Fantastical 3.0.9 Adds Cursor Support for iPad and More

[kmichalec]

1. When I subscribed it was through Apple. Flexibits have none of my payment info. Signed in with Apple using a randomized email address. Flexibits don't even have my email address.

2. That's on you, not them. You've zero proof of then doing anything wrong with the data, but have by your own admission now tarred then with the same brush as Zoom, simply because you dislike their new model.

3. Apple are pushing for independent Apple watch apps now they no longer require a corresponding phone app. Hence this new method of synchronization.

4. Your personal doubt means nothing here and, like point 2. above, that's your personal issue.

And your blind trust means nothing here either. Why do you care that I don't trust them? I have no obligation to trust a company that took away something I paid for without my consent. If that felt that was "reasonable and fair", what else do they consider "reasonable and fair"? That's on you and your personal issue. People need to think long and hard about what data they provide to software companies, and why it's necessary. In this case, it's not.

Ok. Let's do a test. Send me your personal info. I promise I won't do anything with it and will keep it safe, even though I have no need for it. If you don't believe that, I'll post it on a webpage, and that will make it official. Will that make you feel better about sending it?

Good! I anxiously await then sending of your data (which I still promise I won't do anything with)...

 

[Daikin]

I don't have the slightest hope in developers of a calendar app that sells multiple views ... even the first day of the week preference as a subscription feature (!! 🤑🤑 !!)). *Sick* Really, get rid of Flexibits devs. The faster this kind of rotten people disappear, the better. With this kind of untold childhood: not a shred of compassion!
They deserve ... their absolute downfall.
Any sensible, healthy person, dev or not, cannot just imagine this childlike character... This is really trying to sell the ignorance.
The saddest thing I can imagine after 30+ years in the IT-industry. Sincerely.

 

[TiggrToo]

And your blind trust means nothing here either. Why do you care that I don't trust them? I have no obligation to trust a company that took away something I paid for without my consent. If that felt that was "reasonable and fair", what else do they consider "reasonable and fair"? That's on you and your personal issue. People need to think long and hard about what data they provide to software companies, and why it's necessary. In this case, it's not.

Ok. Let's do a test. Send me your personal info. I promise I won't do anything with it and will keep it safe, even though I have no need for it. If you don't believe that, I'll post it on a webpage, and that will make it official. Will that make you feel better about sending it?

Good! I anxiously await then sending of your data (which I still promise I won't do anything with)...

You're not a business and you're providing nothing of value to me. So you'll forgive me if I decline.

Meanwhile Flexibits have credibility more on the line than ever before. I'll trust them a billion times more than a anonymous person on MR with zero credibility and nothing to lose.

 

[uehithneu]

Sorry for this self-promotion lol but I do think my comment (in an old thread) is worth sharing. It's disappointing that Flexibits imposes, in F3, fragmentation by device.

Flexibits talks about F3 being simplified, streamlined but those jerks impose in F3 artificial constraints -- constraints that once were legit but now are out of date. F2 apps have different calendar views depending on device platform -- e.g., F2 for iPad has year view but F2 for iPhone does not have year view. Flexibits *says* F2 users receive F3 upgrade for **features** they've paid for. But yet Flexibits refuses to remove the fragmentation by device. In other words: Users who paid for both iPad and iPhone versions of F2 (alternately 'users who paid for pretty-much all *features*') still, in F3, have no year view on iPhone even though users who pay for F3 subscription do get year view on iPhone.

One way that Flexibits could have given an olive branch, to F2 users who bought all *features*, is by removing the fragmentation by device (e.g., putting year view on iPhone). Flexibits doesn't do that -- and this weird stance absolutely justifies the widespread belief that Flexibits has 'become greedy'.

This is a legit gripe and I wonder why none of the podcast pundits talks about it. Perhaps they themselves don't pay for the nonsense pricing they're pushing.

 

[kmichalec]

You're not a business and you're providing nothing of value to me. So you'll forgive me if I decline.

Meanwhile Flexibits have credibility more on the line than ever before. I'll trust them a billion times more than a anonymous person on MR with zero credibility and nothing to lose.

