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Fan Stabbed, Tossed From Upper Deck at Soccer Game
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Mr. Durden said:Actually, on a related note, Soccer should be renamed "hooliganism ball, or "bore ball" (nothing like an intense 1 to nill soccer game), or "please dont kill me ball", or... oh, never mind, this is lame...
Nothing like an ADS american sportsfan that needs to have 93-90 score lines to get excited.
Just as an aside - you do know that American 'Football' is rubbish don't you. I mean surely you do know that right?
Not that i'm a huge fan of football (soccer if you must) to be honest but American Football......please.....come on now.....really.....
*runs from angry crowd of american football fans.......oh no wait....they've stopped for a break.....here they come again.....oh no hold on, they've stopped again.......OMG here they come again....no no....it's a time out.....RUN FOR YOUR L......oh wait....it's the end of the 1st quarter apparently*
Not that i'm a huge fan of football (soccer if you must) to be honest but American Football......please.....come on now.....really.....
*runs from angry crowd of american football fans.......oh no wait....they've stopped for a break.....here they come again.....oh no hold on, they've stopped again.......OMG here they come again....no no....it's a time out.....RUN FOR YOUR L......oh wait....it's the end of the 1st quarter apparently*
I'm not a big fan of American football either, MacRy. Lately, I've been following the EPL (English Premier League) matches on the Fox Soccer Channel.MacRy said:Just as an aside - you do know that American 'Football' is rubbish don't you. I mean surely you do know that right?
Not that i'm a huge fan of football (soccer if you must) to be honest but American Football......please.....come on now.....really.....
*runs from angry crowd of american football fans.......oh no wait....they've stopped for a break.....here they come again.....oh no hold on, they've stopped again.......OMG here they come again....no no....it's a time out.....RUN FOR YOUR L......oh wait....it's the end of the 1st quarter apparently*
Mr. Durden said:
Nope, American football is football because it evolved from rugby football which evolved from football (soccer). American football in its early (college) years did still involve kicking the ball since you couldn't have forward passes much more like rugby still is. The ball back then was softer and had less 'pointed' ends.
There are lots of varieties of 'football' in the world - Gaelic, Aussie, American, Rugby, Association (soccer) - the generic 'football' depends which is most dominant in the area of the world you live in.
MacRy said:
I know there's a
in there but, as a UK-based American football fan, I hate when Brits make all those kind of comments about the game being full of 'breaks/timeouts' and 'them all being big girls' blouses for having pads and helmets' without having any real concept of the intricacies and subtleties of the game. Watching the complexities involved when analysts break down a play makes me realise how much I still don't notice even after watching the sport for years. It's my favourite sport by a long way - and yes, I did start off watching soccer which now doesn't hold my attention.Applespider said:
Yep cos that's what makes an exciting game for me - having to have someone break down the play so that I can understand what just happened.
I'm not having a go Applespider and each to their own. If it brings you pleasure then that's all that matters. There are obviously a lot of people who would disagree with my point of view and it is clearly a very popular sport. Let's leave it at that and I won't have to say anything about baseball......speaking of which, did the US win the world series again? That's every year now isn't it? They are very good aren't they.
American football players are a big bunch of nancy boys though
MacRy said:Just as an aside - you do know that American 'Football' is rubbish don't you. I mean surely you do know that right?
Not that i'm a huge fan of football (soccer if you must) to be honest but American Football......please.....come on now.....really.....
*runs from angry crowd of american football fans.......oh no wait....they've stopped for a break.....here they come again.....oh no hold on, they've stopped again.......OMG here they come again....no no....it's a time out.....RUN FOR YOUR L......oh wait....it's the end of the 1st quarter apparently*
Thats great. Makes me chuckle. My turn.
*Flicks on TV to watch Soccer game. By a miracle of the gods someone scores a goal, and amid the hail of gunfire, flaming sh*t raining down from the stand and the occassional corps flopping onto the field, I see one of the soccer players drop to his knees and bite his own team mate on the wanker. Then after another hour of kicking the ball down to one end of the field and then back to the other, an official makes a bad call and is promptly stabbed and killed. Oh no, whats that? A player makes a mistake and scores a goal for the wrong team, and later, he'll be killed in front of his family for such a horrible act. And I'm only scratching the surface.
I mean really, Bush should have named the Axis of Evil as Soccer, Soccer Fans and North Korea. In that order.
Easy now. This is all in good fun.
MacRy said:Yep cos that's what makes an exciting game for me - having to have someone break down the play so that I can understand what just happened.
I'm not having a go Applespider and each to their own. If it brings you pleasure then that's all that matters. There are obviously a lot of people who would disagree with my point of view and it is clearly a very popular sport. Let's leave it at that and I won't have to say anything about baseball......speaking of which, did the US win the world series again? That's every year now isn't it? They are very good aren't they.
American football players are a big bunch of nancy boys though
Those American nancy boy Football players are all about 350lbs and can run 40 yards in about 5 seconds. They'll crush any soccer player and have to scrub the remains off their shoe like a pile of do sh*t. Just dont ask them to run for more than those 5 seconds without a break of 30 seconds.
Ummm. Yes. The US did win the world series again. They are quite good. But unfortunately Baseball isnt considered really a sport anymore as much as a leisure activity. Any sport in which they play double-headers (not sure what you call them over yonder, though. Two games in a row...), and stop playing if it rains, cant really be considered a sport. So yes, the US is quite good at the leisure activity of Baseball.
