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dropping iDVD???

unless they are going to now include iBluray that could create a DVD that would suck to drop it.
 
I have never even heard of anyone who uses iChat. All of the people I know either use Skype or MSN. I would love to use iChat, but I would have no one to talk to.

If Apple really made iChat available for Windows, it would be an awesome step. However, how is that going to compete with Skype, MSN or Facebook? I hate having two different IM clients open at the same time, it's a waste of resources. If I would have to have iChat running as well, that would be quite confusing.

iChat would have to work with Skype and MSN accounts in order for people to start using it. Until then, we can't really do anything with it. It's like having a futuristic electric car but no place to charge it.

I use it on a weekly basis to video chat with my folks across state so that my son can see his grandparents on a regular basis. And before that when my wife lived 4 hours away due to a job for a whole year, we iChatted every night and then saw each other every weekend in person. iChat has been a savior for my family.
 
My biggest wish for iChat is an integrated contact list, so I won't have to have a separate window for AIM contacts and Gchat contacts. If you could use one window like Adium, I'd probably use iChat more often. Right now I only use iChat if I want to have a video chat or screen sharing session. Otherwise I use Adium.
You can if you install the Chax add-on.
 
It'll take a lot to pry Skype out of the PC world i think.

But i've been wrong before so it'll be interesting but a very smart move.
 
dropping iDVD???

unless they are going to now include iBluray that could create a DVD that would suck to drop it.

There are many softwares that do the job of DVD burning with themes. I've never used iDVD because it was designed to be used in conjunction with the iLife suite. I couldn't just drag and drop my own movies into it like I could with Roxio Toast and Aimersoft DVD Creator.
 
Trickle Up Techonomics

I think it's fascinating how Apple takes the technology from their smallest devices and then trickles them up to their larger more mainstream devices. In a way you'd think it'd go the opposite way but I guess with the relatively new smartphone market there is more room for innovation.

About iChat...it's not as easy to use and setup an account as I'd like it to be. Most everyone that I know uses skype now for video calls. It does make sense though to integrate FaceTime into Macs since the majority of models have webcams built in. :)
 
I use it on a weekly basis to video chat with my folks across state so that my son can see his grandparents on a regular basis. And before that when my wife lived 4 hours away due to a job for a whole year, we iChatted every night and then saw each other every weekend in person. iChat has been a savior for my family.

Same for me. We used to use iChat all the time (when my wife was away). It was a lot easier to use since we had 2 Macs. No need to install any additional applications (ie. Skype). But I can see how PC people say "who uses iChat?".
 
FaceTime for all Macs with webcams and all iOS devices including iPad coming in November. :cool::D
 
It'll take a lot to pry Skype out of the PC world i think.

But i've been wrong before so it'll be interesting but a very smart move.

Skype clawed it's way in against heavy competition too, with the very nice feature set and functionality it offered. FaceTime can do the same if it's managed properly, due to one important function that no other service can offer currently: video chat to the iPhone (in fact, I believe it's the only available video chat for a cell phone, certainly in the US, and will be the only one to offer interoperability with computers). If they pull this off correctly, it'll waste no time in making mincemeat of competitors. Skype will remain, I have no doubt, in large part because of their VoIP offerings, but their importance in the video chat realm could significantly decrease if FaceTime is made available on the PC.

jW
 
Sounds about right. Obviously video chat is more appealing with more compatible video phones.
 
dropping iDVD???

unless they are going to now include iBluray that could create a DVD that would suck to drop it.

It's not a big leap of imagination to see the DVD burning capability ported to the new version of iMovie.
 
There has to be a catch

- Has anyone wonder why Apple didn't make FaceTime compatible with iChat (or iChat compatible with FaceTime) and instead created a whole new application?

- Would you consider it a real surprise having FaceTime replace iDVD in iLife '11?

My personal conclusion about FaceTime for Mac and Windows: It will only be available to MobileMe subscribers. Maybe a featured clipped version may be available to any one, but premium features only to MobileMe subscribers.

