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I mean wasn't reading it about 5 times enough to convince you (if you believe the posters) without having to then post asking if this confirms it?
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FAKE tiny-code/kellytm post about being "on iTunes" and deving for 1.1.4 SDK: FAKE
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Are you sitting there waiting for someone to reply to your post with a "correct"?
I mean wasn't reading it about 5 times enough to convince you (if you believe the posters) without having to then post asking if this confirms it?
With that update to the article it really does serve them right if they have lost access to the pre-release of the SDK. They should know better than to divulge information that is not yet released from a company like Apple. How thick can you get, or stupid if you want to actually get a product out there first.
price drop confirmed! : )
on the subject of free software, apple greediness an how software engineers make a living:
i love free software (and more so OSS) just as the next guy, but let's face it: everything that has a cost of production can be expected to have a price (which means - everything ever made by humans), and that's a gross oversimplification, as in practice the pricing of something is never as simple as its cost.
giving up royalties on their work is a gesture by the IP owner, and as such is more of an exception that the norm, despite the fact that many fundamental software technologies we are using today have originated as royalties-free software. if i were the IP holder of this piece of sw and decided to make it free, that implies nothing at all about the pricing of any other similar pieces of software - their respective IP holders have the ultimate authority over that. apple may charge as much as they deem passable for their products, but as long as they allow 3rd parties to decide the price of their apps, includingly releasing them free of charge, i am absolutely ok with such a model; i may not be ok with the given price of a particular app, on a piece-by-piece basis, but that's beyond the subject.
I was thinking the same thing. Even without reading the entire thing you would think the name of the document, i.e. NON-DISCLOSURE agreement, might have given him a hint. I understand people wanting to leak information but to claim to be that ignorant is beyond the pale.
No I wasn't sitting there waiting for a reply. Were you waiting around for a comment so you could be a rude a**?
Well Windows mobile is still going strong and that ******* SOB freezes up every other time I get a text message.
Sheeple. Please. Stop. Thanks.
I'm not sure if you are using the same iPhones the rest of us are, but um, Apple's apps are amongst the most unstable I've run on the damned thing.
My current phone is no longer jailbroken and WOW.
Could MobileSafari crash *any more* on 1.1.3 and still be considered "running"?
I also cannot...CANNOT fathom how it is people can be so easily duped into thinking that running an application on your phone without the Apple Seal of Approval is a GOOD thing.
Does your computer work this way? Can you only get the apps you want from Apple?!?!
I submit that you have MORE risk to yourself running 3rd party software on an Internet connected Mac than a "telephone" that bare has enough ram in it to get out of its own way.
In fact, tying 3rd party apps developed by ISVs to *iTunes* is a less user-friendly solution than EVERY OTHER 3rd Party phone platform on Earth...without question. What is more user friendly than simple drag and drop (you know, that Mac os x feature that made it sooo nifty years and years ago) or "Click Here to Download" in the *web browser* that Apple installed on the phone (assuming of course, it doesn't crash...)
If M$ pulled this kind of crap, you would all be up in arms...and you *know* it.
Because Steve Jobs says it, it suddenly sucks less? is there any wonder at ALL that Mac Users get tagged as cultists loonies and/or hypocrites?!?!
I'm not sure if you are using the same iPhones the rest of us are, but um, Apple's apps are amongst the most unstable I've run on the damned thing.
My current phone is no longer jailbroken and WOW.
Could MobileSafari crash *any more* on 1.1.3 and still be considered "running"?
I also cannot...CANNOT fathom how it is people can be so easily duped into thinking that running an application on your phone without the Apple Seal of Approval is a GOOD thing.
Does your computer work this way? Can you only get the apps you want from Apple?!?!
I submit that you have MORE risk to yourself running 3rd party software on an Internet connected Mac than a "telephone" that bare has enough ram in it to get out of its own way.
In fact, tying 3rd party apps developed by ISVs to *iTunes* is a less user-friendly solution than EVERY OTHER 3rd Party phone platform on Earth...without question. What is more user friendly than simple drag and drop (you know, that Mac os x feature that made it sooo nifty years and years ago) or "Click Here to Download" in the *web browser* that Apple installed on the phone (assuming of course, it doesn't crash...)
If M$ pulled this kind of crap, you would all be up in arms...and you *know* it.
Because Steve Jobs says it, it suddenly sucks less? is there any wonder at ALL that Mac Users get tagged as cultists loonies and/or hypocrites?!?!
I remember that back about 6-7 years when the first windows mobile phones came out it was hard to put your own software on.
They slowly developed the system and updated it to what it is now, these things take time and Apple are the same.
Agreed. Remarkably stupid.
EDIT: Plus, it's not hard to imagine that the continued posting in this forum ALSO violates the terms of the NDA.
Spoken like someone who has done time. What were you in for?
Agreed! I think the only reason the SDK is taking so long is that Apple needs to make sure they figure out a way to prevent the inevitable chat and Skype apps. Can't let anyone use their phone in a way that bypasses paying for a text or talk time. lol
i'm sure that if you had tried to make a bit more coherent post you could have made a point. as of now the only one coming out as a loonie is you. also, before going on an 'OMG are you people idiots!' tantrum you may want to read what others already put in this thread. i suggest you go over Small White Car's posts - you may just as well grasp the idea of why not everything with a cpu inside is a computer.
enjoy your day.
