I see. So unless we have a PDF copy of Apples internal sales numbers attached to a company wide email from Tim Cook clearly stating where the aforementioned numbers sit in relation to Apples business objectives we should just not discuss it at all.
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I see. So unless we have a PDF copy of Apples internal sales numbers attached to a company wide email from Tim Cook clearly stating where the aforementioned numbers sit in relation to Apples business objectives we should just not discuss it at all.
The issue here is very simple. You say your opinion without proof, you state it as fact, others say their opinion, with proof, you say there is no proof.
While Apple is caught up in their construct of lies laid open by lawsuit documents and communications or by them stating the opposite from their own website.
There is zero credibility for Apple because already after the first lie, Apple is no longer trustworthy. And they lied multiple times.
What is also the issue here that this is just one example that is reaching mainstream coverage, we don‘t know the actual number that is feeding off unsuspecting App Store users. To believe this is an isolated incident even just this week is naive. If you count down the amount of apps Apple reported they had to remove, you are looking at substantial numbers being allowed into the App Store per hour, and that‘s just the ones who got caught.
We‘ve had countless of these in the past and it will continue happening because there is neither a code review nor that much of an attentian span from reviewers, or they don‘t have enough time and just rush them like Foxconn does iPhones during seasonal hires. Possibly also understaffed as it‘s usually the case in QA departments.
The above mentions are not just an opinion, these are things that Apple themselves reported, and higher up, Apple had to report in court or were caught while speaking in public, which I think was not very smart.
Absolute rubbish. Others state an opinion as fact, without real proof. People don’t know the meaning of proof.
Citation. This is a perfect example of an opinion stated as a fact without proof. What you believe maybe common knowledge may not be or maybe different than you believe. The comment seems like a generalization of a specific event.
For you there is no creditabilty. I’m betting for billions there is.
Which is why Phil Schilller has his own opinion on this.
To believe otherwise is naive, given no actual metrics.
The point is that maybe Schiller has a point. And you have to be careful about “throwing the baby out with the bath water”.
Apple as a public company, if they were found to be lying the government would have a field day with them.
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Again, no proof. Facts were provided.
Internal emails reveal how badly Apple wanted to keep Netflix using in-app purchases
The streaming service still removed them.
www.theverge.com
You can also see here that Apple did not treat developers equally, this was before the 15% was introduced. As highlighted in the article, Apple did a lot just to keep getting a slice off Netflix's IAP.
That is a perfect example when you have all powers in one entitiy and no one regulating them.
So, not rubbish.
Also, Apple's part in declared as illegal anti-poaching practices to keep wages at low levels:
The Internal Emails Big Tech Executives Never Wanted You to See
Congress is demanding that Silicon Valley companies release their internal emails. If history is any guide, we know what to expect: revelations of anti-worker scheming, corporate power plays, and all sorts of other malevolent machinations.
jacobin.com
Real reason for no iMessage on Android (not security):
Internal emails reveal the exact reason Apple won't bring iMessage to Android
When Apple launched iMessage on iPhone a few years ago, it set a new standard for instant messaging experiences on smartphones, effectively killing SMS texting …
bgr.com
Apple's Files app getting boosted to the top in organic rankings, meaning not as an ad, and be displayed when you search for "Dropbox".
Apple admits why its own Files app was ranked first when users searched for competitor Dropbox
“Who green lit putting the Files app above Dropbox”
www.theverge.com
The best emails from the Apple vs. Epic trial
Please peruse this new archive of unearthed knowledge.
www.theverge.com
For everyone aware of the things above there is also no credibility. But keep on trying to hide those from them.
Apple execs discuss why the Mac App Store has not been successful in internal email
Phil Schiller and Tim Cook talk about the state of the Mac App Store in newly revealed internal emails. Gaming, productivity and developer tools are the main pain points of the Mac App Store, according to them. This confirms that Apple executives do read emails from ordinary people. — Apple...
applescoop.org
As you can see above, Phil has already shown all his points behind the curtain so there is no need to pay attention to what he or Apple says in public.
They had, and all the developments these days Apple can only blame themselves for. They abused their position and did not even treat their own eco-system fairly, so regulation is what happens.
You took some snippets and turned them into a conspiracy theory. And not only that, corporations evolve over time, and what they do and how they operate changes. And additionally corporate emails dont document conversations.Again, no proof. Facts were provided.
Internal emails reveal how badly Apple wanted to keep Netflix using in-app purchases
The streaming service still removed them.
You can also see here that Apple did not treat developers equally, this was before the 15% was introduced. As highlighted in the article, Apple did a lot just to keep getting a slice off Netflix's IAP.
That is a perfect example when you have all powers in one entitiy and no one regulating them.
So, not rubbish.
