Facetime Requires a Message Plan to Work?!?!?!

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Blorzoga, Jun 25, 2010.

  1. Blorzoga macrumors 68030


    May 21, 2010
    As I was having my iphone 4 activated, the "genius" informed me that Facetime will not work unless you have a message plan with AT&T. Funny how those "free" Facetime chats now cost $5 per month. Again, AT&T and Apple do a bait and switch. Or did they assume everyone had a message plan. I didn't and I still don't. Text messaging is the biggest scam these wireless companies have going. I can send an email with attachments, photos, videos, War & Peace if I want to and it doesn't cost me a nickel. Sent a two letter text message and it will cost me $0.20. If I really want to send a text, there are dozens of free text apps out there. Apparently, when you initiate a facetime call, it sends a text message to the recipient which doesn't count as a text message. So why the hell do you need a plan? Charge me $.20, not $5.00 per month. Blatant false advertising!!!!!
  2. pvmacguy macrumors 65816


    Sep 2, 2009
    Sorry but who ever told you that is sorely mistaken. Initiating a face time call requires wifi which a. you either have in your home or b. readily available to you. Initiating a call via face time button in the contact list or during a telephone call will start the voip connection. There is nothing involving a text message. So no message charges are involved.
  3. Dsr1205 macrumors 6502

    Jan 16, 2008
  4. admanimal macrumors 68040

    Apr 22, 2005
    Actually, Face Time doesn't require your phone to have an active cell connection at all, not even for connecting the call. Of course for now you do need a cell plan on the devices so that they have a phone number associated with them, but again it doesn't need to be connected to make a call. Here's how:

    You can put your phone in Airplane mode but with WiFi on so that there is no active cell connection. Then you just need to place a facetime:// url in a web page or email message that you can click on to initiate the call.

    EDIT: It might also work by using the Facetime button in the contact list...but I have not tried it.
  5. The Californian macrumors 68040

    The Californian

    Jan 17, 2009
    Surfers Paradise
    Hold on a second, let me call someone that can help you.

  6. dhjapple89 macrumors member

    Apr 19, 2010
    Waco, TX
    That genius was wrong. I wanted to see if it needed anything from AT&T to connect a FaceTime call so I put my phone in Airplane mode and turned wifi on. It worked. So you do not need anything from AT&T to use FaceTime wifi is all you need.
  7. wingnut8 macrumors 65816


    Jun 8, 2007

    Get some.
  8. Blorzoga thread starter macrumors 68030


    May 21, 2010
    Well I hope you all are correct about not needing a text plan. I didn't sign up for one I was just repeating what the genius told me. I haunt tried o FaceTime anyone because I don't know any one with a ip4. I'm surprised the guy would just make ***** up.
  9. Moyank24 macrumors 601


    Aug 31, 2009
    in a New York State of mind
    I can attest to this as well. My dad received his iPhone yesterday and today we decided to try Facetime out. When he tried turning it on, it just kept saying activating but never fully turned on.

    He stopped by AT&T and they explained that he needed a text plan (he never had one before) so he just purchased the $5/month plan.

    After setting the plan up, he tried again, and voila, it works.

    First I had heard of that until I saw this post.
  10. Advil macrumors 6502a

    Oct 4, 2008
  11. ChrisGonzales90 macrumors 6502a


    May 29, 2010
    Hillsboro, Oregon USA.
    I guess those so called "geniuses" are not really "geniuses" after all.
  12. admanimal macrumors 68040

    Apr 22, 2005
    It is possible that it needs to send some data over a (hidden) text message to assist in switching the call from standard cellular voice to internet-based FaceTime.

    It doesn't do this if you just initiate call using FaceTime to begin with.

    Someone else in another thread clarified that you do not need to have an actual text messaging plan, you just need text messaging enabled. The person previously had text messaging disabled/blocked completely and couldn't use FaceTime, but now he has enabled them and it works. I guess technically you could call this the pay-per-text plan that is like 20 cents per text, but you don't have to pay for whatever Face Time does with it.
  13. xmtgx macrumors regular

    Jun 21, 2010
    200 baby! Hate texting, I just call anyone who texts me and ask what they want lol
  14. Nebrie macrumors 6502a

    Jan 5, 2002
    Someone just tricked your dad into giving them commission.

    If it needed text messaging, there would be a disclaimer at the bottom of the Facetime page *text messaging charges may apply*

    Call up AT&T and complain and get the charge removed.
  15. DaftDrunk macrumors regular

    Jun 13, 2010
    Through the desert on a horse with no name
    85k, I can feel your jealousy from here. Give up now and kill yourself.
  16. jhuang macrumors member

    Jun 17, 2010
    Hey guys, I tried 1-888-FaceTime today and the rep told me I needed texting enabled. My text was previously restricted, and so the rep told me to call AT&T and get it enabled just for a little. He said in order to enable FaceTime, I had to turn on FaceTime in the settings, which would in turn send a text message to Apple, and then I could restrict text again after that.

    After I switched the button to on, it said "Waiting for activation," so I assumed it was trying to send a text and wasn't receiving a reply back or something like that. I enabled text and rebooted my phone, it no longer said it was waiting and FaceTime then worked. I called back AT&T and restricted my text again and it was fine.. though I haven't tried FaceTime since then.

    I hope this clears things up!
  17. nowstime macrumors regular

    Jul 2, 2008

    How long did you wait for face time to be activated? Just enabled texting and waiting for activation. It's been about 10 minutes...
  18. JayDude132 macrumors 6502

    Jun 10, 2010
    last month i had almost 10k.

    I'm not gonna tell you to suck it or anything though because i know, it's just sad :(

    EDIT: @daftdrunk i know you must be lying. i cant imagine texting any more than i do or i would literally be on my phone non-stop, always typing a message on it. :D lol
  19. Hankster macrumors 68020


    Jan 30, 2008
    Washington DC
    Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_0 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/532.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.5 Mobile/8A293 Safari/6531.22.7)

    Love how people don't do their homework and overreact.
  20. outphase macrumors 65816

    Jun 13, 2009
    Parts Unknown
    I looked at my text messages for some periods where I made facetime calls, and I did not have any marked as sent or received from the people I called. I'm guessing it is one of those "hidden" SMSes like the ones that trigger voicemail alerts.

    I wanted to test this out by taking it a step further. I popped out my sim and was on wifi only. I could neither make or receive a facetime call. As soon as I popped my sim back in, I could then call out.

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