So you’re willing to give up all your data, as long as you get something out of it? Ok. I’ll give you $5, if you send me your data. Now you are getting something of value. Do we have a deal now?

And, let’s be honest. They lost all credibility after this upgrade debacle. You just choose to keep trusting them. That’s completely up to you, and your decision. I just choose not to after they already burned me.

 

[uehithneu]

And, let’s be honest. They lost all credibility after this upgrade debacle. You just choose to keep trusting them. That’s completely up to you, and your decision. I just choose not to after they already burned me.

Yup!

 

[TiggrToo]

So you’re willing to give up all your data, as long as you get something out of it? Ok. I’ll give you $5, if you send me your data. Now you are getting something of value. Do we have a deal now?

And, let’s be honest. They lost all credibility after this upgrade debacle. You just choose to keep trusting them. That’s completely up to you, and your decision. I just choose not to after they already burned me.

Really unsure how I could have been any clearer: you're neither a business, nor are you supplying any services to me. You're an anonymous person on MR; In that respect why on Earth would I even think of that in the first place? In addition, you have no privacy policy, you're not a legal entity, and, to be quite honest, I doubt your intentions.

I am NOT here to justify my decisions to you. I have every right to do what I do, just as you have the right to do what you do.

At no point have I badgered or chastised you for making your decisions, now please respect mine.

This line of questioning is done as far as I'm concerned. I'm more than happy to respond to other areas of the subject, but I refuse to subject myself to justification as to why I did what I did.

You don't like it? Well, that's your issue not mine.

Now please, move on.

 

[uehithneu]

App Store review posted by @kmichalec speaks the truth!

 

[TiggrToo]

App Store review posted by @kmichalec speaks the truth!

Truth, or opinion?

 

[ScottNWDW]

To me, Fantastical is worth the subscription price. It is an app that I find useful on a daily basis. I have used Fantastical since version 1 and yes when 3 first came out it was a bit of shock, but after using the app a few days I was more than happy to sign up for the subscription. The new features like the interesting calendars, 2-way Todoist sync, task and event templates, meeting proposals, and the 10-day weather forecast are all huge time savers for me and well worth $40 a year.

Just because you are against the subscription model that doesn't make the program bad, it just means that you don't find any benefit in the added features, you don't believe that developers should be paid for their work - I don't think they are being greedy asking $40 a year for an app that can do what this app can, I just think those users are greedy in that they want the developers to give away their software for free.

If I didn't use the calendar on a daily basis I could understand the reluctancy to pay the subscription. There are plenty of free (or cheaper) alternatives. Do they do the job as well? That is a matter of perspective and in my view the answer is NO, they don't. If they were better I would not have stuck with Fantastical so long. Same goes for things like Microsoft Office, DayOne and Todoist. The main subscription apps that I use. All of them have free alternatives, but none of them do as good of a job as these do, in MY opinion. YMMV.

 

[uehithneu]

Just because you are against the subscription model that doesn't make the program bad, it just means that you don't find any benefit in the added features, you don't believe that developers should be paid for their work - I don't think they are being greedy asking $40 a year for an app that can do what this app can, I just think those users are greedy in that they want the developers to give away their software for free.

Why on Earth are you posting this nonsense?? Nobody says developers should not be paid for their work. Nobody """believes""" developers should not be paid for their work. Flexibits customers paid to use Fantastical without nags and without nuisance (e.g., having to turn off App Store autoupdates) and without perpetual payment. Flexibits forces F3 update, defying buyers' expectations and breaking users' trust. Flexibits should have released F3 as a new version. Or they should have added a 'buy once' pricepoint. From Jan 29th 'til now Flexibits has mistreated a whole lot of persons -- this is true no matter how much you try to evangelize, explain away, spout off.

F3 features are middling not because of the pricing scheme but rather because of Flexibits conduct + choices. This is what happens lol when one reserves TestFlight invites for podcast pundits not for real-world users. A good lesson for developers who strive for excellence not for just hype! Critique of F3 features comes from many hundreds--the vast majority!--of recent App Store reviews. Perhaps you should sort 'most recent', do some reading rather than tell us how weather data such a lifechanging timesaver.