Also, Apple's part in declared as illegal anti-poaching practices to keep wages at low levels:
The Internal Emails Big Tech Executives Never Wanted You to See
Congress is demanding that Silicon Valley companies release their internal emails. If history is any guide, we know what to expect: revelations of anti-worker scheming, corporate power plays, and all sorts of other malevolent machinations.
Real reason for no iMessage on Android (not security):
Internal emails reveal the exact reason Apple won't bring iMessage to Android
When Apple launched iMessage on iPhone a few years ago, it set a new standard for instant messaging experiences on smartphones, effectively killing SMS texting …
Apple's Files app getting boosted to the top in organic rankings, meaning not as an ad, and be displayed when you search for "Dropbox".
Apple admits why its own Files app was ranked first when users searched for competitor Dropbox
“Who green lit putting the Files app above Dropbox”
The best emails from the Apple vs. Epic trial
Please peruse this new archive of unearthed knowledge.
For everyone aware of the things above there is also no credibility. But keep on trying to hide those from them.
His own words. Two pages and zero mention about security when it comes to as to why the App Store "matters".Apple execs discuss why the Mac App Store has not been successful in internal email
Phil Schiller and Tim Cook talk about the state of the Mac App Store in newly revealed internal emails. Gaming, productivity and developer tools are the main pain points of the Mac App Store, according to them. This confirms that Apple executives do read emails from ordinary people. — Apple...
As you can see above, Phil has already shown all his points behind the curtain so there is no need to pay attention to what he or Apple says in public.
They had, and all the developments these days Apple can only blame themselves for. They abused their position and did not even treat their own eco-system fairly, so regulation is what happens.
I know it may come as a shock to some, but companies give special treatment to their biggest customers. This came out years ago before epic when discussing how some coding was put into iOS for Uber. That is business 101 and is nothing new. Out of the millions of developers for iOS (apple) do you think apple is going to say we treat our 10 biggest App Store customers differently. If you consider this a lie that’s your prerogative buts it’s nothing new in big business.
It’s clearly possible to have a lot of facts and still draw an incorrect conclusion.
Bullseye. Corporations often change the terms after buying a product. This time, it's due to legislation.
It's not shocking to me but, knowing that's the case, why is it shocking that some governmental entities design laws that affect the biggest companies operating in their markets? Especially if it's to level the playing field.
So The Verge and all news outlets are just conspiracy theorists ad all the material in court are fake, and what they say in these mails are not true?
It is very easy to understand material and there is no room for interpretation.
That's two lies right there, and connecting right to your point.
Newsflash, you can't be sued for lying but you also cannot expect market intervention if you get caught. Apple got caught and they now have to eat the dessert.
Yes, I definitely see someone qualifying for that.
It’s also due to well because companies change. But yeah bad legislation usually yields bad results.
Level the playing filed by regulation is a Robin Hood’s dream.
There plenty of room for interpretation. Nobody is denying what is written. some take the interpretation and ratchet up the conspiracy theories.
What lies? There are no lies as I explained above.
Yes, dessert is a plate of targeted (bad) regulation by the EU. This would have happened regardless.
For sure, it’s rampant.
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Great that we're all on the same page what a bad regulation is.
So Robin Hood's dream is active in the US because it has regulators?
Your opinion, not a fact.
Your opinion, not a fact.
Your opinion, not a fact.
Your opinion, not a fact.
Yes all these are my opinion as said in every post. Similarly to your opinion that apple lied which is not a fact.
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Nope, they're different events. Apple saying they treat everyone equally then turning around and giving favors to the big players is the very definition of lying. AKA, they don't practice what they preach
Since Phil evidently doesn't even think and say privately what he says publicly (since we saw what he says privately vs what he says publicly), the same can count for everyone else, including the comment section here.
Besides, you can of course always say that you act faily and do good things, but the only fact is that you say it. Whether or not you think it (let alone act by it), is something completely different.
You saw what he emailed in a corporate email Vs what he may speak in private. And you have made the opinion that he lied. Or that apple lies.
That is not my conclusion and this “argument” which is now a meme, has been going around for years.
I think if Tim Apple were to provide a PDF saying that the original revenue goal for the HomePod would be $1 then he would still not question its weight.
edit: At least not here.
Well some proof about how apples take on the sales would settle all questions vs MR posters who seem to criticize apple for criticisms sake who are reading between the lines or relying on a third party spokespersons.
Third parties were the first to acknowledge the Butterfly Keyboard's bad design. There is not more authenticity offered by getting it from the first party, which is Apple.
That is like asking a tax criminal if they broke the law.
Nice list. What’s not on the list is “Apple was right to add vagueness to the interface.” As I anticipated 10 years ago, Apple's follies into the "shock and awe unnecessarily-forced interface/UI reinventions" would slowly but eventually backstep away from the uber-Flat-Design iOS7-esque forced reinvention nonsense, and head back towards function-first pre-2012/pre-iOS7. Still a ways to go but a zillion times better than 10 years ago.
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