firmware update, both internally and through integration with other applications on Mac and implementing the new cam in HD on newer models models . Precisely for this reason, given also the good results obtained by FaceTime on 3G iPhone on jailbroken (thanks to programs such as 3G Unrestrictor available via Cydia), there would be no surprise that in 2011, just 5 with IOS, Apple will allow users to FaceTime is used in WiFi on 3G.

If this happens, Apple users could hypothetically video calls to each other completely free of charge. However, it remains to understand what might be the response of the Italian telephone operators faced with a similar solution that both recalls the VoIP, certainly not loved by some, and what the actual traffic flow data users.

Recalling the words of Steve Jobs " FaceTime will only work on WiFi for 2010 "we are quite confident that Apple can implement iOS 5 video in the long-awaited 3G iPhone and iPad 2.

http://www.limesn0w.us/2011/05/facetime-in-3g-finally-comes-with-ios-5.html

I hope FaceTime over 3G comes with iOS 5. not requesting Jailbreak. I will find out about WWDC on June 6.

 

[grantsdale]

I hope FaceTime over 3G comes with iOS 5. not requesting Jailbreak. I will find out about WWDC on June 6.

FaceTime on 3G has more to do with carrier support than anything else. Even if Apple (officially) allows the feature doesn't mean your carrier will allow it.

 

[chevy57]

FaceTime on 3G has more to do with carrier support than anything else. Even if Apple (officially) allows the feature doesn't mean your carrier will allow it.

Other video chat like Tango, Skype, Fring, and ooVoo have both 3G and WiFi to use but carriers don't allow FaceTime over 3G. Why? Unfair!

 

[nateo200]

Inb4 FaceTime rapes Verizon's EVDO network. I'm not sure anyone understands this but Verizon's 3G network has reached it's limits speed wise and there is no more way to improve speed unless they start rolling out EVDO rev B (9.3MB/s downlink) which the iPhone 4 DOES support along with increasing there already epic fibre backhaul. Check out my thread "PDF your 3G speeds" you'll see how much Verizon is lacking behind.

 

[Surely]

This is a decision that needs to be made by the carriers, not Apple. It's their networks.

 

[deannnnn]

It will come when the iPhone supports 4G-LTE. Never on 3G.

 

[Applejuiced]

Other video chat like Tango, Skype, Fring, and ooVoo have both 3G and WiFi to use but carriers don't allow FaceTime over 3G. Why? Unfair!

I dont see why they couldnt. Its not like everyone is going to sit there and Facetime for hours. People use Skype, Sling, Pandora, the MLB app to watch games and many other data intensive apps.
I dont think Facetime will cause such a drastic increase in traffic.

 

[JASApplications]

I hope so but I doubt it.

 

[lsvtecjohn3]

Other video chat like Tango, Skype, Fring, and ooVoo have both 3G and WiFi to use but carriers don't allow FaceTime over 3G. Why? Unfair!

I'd bet most people with iP4 don't have any of those apps and carriers know that. A lot of people think the only way to video chat on the iPhone is to use FaceTime.

 

[nateo200]

I dont see why they couldnt. Its not like everyone is going to sit there and Facetime for hours. People use Skype, Sling, Pandora, the MLB app to watch games and many other data intensive apps.
I dont think Facetime will cause such a drastic increase in traffic.

Those are small time apps and even though pandora is big there is no video. The idea of FaceTime is like an integrated part of the phone dialer meaning EVERYONE will have access to it just like the phone and it will be viewed as always there and not a paid app or something. I think FaceTime over 3G should be like tethering. Something carriers can choose to enable or disable in network settings or if we really want to get nit-picky choose WHERE you can use FaceTime based on where verizon thinks it has a strong EVDO network by using GPS. Just some suggestions.

 

[RafaelT]

I don't understand why people are supporting the carriers having control over this. If it is up to them it will never happen unless they can charge us extra for it.

Facetime would be using data... we already pay for the data on that device. If Apple can get Facetime to perform up to their standards over a 3G connection then it should be enabled.

 

[nateo200]

I don't understand why people are supporting the carriers having control over this. If it is up to them it will never happen unless they can charge us extra for it.

Facetime would be using data... we already pay for the data on that device. If Apple can get Facetime to perform up to their standards over a 3G connection then it should be enabled.

The problem is if the carriers can't handle it then the quality will be ****. That gives Apple a bad rep...don't you remember when AT&T was at its worse (depends on the area) and people would dish at the iPhone for the service provider?

 

[Blorzoga]

This post was obviously translated and poorly at that. It makes little sense.

