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Apple is lying.

A two-year old iPhone SE with a healthy battery (measured in an Apple Store) is throttled. After replacing the old battery in the store the speed comes back.

It's very likely that the algorithm only looks at battery charge cycles, and it's the easiest implementation. The magic number is around 500.

Not sure if using a new third-party battery would also work.
Im going to have to go in soon to get mine replaced on the SE as well-- not happy that I have to pay for their lies.
 
Coconut Battery says i have 1,125 cycles on my battery...its at 78.7% design capacity (that seems to fluctuate according to Battery life app)

iPhone 6...manufactured 12/2014

My wife's 12/14 6 is at 751 cycles and 87% of design capacity. I thought she was a heavy user, but you're way ahead of her. Extensive GB4 testing shows that her phone is not being throttled. Have you checked yours with GB4?
 
Im going to have to go in soon to get mine replaced on the SE as well-- not happy that I have to pay for their lies.
Alright, I'll bite. What did they lie about and do you have actual evidence of it instead of assertions?
 
My crystal ball is cloudy but here's how I see it going down.

I expect the courts to certify this as a class action; not all suits will be dismissed.
Apple has sold hundreds of millions of iPhones. Juries will contain Apple victims - or know Apple victims. Juries are stupid, on average.

I expect the plaintiffs to win .... pennies. The law firm will grow rich. This is the nature of class action litigation.

Then Europe will take the discovered information and cut Apple a new one. I would not be the least surprised to see them go after Cook and Co. individually in a criminal case, just to gain leverage.

Europe will extract billions over this or at least give it their best shot. The first conviction/award will open the floodgates.

Popcorn, please.

"For ’tis the sport to have the engineer
Hoist with his own petard."
Shakespeare Hamlet → Act 3, Scene 4, Page 9
 
I don't want to split hairs, but no. They are all labeled assembled in China. On the front there are labels from Apple South Asia (Thailand) Limited and Apple Japan, but afaik they don't have any manufacturing lines.
Well that is weird. I have only seen “made in japan” on the several dozen iPhones, iPads, iPods that I have repaired.
 
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"Any older iPhone models are currently not affected, including the iPhone 5s, iPhone 5c, iPhone 5, iPhone 4s, iPhone 4, iPhone 3Gs, iPhone 3G, and the original iPhone, even though some of those models have also experienced shutdowns. The latest iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, and iPhone X are also currently not affected."

Not affected is a misnomer. The "fix" has not been IMPLEMENTED. Apple has already announced that the "fix" will be implemented for the 8 and up in the future. The use of "fix" is of course, a misnomer itself. It is NOT a fix but a workaround for poorly performing batteries.
 
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Thanks Apple for writing this article. Sigh.

The only app that shows if you have been throttled is 'CPU DasherX'. Benchmark softwares can give lower scores not only because you have been throttled, but because you have updated to a newer version of iOS which is made for newer phones so it demands more CPU! Get CPU DasherX and compare the 'Current Frequency' to your phone's spec.
 
Feels like all the publications are fearful of being blacklisted by Apple. A good majority of the tech journals are swallowing Apple Koolaid. So much of their revenue is dependent on Apple that they dare not bite the hands that feed them.

Not an Android user, but I'm rooting for them. Competition is needed, Apple is more and more a monopoly and behaving like one. Imagine the day Microsoft and Apple switch places. Will be a sad day when there are more Apple haters than microsoft.
 
It's very likely that the algorithm only looks at battery charge cycles, and it's the easiest implementation.

That's obviously wrong based on what both John Poole of Geekbench and Apple themselves have said. iOS is looking for big peaks/valleys in power draw relative to the voltage remaining.
 
how many years in a row does Apple have to build their reputation by doing the right thing by their customer's trust for people to realize they're not trying to screw you out of every last dime?
 
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Why is MacRumors making false claims and defending Apple? There are millions of iPhones that were working perfectly fine at full speed on iOS 9/10, and found themselves suddenly throttled after upgrading to iOS 10/11. It was a "solution" to a problem that didn't exist, and a problem which never afflicted any other smartphone.
 
