Apple's fast charging is based on USB-C Power Delivery (USB PD). USB-A fast chargers will not work. They're probably based on Qualcomm Quick Charge.
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Fast Charging Cost Extra, WTF!
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Apple's fast charging is based on USB-C Power Delivery (USB PD). USB-A fast chargers will not work. They're probably based on Qualcomm Quick Charge.
Or they could include it with the 1k+ purchase price like all other phone manufacturers that have fast charging.
Some here actually thought that at the price of the X, they will give you the wireless earbuds and fast charger!
Some even thought we were getting AirPods. lol.
Better for customers lol
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29w charger with the USB-type c to lightening.
In a sense, no. But in another sense, they are extraordinary regarding customer service, and good will gestures if something happens to break out of warranty or is borderline rejectable for repair.
I remember my very first experience with Apple was when the cheap EarPods with my old iPod nano? started to disintegrate. I walked into Apple (my first time going in for customer service) with the full intention of just buying a brand new set out of pocket. I simply asked where they kept the replacements for purchase. The employee told me to sit tight, and came back with one and gave it to me. I still didn't understand at this point that he was just giving it to me, so I was a bit awkward with the exchange, and probably overly thanked him for his kindness.
They got me right then and there. Now, maybe a decade or more later, I am still buying their products, and they have been more than generous with repairs, replacements, etc. throughout the years just like that first time. Most recently I was given a free Apple leather case for my 6 Plus.
How are they able to be so generous and provide this level of service and good will? It's the profit margins they charge up front. Same with Nike. If you've ever tested Nike's customer service or return policy, it's one of the best in business. You can wear a new pair of shoes, do whatever in them, and return them within 30 days if they don't work out. Full refund. How does Nike do it? Well, they charge outrageous profit margins up front on their products.
So while these types of companies charge a lot up front, they also give back a lot to their customers. I actually prefer these types of businesses, because you can always find products on sale, and let full price customers pay those good will funds.
What freebies have they given away since 2013 with any iphone purchase since the 5s?
Someone wrote an article explaining why USB-C is needed. It’s supposedly a limitation with lightning which is idiotic since no one else in the industry had this issue.
Samsung has been fast charging over micro usb for years and now supports usb-c and it all ships in the box. It’s the default standard.
I have no idea what the hell Apple is doing.
I think this gets overlooked a lot. Apple still leads by a wide margin in post sales support of their devices, and that's all of them, from iphones to ipads to macs to basically whatever they sell in store or online.
I can understand the frustration of not getting a fast charger in the box and fast charge cable. I think some are pushing it asking for Airpods and wireless charging pads too though. Other OEMs like Samsung do that as promotions, it's not automatically bundled in the box. And they do it because they feel like they have to in order to get sales, from giving VR away to sd cards/wireless charging pads/etc and even BOGO free offers early in its release. AS OF NOW, Apple is in a position they do not have to do these things to get the products selling. That may change in the future, but for now they don't have to do it.
You're joking right? The current prices warrant accessories to be included. The new MBP doesn't even include an extended cable for the power supply.
This.
A greedy dongle company.
It's not just iPhone. When they started selling the new MacBook Pro's the greedy Apple couldn't even include the extra cable for the charger to extend the length. The way it has been for decades. Suddenly Apple thinks it's ok to make the user pay extra for a longer charging cable.
It's just really disappointing where Apple is heading.
- They're becoming too fragmented.
- All over the place, no real direction. iPhone has lightning port, everything else USB-C and it creates a big connectivity mess. The iPhone 7, 8 & X can't even connect to Apple's latest laptops without dongles/ cables.
- Too greedy. Don't include adapters/ cables that are standard with other brands.
Ugh I actually wouldn't want them included.... I have a stack of free included EarPods and chargers. When they don't break every time you buy an Apple device and you only really need one even for multiple devices they stack up. It really only makes sense to include the base level and then to upgrade as needed. I already have wireless beats I use for the gym. I wouldn't want to slowly accumulate three sets of AirPods over 5 years too like I have 8 chargers and 4 set of EarPods as well.
Apple wanted a cable that could be plugged in in any direction. That’s not micro USB. To me that’s “what the hell” Apple is doing.
It’s worth repeating...you can’t connect the iPhone to a MacBook without a dongle. Yeah that’s Tim Cook’s Apple.
But courage...
If that’s the direction Apple wants to go then change iPads and iPhones to USB-C. Common sense, yeah.
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Zoooooooom. Right over your head, but I’ll play along.
Then why aren’t iPhone X’s USB-C to match Apple’s change on the MacBook. If not that why aren’t chargers with iPhone X’s shipping lighting to USB-C cables?
But ecosystem...
Why is Apple the only company that can’t get fast charging right out the box and requires special bricks and cables?
Because doubling down on courage?
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So after looking at all available lower cost alternatives to Apple's 29W Power Supply, it still costs $50 to get an equivalent Anker Power Delivery Charger along with an Apple USB-C to Lightning cable ($25!). You can't use any other aftermarket cables because they don't support Power Delivery.
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Okay I'll play your game. PROFITS!
Apple isn't changing the iphone from lightning to anything fast. Apple has never included in the box, accessories which may or may not be needed by everyone. As far as quick charging, that goes to the above point. If it isn't mandatory for usage out of the box apple won't include it. If you are against their policies than don't buy their hardware. Very simple.
Instead you get unmatched support, longevity, better ecosystem than google (imo), better apps (imo) plus whatever else anyone deems an advantage.
There are USB-C to lightning cables. In fact, they're required to get fast charging to work with the 10.5" iPad Pro. and these new iPhones.
They should be including a USB-C cable since they are going that route for the Macbooks.
But I guess they can just accessorize it while they can and make that extra $$$....which is sad that some people seem to be ok with.
You mean like little lightning to 3.5 adaptors?
Or extension cables with Macs?
Like those times never?