MP 1,1-5,1 MP5,1: What you have to do to upgrade to Mojave (BootROM upgrade instructions thread)

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    Please fully read this first post, you will probably find that you have one or more problems described into the various notes below.

    Mojave will only install if you have upgraded your BootROM and your Mac Pro have a Metal capable GPU.

    If you are trying to install Mojave on a Mac Pro 5,1 (2009 updated to 5,1 firmware, 2010 and 2012), you have first to upgrade your BootROM to version MP51.0089.B00 and to High Sierra 10.13.6, then you can install a Metal capable GPU and install Mojave.

    You can read the Apple Support article here: Install macOS 10.14 Mojave on Mac Pro (Mid 2010) and Mac Pro (Mid 2012).

    Remember: Apple Mojave recommend RX-560/580 cards do not have pre-boot configuration support (boot screens), so you need to install your original Mac EFI GPU to upgrade your BootROM to MP51.0089.B00 using the Mac App Store High Sierra 10.13.6 full installer. After that, Mojave installer can upgrade your firmware without the need of a Mac EFI GPU and requires that you only have Metal supported cards installed in your Mac Pro.

    The Apple third-party graphics cards list identifies specific cards that are compatible:
    • MSI Gaming Radeon RX 560 128-bit 4GB GDDR5
    • SAPPHIRE Radeon PULSE RX 580 8GB GDDR5
    • SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7950 Mac Edition
    • NVIDIA Quadro K5000 for Mac
    • NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 Mac Edition
    The three cards listed in bold above have pre-boot configuration support/Mac EFI.

    The list also identifies cards that might be compatible, none of which have pre-boot configuration support/Mac EFI:
    • AMD Radeon RX 560
    • AMD Radeon RX 570
    • AMD Radeon RX 580
    • AMD Radeon Pro WX 7100
    • AMD Radeon RX Vega 56
    • AMD Radeon RX Vega 64
    • AMD Radeon Pro WX 9100
    • AMD Radeon Frontier Edition

    - Hacked installs note:

    If you did a hacked install, like dosdude one, you will probably need to do a clean install to upgrade your firmware.

    Only the full Mac App Store installers work for upgrading the firmware, macOS installers patched with dosdude tool can't upgrade the firmware. Apple firmware upgrade tool needs a clean and standard EFI partition to do so, so you probably need to do a clean install before trying to upgrade the firmware if you used a hacked install.
    - RAID & SATA III PCIe cards note:

    You can't upgrade your firmware if you are booting from a RAID array or using a SATA III card. Remove all RAID drives and boot from a SATA drive connected into a native SATA port. Btw, Mojave don't boot from SoftwareRAID arrays or any hardware array that present to the OS as multiple disks.
    Sometimes people can't upgrade from PCIe AHCI and NVMe blades too, so use the same advice if you have any problems while upgrading the firmware.​

    - Homemade Fusion drives note:

    Mojave has to be installed with APFS and the way Fusion drives are made changed. Use a SATA disk installed on the south bridge ports to do all firmware upgrades and the Mojave install. After you already upgrade your Mac Pro firmware to 144.0.0.0.0 and Mojave is installed, you can recreate the Fusion drive.​

    - Upgrade firmware from USB note:

    You can’t upgrade Mac Pro firmware from createinstallmedia USB-key. Do it from macOS. It only works if you have the exact original config and if your Mac Pro is 2010/2012. Don’t waste your time trying, the USB installer asks for you to shutdown and then never power off your Mac Pro.​

    - Kepler NVIDIA GPUs (GT 640/740, GTX 670/680/780, Quadro K5000) note:

    If you have a supported NVIDIA Kepler GPU like GTX 680 Mac Edition card, GTX 680 flashed with the Mac Edition firmware, GT 640/740, GTX 670/770/780 or a Quadro K5000 you can't do a USB clean install with it at the moment. The USB installer don't detect that the GPU is a Metal supported card and don't continue the install, it's a bug with Nvidia Kepler GPUs.