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Why is MacRumors making false claims and defending Apple? There are millions of iPhones that were working perfectly fine at full speed on iOS 10, and found themselves unnecessarily throttled after upgrading to iOS 11. It was a "solution" to a problem that didn't exist, and a problem which never afflicted any other smartphone.
Working perfectly fine....until they shut off randomly on walks. I had that experience for months, then suddenly my problem was fixed and I could actually make it through a walk without it shutting off in the cold.

Are you seriously contending that the shutdown issue this software addressed didn't exist?
 
Alright, I'll bite. What did they lie about and do you have actual evidence of it instead of assertions?

The lied that this was a solution to a problem. The problem did not exist. None of my families iPhones have ever shutdown unexpectedly, yet after upgrading to iOS 10 or 11, they get throttled for no reason. They all have 88% capacity (or higher) in their batteries.
 
The lied that this was a solution to a problem. The problem did not exist. None of my families iPhones have ever shutdown unexpectedly, yet after upgrading to iOS 10 or 11, they get throttled for no reason. They all have 88% capacity (or higher) in their batteries.
Yet my 6s was shutting down like clockwork anytime I was out for a walk in the cold and the battery was under 50(ish)%.

That wasn't real? Or perhaps maybe you think you're the center of the world and because you didn't personally see it the issue never existed?
 
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You forgot the following questions:

1. Why is the throttling being applied just last year, after 10 years of iPhones? What happened to the 5s for example?

2. Could there be a hardware design issue with regards to quality/capability of battery/system Apple is using and this throttling is just a workaround due to the bad/cheap design?

3. Why isn't Apple aiming at higher battery quality like Samsung is now adopting for S8? A typical battery degrades to 80% after 2 years, Samsung's new design only goes down to 95%.
Samsungs battery quality?
Some Samsung Note 8 owners are experiencing battery issues - Cult of Mac https://apple.news/AJvHyYtBSRVSpqmgjjOFSBw
 
Well I have ipad Air 2, and sometimes when I using it during intensive tasks it crashes and system reboots.
I think I would prefer if it would balance the power.
Hopefully Apple will release battery notification (similar too osx) and will have battery replaced. Then the ipad would live another 5+ years.
 
There is one golden lining in this thundercloud.

I am looking over Tech writers and sites that I generally use and considering their stance on Apple.

This is a golden opportunity to sort the wheat from the chaff, the scum from the honest writers. Watch and learn.

Mac Rumors : Chaff.

Another issue is Apple's protestations they were screwing us for our own good. They denied doing this for YEARS. Why would any sane individual believe anything from these people?

Absolutely Zero credibility. Zero.
 
The throttling feature for voltage issues was first added to iOS 10, not iOS 11.

Yes, but they made it much more aggressive in 11. And there was no voltage issue. Phone were not crashing because the voltage was too low. Phones were shutting down because a poorly written piece of software incorrectly determined that the battery was discharged. You can take a brand new iPhone out in the cold (~14ºF), and watch the remaining charge drop by 20% or more.
 
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You forgot the following questions:

1. Why is the throttling being applied just last year, after 10 years of iPhones? What happened to the 5s for example?

2. Could there be a hardware design issue with regards to quality/capability of battery/system Apple is using and this throttling is just a workaround due to the bad/cheap design?

3. Why isn't Apple aiming at higher battery quality like Samsung is now adopting for S8? A typical battery degrades to 80% after 2 years, Samsung's new design only goes down to 95%.

Or why did Apple remove he battery stats in iOS 10 and then restrict the information third party battery apps could get?

Why did Apple deliberately make software that throttled only specific iPhone models when their batteries reached a certain health, even though their own in store diagnostics would show the battery as poor quality below a lower health level then the throttling kicks in, like my iPhone is over 92% battery quality and throttles..

Why Apple only admitted this after it was caught red handed and their was massive data provided to back it up?

This reads as a pure damage control article disguised as a ‘guide’, this looks more and more like design flaws Apple will not be drawn on... or planned obsolescence or both..
 
For those wondering if you can get a refund, I was denied mine on a Nov 26th battery replacement done at the apple store. The cutoff date is December 14th. I am disappointed that that artificial date was set in stone for issuing refunds. A much better way to do it would have been 2 years (or whatever time ) form the day of initial sale/manufacturing.
 
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