I was a bit worried to hear (assuming what this time is true) that the SDK is still in alpha.
Does this mean that there will at best be a beta release in Feb and developed applications will only be able to run on beta version of the iphone firmware that wont be generally available? Maybe they will sell developers dev platform iphones (like those intel dev platforms they had when apple moved to intel) to test their application out? that would suck.
If this is the case Apple might not even roll out the store part of the solution until later too..
I'm in a pessimistic mood
Does this mean that there will at best be a beta release in Feb and developed applications will only be able to run on beta version of the iphone firmware that wont be generally available? Maybe they will sell developers dev platform iphones (like those intel dev platforms they had when apple moved to intel) to test their application out? that would suck.
If this is the case Apple might not even roll out the store part of the solution until later too..
I'm in a pessimistic mood
Or, the upgrade will cost money.
Or, that's when the poster's other contract expires.
Or, they're messing with us.
Or, there will be a whole new iPhone.
I get the feeling that touch owners won't get a free ride like the iphone owners.. They may be bundling new apps/games?
So, let me get this straight. Since the Safari on my iPhone doesn't crash nearly as much as yours (last time was about 2-3 weeks ago) I'm a sheep. Umm, ok.?.?.? Sorry you've had bad luck but maybe you should stop surfing those porn sites and it won't crash on you anymore
What are you, 12 or something? Just couldn't resist rubbing people's faces in the fact that you were soooo cool that you had the SDK and other devs didn't?
*golf clap* Bravo.
Did you actually read this before you clicked Submit Reply??? You are arguing from both sides because of your poor wording so I have no idea whether you are for or against anything. Way to make your case. Sheesh.
Well, it looks like you even disagree with yourself DARPA (Department of Defense: Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) a government agency paid for the R&D (tax dollars). Businesses (you keep ignoring these guys) paid for much of the other R&D.
I wonder who has paid for your software developement over the past 10 years; or have you been doing it all for free. If all the software you have developed over the past ten years has been without compensation, then I congratulate you on your principles.
Good luck.
When I saw the tiny-code announcement I was extremely shocked that someone on the inside would freely offer up such information. Does this person not know anything about apple and their desire to be the funnel of all information?? Wow... talk about blowing it..
You sir, don't learn very quickly do you? You're either pissed at apple or just ignorant. And if you were ignorant you wouldn't have taken down tiny-code.com, you would have just removed the information off the site that they didn't like. I don't think apple can order cease of your entire operation, just remove the offending material, unless of course they bought you out like they did with thinksecret.com in a settlement.
You sir, don't learn very quickly do you? You're either pissed at apple or just ignorant. And if you were ignorant you wouldn't have taken down tiny-code.com, you would have just removed the information off the site that they didn't like. I don't think apple can order cease of your entire operation, just remove the offending material, unless of course they bought you out like they did with thinksecret.com in a settlement.
You keep confusing the cost of developing software with the free to use as you like. I've never said anything about who paid for the software (either in time or money) just that the software was given away, ie. it's free to use as you like. This free software is the basis of all of the software we have today. In fact if you've ever read The Cathedral and the Bazaar it could be argued that some of the highest quality software came out of this process of releasing it and the source code for free. There is a reason that so many other pieces of software have been started with these free ones as their base.
Now, I know 'free to use as you like' is completely anti-Apple in every way (well actually when Woz was still around, iirc the Apple II came with complete hardware specs so you could hack it, but I digress), but Steve Jobs doesn't know everything I may or may not need my computer for.
I write custom software for companies whose core business has nothing to do with software. What they do with it after I write it doesn't matter much to me. I've also written linux kernel patches in the past to fix my own minor issues (or as a part of school projects), but I've never had any accepted into the main kernel. I also post lots of code on various message boards as answers to peoples questions, etc...
Now that you got me thinking though, I need to start charging for every thing I write. I can't do anything because it would be fun or cool or helpful to others. So the next time I see a question pop up that I could write that piece of code in my sleep, I'll first ask for $5. Thanks for the idea!
I'm amazed at the abuse, tiny-code is getting on here, yes he might have very slightly went against the NDA
but, come on, all he really said, that his apps arn't available anymore, but will be on itunes soon.
Is it really, worth, the slamming he is getting and is it worth the cutting off from Apple that he's getting, I really think some people and Apple really need to chill and step back.
You people come on here for Apple rumour news, he gives it, gets caught and told off for it, and people are here kicking him when he is down.
This bloke didn't charge for his software, I really believe Apple and the people on here start giving more respect to the small developers, its by time that people and Apple remember without these small developers then the products that they adore and that Apple are trying to gain so much profit over are nothing!!!!
Rant over, and I hope Apple reconsider and sell his Apps on Itunes, otherwise, long live Jailbreak!
but, come on, all he really said, that his apps arn't available anymore, but will be on itunes soon.
Is it really, worth, the slamming he is getting and is it worth the cutting off from Apple that he's getting, I really think some people and Apple really need to chill and step back.
You people come on here for Apple rumour news, he gives it, gets caught and told off for it, and people are here kicking him when he is down.
This bloke didn't charge for his software, I really believe Apple and the people on here start giving more respect to the small developers, its by time that people and Apple remember without these small developers then the products that they adore and that Apple are trying to gain so much profit over are nothing!!!!
Rant over, and I hope Apple reconsider and sell his Apps on Itunes, otherwise, long live Jailbreak!