    To do a clean install, do from macOS with two drives - just select your empty one when doing the install.​

    - Bluetooth keyboards/mice note:

    A lot of people have problems installing macOS with Apple and third party bluetooth keyboards/mice. It's best to use wired ones.​

    - Stuttering audio with Dual Processors MP4,1 upgraded to MP5,1 firmware when running Mojave note:

    Be aware that on Dual Processors MP4,1>5,1 machines that still have the original Gainestown processors (Xeon 55xx-series), after installing Mojave you will have stuttering audio problems that only can be solved upgrading the Xeon processors to Westmere (Xeon 56xx-series), read about on this thread Strange Audio Issue on MP 4,1>5,1 Mojave 10.14.4.
    This is a problem exclusive of Dual Processor MP4,1 and single CPU MP4,1 don't have this problem at all.​

    - Mojave black screens with AMD Polaris GPUs (RX 4xx/5xx) note:

    Some people are getting black screens with Mojave when using RX 4xx/5xx GPUs, if you are having it, do a clean install or debug your kexts, seems a problem with incompatible Air Display kexts. Read here.​

    - 144.0.0.0.0 and previous macOS releases note:

    Firmware 144.0.0.0.0 can boot even 10.6.8, but you are limited to GPU driver support since you can't boot a macOS versions that don't have drivers for your GPU. For example, with RX 4xx/5xx, you are limited to 10.12.6/10.13/10.14. Btw, you can upgrade your firmware to 144.0.0.0.0 without installing Mojave, just close the installer after the firmware upgrade is done.
    - 144.0.0.0.0 and High Sierra with HFS+ drives note:

    If you want to upgrade to BootROM 144.0.0.0.0 and don't want to upgrade to Mojave, just close the Mojave installer when the installer opens again post firmware upgrade completion. Mojave changes your main drive to APFS, but if you end the install process after the firmware upgrade, nothing will be changed.
    - 144.0.0.0.0, High Sierra and Mojave METAL unsupported NVIDIA GPUs:

    If you want to upgrade to BootROM 144.0.0.0.0 to use High Sierra and a Maxwell or Pascal NVIDIA GPU, if your GPU is working correctly with High Sierra NVIDIA WEB drivers, you can use the Mojave installer to upgrade the BootROM. Lot's of people have been using GTX 980/1080 and upgrading to current BootROMs without any problems.
    - 140.0.0.0.0 to 144.0.0.0.0 firmware upgrade note:

    The fail-proof way to upgrade a MP5,1 firmware is to fully erase a SATA drive, install High Sierra 10.13.6 to it, download 10.14.5 full installer, clear the NVRAM 3 times in sequence, after that you try to upgrade the firmware running the Mojave full installer.

    See this thread Updating my MacPro 5.1 from 140.0.0.0.0 to 144.0.0.0.0 does not work

    If you have a earlier than MP51.0089.B00 BootROM version, these are the steps to upgrade your BootROM to have Mojave support:

    1. Disconnect any 4K or DP1.2 display. You can't update to MP51.0089.B00 with a 4K/DP1.2 screen connected to your Mac EFI GPU. It's a old bug that Apple corrected with MP6,1 and "forgot" to correct with the MP5,1. MP5,1 efiflasher don't support 4K screens or DP1.2, you can reconnect after you update your BootROM. If you monitor has a option to downgrade to DP1.1, use it, if not, you will need another monitor.
    2. Disable FileVault2 if enabled, since FV2 is not supported anymore with a Mac Pro 5,1 running Mojave.
    3. Install a Mac EFI64 GPU. Any original Apple card from 2008 to 2012 (HD 2600XT, 8800GT, Quadro FX 5600, GT120, HD 4870/5770/5870) or 3rd party Mac EFI cards like Sapphire HD 7950 Mac Edition, eVGA GTX 680 Mac Edition, NVIDIA Quadro 4000/K5000 or self-flashed/MVC flashed cards. Please note that if your flashed GPU is not macOS installer compatible, like NVIDIA Maxwell and Pascal, you need to install one that is.
    4. If you use a SATA III PCIe card, remove your drive from the card and install into the Mac Pro SATA II ports, a lot of people report trouble doing the firmware upgrade with SATA III PCIe cards.
    5. If you ever downloaded any previous version of High Sierra, have it saved in any of Mac Pro external drives, you have to delete it/move to a offline disk and then restart your Mac. You need the current High Sierra 10.13.6 full installer from the Mac App Store, no previous version have the needed MP51.0089.B00 BootROM.
    6. This is the Apple Support page where you can get the link for the 10.13.6 Mac App Store Installer (you need this even if you already are on 10.13.6). see the image below. Note, if you never used Mac App Store before, you need to validate your account first and download a free app before trying to get High Sierra Screen Shot 2018-10-09 at 13.55.05.png
    7. Open the High Sierra 10.13.6 Mac App Store full installer, do the firmware upgrade as asked.
    8. After the firmware upgrade, High Sierra installer will open again, you can close it.
    9. Now check if your Mac Pro BootROM is MP51.0089.B00, if yes you can shutdown and install your Metal capable GPU (any AMD equal or newer than HD 7xxx, NVIDIA GTX 680 Mac Edition, Quadro K5000 and other NVIDIA Kepler cards). [If you have a NVIDIA card that need the web driver, Maxwell and Pascal ones, wait for NVIDIA release it for Mojave if ever…]
    10. Download the full Mac App Store installer for Mojave. If you ever downloaded any previous version of Mojave, have it saved in any of Mac Pro external drives, you have to delete it/move to a offline disk and then restart your Mac. You need the current Mojave 10.14.5 or 10.14.6 full installer from the Mac App Store, no previous version have the needed 144.0.0.0.0 BootROM.
    11. Open the installer, do the firmware upgrade as asked. (Note, if you never used Mac App Store before, you need to validate your account first and download a free app before trying to get Mojave).
    12. After the reboot, open System Information and check if you have BootROM 144.0.0.0.0, if yes, you can do a createinstallmedia USB clean install (read NVIDIA GTX 680/780/Quadro K5000 note) or upgrade your previous High Sierra install.


