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Also, for internal storage, Dell Home offers the Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1.5TB Serial ATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive, model no. ST31500341AS, for $165.99. Add coupon code "HNP1LLLS?ZKS48" to your cart to slice it to $105.99 with free shipping ($0.07/GB). That's $14 under our mention from two weeks ago and the lowest total price we could find. It runs at 7200 rpm and features a 32MB cache and perpendicular recording. Deal ends February 18.
 
Syonidism said:
whats the diff between ncq and ns?

also ARE they compatible with mac(Pre 08)
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Native Command Queuing (NCQ) has nothing to do with whether a drive is an enterprise drive.

Look here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Command_Queuing

Seagate's NS is equivalent to "Enterprise Storage".

I would submit that unless you system is acting as a server, it is probably best to not have NCQ enabled. Is there a way to turn it off on a Mac? It's easy enough to do in Windows Vista.

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sidewinder said:
Rationalize your choices how ever you want. But the fact that you have a backup does not make it logical to buy consumer class drives when enterprise class drives are the better choice. On a 4 drive system we are talking $204. Amortize that out over three years.....$68 per year. Penny wise, pound foolish.....

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Well, so how much more failure proof are enterprise drives, in a 12-16 hrs/day , 12 drives max. enviroment, 3-5 drives actually being in use most of the time, rest is backup (no Raid) ?
I assume there's more to it, just looking for a rough estimation.

I wouldn't mind spending the extra money, but am still wondering how those enterprise HDDs could benefit anything but an elaborate multi-drive Raid setup.
 
Horst said:
Well, so how much more failure proof are enterprise drives, in a 12-16 hrs/day , 12 drives max. enviroment, 3-5 drives actually being in use most of the time, rest is backup (no Raid) ?
I assume there's more to it, just looking for a rough estimation.

I wouldn't mind spending the extra money, but am still wondering how those enterprise HDDs could benefit anything but an elaborate multi-drive Raid setup.
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Did you miss this:

"One of the major differences between enterprise and consumer grade drives, that is often overlooked, is the increased tolerance to rotational vibration. The more drives and fans installed in a system, the more important this becomes.

Mac Pro systems hold 4 drives, 2 optical drives, and several fans. That's could add up to a lot of vibration."

RAID or not, the above applies.....

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sidewinder said:
Did you miss this:

"One of the major differences between enterprise and consumer grade drives, that is often overlooked, is the increased tolerance to rotational vibration. The more drives and fans installed in a system, the more important this becomes.

Mac Pro systems hold 4 drives, 2 optical drives, and several fans. That's could add up to a lot of vibration."
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Didn't miss this, still doesn't tell me by how much enterprise drives are safer than a WD Caviar Black or such.

Oh, and I just noticed that my Velociraptor system drive, my most important one, is rated by WD as enterprise level .
Boy, do I feel better now ;) .
 
Horst said:
Didn't miss this, still doesn't tell me by how much enterprise drives are safer than a WD Caviar Black or such.

Oh, and I just noticed that my Velociraptor system drive, my most important one, is rated by WD as enterprise level .
Boy, do I feel better now ;) .
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Aside from being designed for RAID, the spec sheets list better UBE and MTBF ratings. The bearings (better vibration tolerance), and possibly better motors, are the primary reason. ;) (A tweak or two in the firmware as well ). :)

The VR is a decent drive. Enterprise specs are more of a requirement for a 10k+ RPM drive IMO. ;) Certainly nice to have, even if you never touch a RAID configuration. :D
 
Cleve said:
Also, for internal storage, Dell Home offers the Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1.5TB Serial ATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive, model no. ST31500341AS, for $165.99. Add coupon code "HNP1LLLS?ZKS48" to your cart to slice it to $105.99 with free shipping ($0.07/GB). That's $14 under our mention from two weeks ago and the lowest total price we could find. It runs at 7200 rpm and features a 32MB cache and perpendicular recording. Deal ends February 18.
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I heard those are pretty slow, it may be better to go with the WD 2.0tb
 
I've had great success with Seagate 1TB drives. I don't think I got the bad batch where it would get bricked, so I guess I got lucky. They're plenty fast, and have large space.

I also decided to take the risk of buying Maxtor 1TB drives. And actually, they're virtually identical to the Seagates, because essentially they are re-badged Seagates. Only difference really is the warranty period, which is 3 years instead of 5.

