Fastest Bootable Bootcamp SSD for 2010 Mac Pro

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  1. MikeX macrumors newbie

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    I have an original Mac Pro 2010 with 64GB ram. I want to run Windows Server 2016 on it.

    - What would be the fastest SSD I can use for booting to Windows, which is equal or larger than 512GB?
    - Which M2 card would work well?
     
  2. h9826790 macrumors 604

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    I think it's been proved many times that for normal booting, almost any SSD are the same. The bottleneck seems not at there.

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  3. SoyCapitanSoyCapitan macrumors 68040

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    Just get a Samsung Evo 850. Doesn't matter SATA 2 or 3 interface. Boot speeds don't climb just because the interface or disk has a higher maximum bandwidth.

    Some newer computers boot faster because they have firmware support for quick booting from hibernation files. The Mac Pro doesn't have that.
     
  4. chrfr macrumors 603

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    The OP is asking about booting into Bootcamp, not boot speeds. SSDs installed on PCIe cards in Mac Pros can be much faster than SATA SSDs in Mac Pros. Some of the cards will allow the computer to boot into Windows, but many will not.
     
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    Thanks we know about disks around here.
     
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    After a critical slowdown, I avoid TLC now.
     
  7. Slash-2CPU macrumors member

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    Fastest by far is the Samsung XP941 and SM951 AHCI. Only AHCI M.2 cards are bootable in 2009/2010 Mac Pro.

    PCIe M.2 allows ~1.6GB/s in that system. The drive bays top out around 0.28GB/s.
     
  8. MikeX thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I don't mean the booting speed. I mean running Windows.

    I have Evo 850 on C: right now. I get a steady 180 MB and since I'm running a lot of VMs that's a bottleneck for me.
     
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    h9826790 macrumors 604

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    Sorry for my poor English, I thought OP means "fastest booting into Windows", but not "the fastest SSD that can boot into Windows". Obviously I was wrong.

    In this case, someone claim that he can run bootcamp on a SM951 (AHCI), not 100% sure how to do that, but that's should be the fastest (non RAID) SSD that can be use in Windows.

    In any case, you can simply boot from a SATA SSD and then use a SM951 for your work.
     
  10. Slash-2CPU macrumors member

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    Fastest by far is the Samsung XP941 and SM951 AHCI. Only AHCI M.2 cards are bootable in 2009/2010 Mac Pro.

    PCIe M.2 allows ~1.6GB/s in that system. The drive bays top out around 0.28GB/s.

    If you really want to squeeze every last ounce of constant speed from them, go read up on adding a little (1" square) stick-on heatsink to the M.2 drive's controller chip. No throttling ever that way. There are some available cheap, marketed for Raspberry Pi stuff that work nicely.

    Any $20 dumb passthrough PCIe x4 to M.2 card adapter will work perfectly.
     
  11. MikeX thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Slash, tx a lot!

    By the way, SM951 AHCI seems pretty hard to get in Germany. I could only find the https://www.amazon.de/Samsung-SM951-128GB-Solid-Drives/dp/B00VELD5D8 which is 128gb.

    Everything available is nvme. I'm assuming nvme, does not work for Windows for boot drive on MP 2010, correct?
     
  12. Slash-2CPU, Jan 1, 2017
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    Correct. NVMe is not bootable in 2010 MP, not in Win; not in Mac OS.

    May be worth a look on ebay. A lot of gamers bought the XP and SM's and only used them until the NVMe 950 Pro came out.

    In real use, the SM951 will be a tiny bit faster than the XP941. Probably not noticeable.
     

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