Mr. Durden said:
Yep they're big fellas that's for sure. You should check out Jonah Lomu though who is a rugby player for New Zealand. He's 6'5" and 125Kg and i've seen him running full tilt across a rugby pitch with three blokes hanging off of him and he didn't even break a sweat......didn't need massive amounts of pads and a helmet either. Now I don't really have that great an affinity with rugby as a game either but at least it flows, which is something that American Football doesn't really.
Double-headers in my frame of reference are only involved in films of an adult nature and i'm sure that I would find baseball a lot more interesting if that's what you mean
I'm English so when I hear about football hooligans I'm pretty use to it and it comes with football, and nearly every major team has their own 'firm' of hooligans who usually fight at the main matches for their club. In America do you have Baseball hooligans, NFL hooligans??
How can you say that, I tried to watch a rugby match once and was bored out of my mind. Its like a really bad version of the NFL. As for the hooligans, yes we have then but none of them ever get killed. We have hecklers not hooligans over here.gangst said:
gangst said:
Nothing like what you have over there. There may be the occassional fight or chest thumping match, but nothing life threatening. Usually the worst you get is a beer tossed on you.
Although, I live close to Denver, (our NFL team is the Broncos) and whenever the The Oakland "Raiders" come to town, the tickets are nearly impossible to get. At those games, some serious stuff sometimes goes down. Once I saw a police man get tossed down the stairs and one guy jumped from about 10 feet up onto another guy and they had at it. But fortunately, noone actually got stabbed, shanked or otherwise seriously injured. Its kind of ruined the "live" aspect of the game for me. i'd rather watch on TV now, anyways.
gangst said:
Not a chance. Dont be fooled by the "pads". They arent worn because the players are pansies. They are worn because the size and speed and power these guys have would litteraly shatter bones when they make contact at full speed. In fact, even with the pads, its very often the players break bones here and there.
Now I've watched Rugby and actually like it quite a bit. It just never seems to be on regularly over here. There is a lot of physicality involved, but not at the speeds nor force of the NFL. You wont very often see a man carry three others down the field in the NFL, but thats because he'd be killed first.
The Rugby guys are obviously in much better shape, though. In the NFL you play for no more than 10 seconds, then get about 30 seconds off. And they get to rest while the offense/defense is on the field. Oh, and dont forget commercial breaks.
MacRy said:
Sorry for the three posts is a row. But I keep seeing new things to comment on. So... What is a "wanker" then?
I saw a "highlight" (I guess you could call it that) of a soccer player, that after a goal was scored and his team mates were all happy and jumping around, this one guy drops to his knees and bites (yes, "bites") the other player's ummm... how do you say... ahhh very well then, I'll just blurt it out... he bit his team mates penis. WTF is that about? And I thought that is what a "wanker" is (penis).
I never have gotten the hang of you guy's slang terms...
gangst said:
I like rugby and the NFL and I think they'd match up quite well once they figured out the different styles of play. Rugby tackles are based on pushing and pulling a guy down whereas NFL tackles are more of a collision (hence pads and helmets). I love the sound of helmets and pads colliding. It's funny actually when you go to the NFL Hall of Fame to see their original very small pads and leather helmets; it doesn't look so different to what some of the rugby boys have started wearing in recent years. There are consistent rumours that rugby players are scouted by NFL teams; there's a lot more money in the NFL now that the RFU players are pro and out for the cash.
I do understand both games without analysts (or I wouldn't be watching
) but I'll watch a play and go 'yeah, why didn't the QB throw to the Z receiver?' since from the TV angle it seemed obvious that it would have been a bigger play. Then you see Ron Jaworksi break it down on NFL Matchup the next week and you realise that the QB was watching two blitzing defensive ends, his RB was split out wide and not picking them up and the strong safety had come down the field and throwing to the Z receiver might have been a pick... Just seeing what the QB has to pick up on and react to within the first 2 seconds of every play amazes me.Incidentally, for those with Tiger, 'wanker' is in the dictionary...
Mr. Durden said:
Found this http://www.big-boys.com/articles/rugbyhits.html imagine that for 80 minutes with only a half time break.
you dont have football hooligans over there... They are very very common in europe. We had one guy in sweden beaten to death a couple o months ago. they didnt even bother to go and see the game. They just arrange a meeting over the net so they can fight.MacNut said:
MacNut said:
He most certainly is.
A wanker is also a derogatory term for someone without necessarily alluding to them actually masturbating. For example:
"Have you seen that bloke off of the telly? He's a right wanker!"
Enjoy your new found phrase and try and work it into everyday conversation as often as possible. Perhaps try 'bollocks' out too as that is a cracking good old anglo saxon word that we use frequently in England.
MacRy said:He most certainly is.
A wanker is also a derogatory term for someone without necessarily alluding to them actually masturbating. For example:
"Have you seen that bloke off of the telly? He's a right wanker!"
Enjoy your new found phrase and try and work it into everyday conversation as often as possible. Perhaps try 'bollocks' out too as that is a cracking good old anglo saxon word that we use frequently in England.
Right. Well, here goes...
This wanker is calling it a day and heading out for a martini or two (or 8).
How'd I do?