So in total, I've got four 1TB Seagates, and two 1TB Maxtors, all working great for all the photography and video work that I do! Plenty fast! :D
 
Here is some more information on the differences between the WD Black and the RE3 directly for WD support:

FBYS (RE3) has these additional features, see product description on website:

RAFF™ - Our fourth generation RAFF technology includes sophisticated electronics to monitor the drive and correct both linear and rotational vibration in real time for up to a 60% performance improvement in high vibration environments over the previous generation of drives.

IntelliSeek™ - Calculates optimum seek speeds to lower power consumption, noise, and vibration.

Green Power Multi-axis shock sensor - Automatically detects the subtlest shock events and compensates to protect the data.

RAID-specific, time-limited error recovery (TLER) - Prevents drive fallout caused by the extended hard drive error-recovery processes common to desktop drives.

Third generation dynamic fly height - Each read-write head’s fly height is adjusted in real time for optimum reliability.

Thermal extended burn-in test - Each drive is put through extended burn-in testing with thermal cycling to ensure reliable operation.

Sold:confused:

BTW have you been into a server room and stood infront of a cabinet filled with over 100 drives in it and felt the vibrations induced by huge fans and simultaneously spinning platters running at up to 15K? You simply can't compare these with the vibrations induced by the comparatively pathetic 4 bays and a few fans inside a Mac Pro ;)
 
fiercetiger224 said:
I've had great success with Seagate 1TB drives. I don't think I got the bad batch where it would get bricked, so I guess I got lucky. They're plenty fast, and have large space.

I also decided to take the risk of buying Maxtor 1TB drives. And actually, they're virtually identical to the Seagates, because essentially they are re-badged Seagates. Only difference really is the warranty period, which is 3 years instead of 5.

So in total, I've got four 1TB Seagates, and two 1TB Maxtors, all working great for all the photography and video work that I do! Plenty fast! :D
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Drives go through a grading process, just like semiconductors. The parts that didn't pass everything necessary for the Seagate label, got the Maxtor labels, and a reduced warranty. :eek: ;)

Unfortunately, I've been burned by Maxtor once too often (~10 years ago), but the bad taste they left me with, will likely keep me from ever buying one ever again. I just don't trust them anymore, despite their acquisition by Seagate. :p
 
So does anyone recommend Samsung F1 or what? This post went to other direction. I found some posts at this link suggesting that 1Tb Sammys are not recommended for Mac use. Its is sad then, because they seem the fastest drives and that was what I was planning to put in my external RAID enclosure (possibly iMac too).
 
johnsy said:
So does anyone recommend Samsung F1 or what? This post went to other direction. I found some posts at this link suggesting that 1Tb Sammys are not recommended for Mac use. Its is sad then, because they seem the fastest drives and that was what I was planning to put in my external RAID enclosure (possibly iMac too).
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i havent had issues with the F1 sammys, and alot of people on this forum and apple discussions have also recommended it.

theyre plenty fast.
also i used the 1.5tb i have a couple of them and they all have been chugging along just fine, have been stressing them out for a while so far theyve held up for alittle over a week.

but i have experience with alot of various 1tb drives from hitachi desktar a35155 model, the samsung f1, caviar black 1tb
 
You should take a look at these reviews and draw your own conclusions; they are pretty complete for what I suspect yopu are looking for. What are your main concerns/requirements - all the top end drives will work well, some will be noiser, some more power efficient, some perhaps less reliable and perhaps you may even notice a difference in performance or perhaps not.

My take away was that the RE3 came out as the better all-rounder but if you are *specifically* looking for the best sequential throughput/transfer rates then the Samsung and Seagate are up there and your take away will differ from mine! If its just raw speed performance then it the VelociRaptor...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/hdd-terabyte-1tb,2077-16.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/hitachi-western-digital-terabyte,2017-13.html
 
Here's a vote for the Sammy F1's. I've had mine in an 8 core for almost a year. I actually was thinking about adding another 1TB, so I logged on to here to see what ppl were talking about these days. Same ol' same ol'... Comes down to personal preferences... I used to be a PC + Seagate type. Now I'm the Apple + Samsung type.
 
Syonidism said:
yeah so... what about 1.5 TB SEAGATE 7200 NCQ SATA2 32MB ST31500341AS???
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With the current seagate problems, I would stay away from any of their bigger drives until they work things out. I just got an external 1.5 and it has been giving me time machine errors since the day I got it. I'm sure seagate will be reliable again at some point, but life's too short to mess around with something that still looks like it's risky.
 
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