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Well your argument that tax dollars laid the groundwork for all future software means that we've already paid for it. Why should we have to pay anymore? Or course that's as ridiculous as saying no one wants to write free software. I also didn't say software was developed for free. Time, opportunity costs, etc... all come into play. It's the software that has been given away that has been the basis of all software today.

Of course Apple doesn't have to open the iPhone platform. But the only reason they wouldn't is because they want to milk as much money from it as possible. Which is of course their right, but don't defend them by saying it's because they want the best user experience or some other nonsense.

I am not sure how you arrived with this response to what I posted:

"Actually, you have it backwards. 'Paid' for software, is the basis for most/all of today's software (free and paid for). All of today's OSs/languages/software can trace their original development costs to the Billions (if not Trillions) of tax dollars spent via the military/universities/NASA in computer/hardware/software research over the past 60+ years. Not counting the Billions of dollars in Business investments in universities/labs/etc research.

Sure, some software today is developed 'free', people do contribute their labor for other reasons besides monetary gain as you stated. But someone is always directly/indirectly paying for their time.

Nothing is really free, it just might not have cost you anything (directly)."​

I did not defend Apple about anything, as a matter of fact I never mentioned Apple's name. But you are correct, Apple does have a right to charge for their product.

Talking about rediculous... I could infer from your post that you think if you paid for the foundation of a house, you should be entitled to the entire house. You probably did not mean this, but who knows.

I also noticed how you conveniently left out the Business monetary contributions.

You also said:

"It's the software that has been given away that has been the basis of all software today."

How anyone living in the real world can have/make this thought/statement is just amazing.

Looks like several software engineers posting here (including myself) disagree with your point of view. However, you are entitled to your point of view, you just might want to give it some additional thought.

Good luck to you.
 
There's one really obvious clue that at least some apps are going to have to be paid for. For all those with iPod Touches, you will have noticed you've just had to pay for a set off apps. I think this was just a dummy-run to see if the system worked, and how people react to having to pay for software. At first there was a bit of an uproar, but i don't see it being discussed anymore. But just because Apple can/have implemented a pay for app service for iPhone/Touch, doesn't mean all applications are going to have to pay.
 
What I would like to see:
1. More accuracy with the locate me feature on google maps.
2. Being able to download 3rd party apps from the iTunes Wifi Music store. (Hopefully movies, rentals, tv shows ect;)
3. Able to record videos to your iphone via the camera and being able to upload them to youtube.
COME ON APPLE. PLEASE, YOU CAN HEAR US. THIS IS A CALL... NOW YOU ANSWER.
 
What I would like to see:
1. More accuracy with the locate me feature on google maps.

this will come as it gets used more ... but its not really anything google or apple can do... It's the technology, not the implementation of it... (it's not as accurate as GPS, because it's not GPS)
 
this will come as it gets used more ... but its not really anything google or apple can do... It's the technology, not the implementation of it... (it's not as accurate as GPS, because it's not GPS)

You'd be suprised what Apple, Google, and SkyHook can do. :p
 
o.o

Wow, this sure has gotten a great amount of attention.
What if tiny-code had to be taken down because hypothetically the owner of Tiny-Code broke the Apple, NDA by posting a firmware version?

I would suppose the guy who broke the NDA will most likely no longer be seen on iTunes or be included in future firmware releases.

Just a thought..
 
I would assume that is just to stop the "where did it go" and "why is it down" speculation.
 
It's interesting to put it right to there vs. making their own "We are under construction website..." it confirms the fact that they are working with Apple on this.
 
Just because the URL forwards there, does not mean they are still working with Apple.

It actually kinda makes sense, they developed for the iPhone, and now it forwards to the iPhone dev site since they can no longer use it without Apple getting upset.
I assume.
 
Just because the URL forwards there, does not mean they are still working with Apple.

It actually kinda makes sense, they developed for the iPhone, and now it forwards to the iPhone dev site since they can no longer use it without Apple getting upset.
I assume.

You assume wrong. :p
 
how's so?

You know what they say about assuming though.
ass-u-me
It can make an ass out of u and me ;)
 
They must be related now that they link to the iPhone dev connection...it just doesn't make any sense unless they wanted to throw us all on a loop but that wouldn't be like a website who is for open source.

I think we are closer to the release date then we may suspect.
 
http://developer.apple.com/iphone/devcenter/third_party_apps.php
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=iphone+sdk+inurl:apple.com&btnG=Search
indivPreview.php
 
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