I just hate having yet another chat account! :mad:
 
It'll take a lot to pry Skype out of the PC world i think.

But i've been wrong before so it'll be interesting but a very smart move.

All Apple have to do is create the first video chat client that allows easy video chat between phones, macs, ipod touches and windows PCs - that's not offered by anything else out there.
 
- Has anyone wonder why Apple didn't make FaceTime compatible with iChat (or iChat compatible with FaceTime) and instead created a whole new application?

- Would you consider it a real surprise having FaceTime replace iDVD in iLife '11?

My personal conclusion about FaceTime for Mac and Windows: It will only be available to MobileMe subscribers. Maybe a featured clipped version may be available to any one, but premium features only to MobileMe subscribers.

I just hate having yet another chat account! :mad:

iLife is for media creation, faceTime is not an iLife application by any stretch of the imagination.

The new version of iChat, or whatever they call it will be made available to iOS, windows and to mac users and not limited to mobileme - Apple will do all they can to make this a must have feature for everyone and see other manufacturers and service providers adopt this newly published open standard.
 
I have never even heard of anyone who uses iChat. All of the people I know either use Skype or MSN. I would love to use iChat, but I would have no one to talk to.

If Apple really made iChat available for Windows, it would be an awesome step. However, how is that going to compete with Skype, MSN or Facebook? I hate having two different IM clients open at the same time, it's a waste of resources. If I would have to have iChat running as well, that would be quite confusing.

iChat would have to work with Skype and MSN accounts in order for people to start using it. Until then, we can't really do anything with it. It's like having a futuristic electric car but no place to charge it.

This. I'm on adium right now (for Facebook and MSN), but I'd use iChat if it supported MSN. Facetime would just be an added bonus.
 
Skype clawed it's way in against heavy competition too, with the very nice feature set and functionality it offered. FaceTime can do the same if it's managed properly, due to one important function that no other service can offer currently: video chat to the iPhone (in fact, I believe it's the only available video chat for a cell phone, certainly in the US, and will be the only one to offer interoperability with computers). If they pull this off correctly, it'll waste no time in making mincemeat of competitors. Skype will remain, I have no doubt, in large part because of their VoIP offerings, but their importance in the video chat realm could significantly decrease if FaceTime is made available on the PC.

jW

The EVO 4G can do video chats through Qik. There is supposed to be a desktop client coming...
 
mac to mac yes - its great

but add in - iPhone/iPod/iPad as well?




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I've been trying to figure that out, and I don't know that it's going to be huge. We've already had Computer-to-computer video chat for a while. And we've had phone-to-phone for a little while. These have their fans, but I wouldn't call it huge. All this adds is phone-to-computer. That's nice, but not really a game changer.
 
Skype clawed it's way in against heavy competition too, with the very nice feature set and functionality it offered. FaceTime can do the same if it's managed properly, due to one important function that no other service can offer currently: video chat to the iPhone (in fact, I believe it's the only available video chat for a cell phone, certainly in the US, and will be the only one to offer interoperability with computers). If they pull this off correctly, it'll waste no time in making mincemeat of competitors. Skype will remain, I have no doubt, in large part because of their VoIP offerings, but their importance in the video chat realm could significantly decrease if FaceTime is made available on the PC.

jW

Haven't tried this myself, but http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-mobile/download/iphone-for-skype/
 
Apple cannot give Windows users anything. They are born losers and need to stay that way.
 
To start out, for those who don't know, while iChat does support video chat, it's a different video protocol than FaceTime uses.

I already have an iPhone 4, but one question I have is if iChat gets Facetime, if someone wants to video chat with me, how will it know which one to go to? Will the person trying to call me get a window that asks which place they want to contact me? Or will I get a message on each device & choose which one to answer?

Also, I find the number of chatting apps/protocols a little confusing. There's Skype, AIM, FaceTime and regular phone service among a bunch of others. Would be nice if we could standardize on a single technology. Be able to customize it as necessary, but keep it the same for everything else.


Apple cannot give Windows users anything. They are born losers and need to stay that way.
That's harsh. Why do you say that?
 
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