 

[Applejuiced]

Those are small time apps and even though pandora is big there is no video. The idea of FaceTime is like an integrated part of the phone dialer meaning EVERYONE will have access to it just like the phone and it will be viewed as always there and not a paid app or something. I think FaceTime over 3G should be like tethering. Something carriers can choose to enable or disable in network settings or if we really want to get nit-picky choose WHERE you can use FaceTime based on where verizon thinks it has a strong EVDO network by using GPS. Just some suggestions.

Viewing Youtube videos, or watching TV on your phone for hours using Sling or Netflix would consume much more data than doing facetime calls IMO.
I dont know but I dont think it would be such a big deal when it comes to bandwith. Same thing with Sling that was first released only for Wifi use but they eventually let it stream your TV content over carrier data.
Just because its available it doesnt mean people will Facetime eachother all the time and for long periods of time. I have a JB iphone 4 and can do Facetime Over 3G now and I use it maybe a few times a week. I usually run it over Wifi cause its available most places I visit.

 

[nateo200]

Viewing Youtube videos, or watching TV on your phone for hours using Sling or Netflix would consume much more data than doing facetime calls IMO.
I dont know but I dont think it would be such a big deal when it comes to bandwith. Same thing with Sling that was first released only for Wifi use but they eventually let it stream your TV content over carrier data.
Just because its available it doesnt mean people will Facetime eachother all the time and for long periods of time. I have a JB iphone 4 and can do Facetime Over 3G now and I use it maybe a few times a week. I usually run it over Wifi cause its available most places I visit.

But there is still the latency issue...Real time services need like 0 latency to run well....200-400ms Latency seams to be the average I see on all carriers (correct me if I'm wrong) and that is just horrible for FaceTime..my home wifi is sitting at 150ms and that is even bad for my standards.

 

[Applejuiced]

But there is still the latency issue...Real time services need like 0 latency to run well....200-400ms Latency seams to be the average I see on all carriers (correct me if I'm wrong) and that is just horrible for FaceTime..my home wifi is sitting at 150ms and that is even bad for my standards.

I hear you.
Its studders and freezes at times over 3G depending on your connection but its still doable.

 

[nateo200]

I hear you.
Its studders and freezes at times over 3G depending on your connection but its still doable.

Like I get your point and I want it over 3G as well I don't care about quality issues as much as others and I won't go bitching to apple but I can see all the tech articles "Apple's FaceTime studders for success over carriers networks", "FaceTime technical issues, Apple doesn't respond", "FaceTime over carrier data raises questions", "Are 3G networks really ready for FaceTime?", etc.

 

[kaifs]

FaceTime on 3G has more to do with carrier support than anything else. Even if Apple (officially) allows the feature doesn't mean your carrier will allow it.

I know it said 'un-jailbroken', however, my list of apps to have beautiful Face time (at the higher FPS rate also vs. stock app) experience via 3G:
Face Time Mod
FaceBreak
FaceTime Hacktivator
and, of course, My3G

Face Time Mod only works at higher FramePerSecond if it is installed on both iphones using it, which is not an issue since I usually jailbreak and load stuff for my friend anyhow, so it is one of the apps I always load.

 

[Apple...]

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Carriers would probably charge for it as a separate phone feature.

 

[Surely]

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Carriers would probably charge for it as a separate phone feature.

I highly doubt that, especially considering there are other services (ie Skype) that already do video over 3G.

 

[diamond.g]

FaceTime needs 3G support and Windows version to really make it big.

 

[saberahul]

Inb4 FaceTime rapes Verizon's EVDO network. I'm not sure anyone understands this but Verizon's 3G network has reached it's limits speed wise and there is no more way to improve speed unless they start rolling out EVDO rev B (9.3MB/s downlink) which the iPhone 4 DOES support along with increasing there already epic fibre backhaul. Check out my thread "PDF your 3G speeds" you'll see how much Verizon is lacking behind.

Looks like we got a vzw hater on the forums. I have my iPhone JB and use facetime a lot on 3G on verizon... never had any issues with lagging or sound quality or video quality.

 

[xparacha]

If we see a late 2011 or early 2012 launch then it is quite possible that iPhone 5 would be compatible with 4G which would throw the ball in court of carriers if they would like to have this option!

 

[Gav2k]

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Can't see it happening to many people out there with unlimited data like me!

 

[nateo200]

Looks like we got a vzw hater on the forums. I have my iPhone JB and use facetime a lot on 3G on verizon... never had any issues with lagging or sound quality or video quality.

No you just don't know anything other than your personal experience which is null and void in comparison to what we are discussing here. I'm putting down cold hard numbers and facts so people can have a better understanding behind the reasoning of why FaceTime is not currently usable on 3G stock.

Side note I'm curious what carriers that know they can handle it feel about this. For example Bell/Telus and Rogers with there HSPA+ probably have the bandwidth to handle a variety of services strickened to wifi only.