Pro tip: Try out some other apps. For iOS: 6-Month Planner, Appoint, Calendar 366, CalenGoo, CalZones, Coyome, Extreme Calendar, Informant, MagiCal2, ManyMonths, miCal, Minimal Calendar, Month Calendar 2, myCal PRO, NotePlan, Perspectiva, Readdle, SaiSuke2, Staccal, terminic, Timeview, WeekCal, x-Calendar, Year Planner. For macOS: BusyCal, Calendar 366, CalenGoo, Calinsight, Half Year Planner, Informant, NotePlan, popCalendar, TimeTable 3, yCal. Lists not exhaustive but all these apps have nice functionality, nice views, nice pricing, non-dickish developers. For the price of F3 annual rent, one can *buy* most iOS apps (or many macOS apps) listed here.

If you like, please take the last word. I for one have better things to do than engage further.

 

[ScottNWDW]

Why on Earth are you posting this nonsense?? Nobody says developers should not be paid for their work. Nobody """believes""" developers should not be paid for their work. Flexibits customers paid to use Fantastical without nags and without nuisance (e.g., having to turn off App Store autoupdates) and without perpetual payment. Flexibits forces F3 update, defying buyers' expectations and breaking users' trust. Flexibits should have released F3 as a new version. Or they should have added a 'buy once' pricepoint. From Jan 29th 'til now Flexibits has mistreated a whole lot of persons -- this is true no matter how much you try to evangelize, explain away, spout off.

F3 features are middling not because of the pricing scheme but rather because of Flexibits conduct + choices. This is what happens lol when one reserves TestFlight invites for podcast pundits not for real-world users. A good lesson for developers who strive for excellence not just hype! Critique of F3 features comes not just from me and not just from this forum but rather from hundreds--hundreds!--of App Store reviews. Perhaps you should sort 'most recent', do some reading rather than tell us how weather data such a lifechanging timesaver.

Pro tip: Try out some *good* calendar apps before you give F3 undue praise. Appoint, Calendar 366, CalenGoo, CalZones, Coyome, Extreme Calendar, Informant, miCal, Month Calendar 2, myCal PRO, Perspectiva, Readdle, Staccal, terminic, Timeview, WeekCal, x-Calendar. This list not exhaustive but all those apps have nice functionality, nice views, nice pricing, non-dickish developers.

If you like, please take the last word. I for one have better things to do than engage further.

I never said the weather was a life changing timesaver, although it is a timesaver because I don't have to load a weather app or go to the internet to check the weather. Secondly I did look at the most recent reviews and they all sound like a bunch of cry babies who are afraid that Flexibits is stealing their candy/Starbucks/Fortnite money. I have tried other calendar apps and always came back to Fantastical. I never said any of them were bad, just not as good as Fantastical. What does Testflight have to do with this? I never used Testflight in regards to Fantastical. I found out about the update through an email from Flexibits letting me know of the update. In that email was a link to the field guide for Fantastical 3, which I found to explain a LOT of the changes, Maybe you should try and go through that. And, for someone who claims to have better things to do, you DO keep engaging.

 

[wizbang68]

Heck if I will pay $40 a year for a calendar app! If you want a full feature calendar, tasks, etc. You can subscribe to Microsoft Office 365 Personal that has Outlook (calendar, tasks, email) OneNote (Personal knowledge-base, Note Taking, Task Project Notes-Shared Access, Powerpoint, Word, and Excel.) for $69 a year. If you don't want to pay for them you can just use web versions which aren't choked to death like V3 of fantastical is. If you want to buy a app set You can purchase Microsoft Office 2019 for $249 which includes Outlook, Word, Excel, Powerpoint on a Mac. The iPhone versions are free. I've been using Office 2011 for Mac up until I had to upgrade to Catalina from High Sierra because my old 2010 iMac finally started giving up the ghost with the video card failing. Thing is there is no reason to pay that much for such a small set of features that don't work consistently and force the upgrade on users. My roomie used V2 and was going off last week about the system forcing an upgrade installation.