    - Mac Pro 5,1 firmware releases, from the oldest to the newest:


    Mac Pro EFI Firmware Update 1.5 with MP51.007F.B03 First public released Mac Pro 5,1 firmware update
    10.13 DP5 with MP51.0083.B00 with initial APFS support
    10.13 DP6 with MP51.0084.B00 with APFS support
    10.13.4 with MP51.085.B00 (Mojave DP1/DP2/PB1/DP3/PB2 too)
    10.13.5 with MP51.087.B00 missing the Intel Xeon microcodes
    10.13.6 with MP51.089.B00 updating to the Spectre mitigated microcodes on the April 2 Microcode Update Guidance.
    10.14 DP7/PB6 with 138.0.0.0.0 with 5GT/s and new microcodes
    10.14.1 DP1 with 139.0.0.0.0
    10.14.1 DP3 with 140.0.0.0.0 with NVMe support
    10.14.4 DP2 with 141.0.0.0.0 minor updates
    10.14.4 DP4 with 142.0.0.0.0 W3xxx Xeon "bricker" & updated APFSJumpStart EFI module
    10.14.4 final with 141.0.0.0.0 minor updates
    10.14.5 DP1 with 142.0.0.0.0 again with W3xxx Xeon "bricker"
    10.14.5 DP2 back to 141.0.0.0.0
    10.14.5 DP4 with 144.0.0.0.0 lot's of corrections, booting improvements
    10.14.5 final with 144.0.0.0.0 lot's of corrections, booting improvements

    BootROM VersionReleased with:Type:Note:
    MP51.007F.B03Mac Pro EFI Firmware Update 1.5General releaseFirst public released Mac Pro 5,1 firmware update
    MP51.0083.B0010.13 DP5BetaBeta APFS support
    MP51.0084.B0010.13 DP6 and 10.13.0General releaseInitial APFS support
    MP51.0085.B0010.13.4 and Mojave DP1 to DP3General release APFS support
    MP51.0087.B0010.13.5General release Missing microcodes
    MP51.0089.B0010.13.6General release Spectre/Meltdown mitigated microcodes on the April 2 Microcode Update Guidance.
    138.0.0.0.010.14 DP7 and 10.14.0General release 5GT/s support for every PCIe 2.0 card
    139.0.0.0.010.14.1 DP1Betaminor updates and corrections
    140.0.0.0.010.14.1 DP3 and 10.14.1 to 10.14.4General release NVMe boot, minor updates and corrections
    141.0.0.0.010.14.4 DP2Betaminor updates and corrections
    142.0.0.0.010.14.4 DP4 and 10.14.5 DP1BetaUpdated APFSJumpStart EFI module - W3xxx Xeon bricker
    144.0.0.0.010.14.5 DP4 and 10.14.5General release lot's of corrections, booting improvements. This is the current BootROM release




    If nothing above works for you, try this:

    1. Download El Capitan (10.11.6) or Sierra (10.12.6) - don't use 10.13/10.14 to this, both require firmware updates to install. Download from the Mac App Store, don't use hacked installs, torrents, etc.
    2. Use createinstallmedia to create a USB key installer.
    3. Shutdown your Mac Pro and remove all PCIe cards except your Mac EFI GPU.
    4. Clear your Mac Pro SMC and NVRAM.
    5. Remove all disks except the one that you will do a clean install of 10.11.6/10.12.6.
    6. Power on your Mac Pro and do a clean install of 10.11.6/10.12.6.
    7. After 10.11.6/10.12.6 is installed, download 10.13.6 full Mac App Store installer and open it, the High Sierra installer will ask you to perform a firmware update, shutdown your Mac Pro and do it. Download from the Mac App Store, don't use hacked installs, torrents, etc.
    8. After your Mac Pro restarts, close the installer and go to SystemInformation and check if your BootROM is MP51.0089.B00 now. If not, you did something wrong.
    9. Use createinstallmedia to create a USB key installer of High Sierra, power off your Mac Pro.
    10. Power on your Mac Pro, boot from the createinstallmedia USB-key and do a clean install of 10.13.6 - always do clean installs.
    11. After 10.13.6 is installed, shutdown your Mac Pro and replace your original GPU with a Metal supported one.
    12. Power on your Mac Pro and download 10.14.5 full Mac App Store installer. Download from the Mac App Store, don't use hacked installs, torrents, etc. Open it, the Mojave installer will ask you to perform a firmware update, shutdown your Mac Pro and do it.
    13. After your Mac Pro restarts, check if your BootROM is 144.0.0.0.0, if it is, you can create a USB-key and do a clean install of Mojave now. If you have a NVIDIA GTX 680, then you have to do a clean install from your 10.13.6 disk into another disk, since USB installer has a bug that don't identify GT640/740, GTX 680/780/Quadro K5000 as a METAL supported GPU.
     
  2. Socket macrumors regular

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    Thank you! What are the correct steps to upgrade with a RX580?
     
  3. tsialex thread starter macrumors 603

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    Exactly the same.
     
  4. fhturner macrumors 6502

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    Hey Alexandre, do you (or anyone else) know if you can skip the 10.13.6 installation requirement if you at least have the 0089 firmware and maybe manually tweak your SystemVersion.plist file to show 10.13.6 instead of an earlier system? Just wondering for those that might want to go straight from Sierra or ElCap without the intermediate step, for example.
     
  5. bsbeamer macrumors 68020

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    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208898

    Update to macOS High Sierra 10.13.6
    First, use the Mac App Store to update your operating system to macOS High Sierra 10.13.6. Don't upgrade your Mac Pro (Mid 2010) or Mac Pro (Mid 2012) to macOS Mojave directly from macOS versions prior to 10.13.6.
     
  6. fhturner macrumors 6502

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    Thanks for that. I have a feeling tho, that has more to do with the progression of firmware updates from pre-0089 to 0089 to 138.0.0.0. Since you only get 0089 with the full 10.13.6 installer, I’d guess that’s why they say not to go from an earlier version. The OS installer shouldn’t really care what’s on the disk already, since you might need to install on a blank drive, and that usually works without requiring a prior version.
     
  7. zemaker macrumors regular

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    this should be made sticky to save people lots of headaches.
     
  8. tsialex thread starter macrumors 603

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    Don't do this, you will risk loosing your data. Backup your files, upgrade your firmware and then do a clean install.
     
  9. Socket macrumors regular

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    Ok tks
    Now I've 0089 installed yet on my High Sierra 10.13.6
    I can make the firmware upgrade for Mojave + Installation Mojave with only the rx580? I will see the screens correctly? Or it wil be all black in my monitor?
     
  10. fhturner macrumors 6502

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    It’ll be black while the firmware update occurs, but it’ll still work, then eventually restart you to where you can see the screen again.
     
  11. tsialex thread starter macrumors 603

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    APFS conversion. If you are installing on a blank drive, upgrade your firmware and do a clean install via createinstallmedia pendrive or startosinstall.
     
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    Notice this part at the end (of the article linked by bsbeamer)?

    Guess we aren’t gonna get a fix for the lack of boot screen anytime soon...
     
  13. bsbeamer macrumors 68020

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    No, there will be no fixes for boot screens or FileVault. These MacPro machines will basically operate like they have for non-EFI NVIDIA users that were utilizing NVIDIA Web Drivers in 10.13.6 and previous.

    The exception being the EVGA/NVIDIA GTX 680 Mac Edition no longer works with FileVault in Mojave. All other Metal compatible EFI GPUs are also impacted by this according to the notes for MP5,1: "You also need to turn off FileVault." (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208898)
     
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    At this moment my MP have the last Beta of Mojave, but BootRom MP51.0085.B00... I need to do all the steps of the OP??
     
  15. tsialex thread starter macrumors 603

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    Download the Full Mojave installer and upgrade your BootROM.
     
  16. bsbeamer macrumors 68020

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    Do you have a bootable clone of 10.13.X and an EFI GPU?

    If so, install the EFI GPU and boot into 10.13.X. Download the latest High Sierra installer (10.13.6) with the EFI GPU installed. Follow the screen prompts for firmware update.

    If not, I'd suggest trying to download the latest High Sierra installer from the App Store when booting into Mojave Beta with an EFI GPU installed. This may (or may not) prompt for firmware update to MP51.0089.B00. Unsure if it would be recognized appropriately.

    Your situation is unique. Most who installed Mojave betas were already on 138.0.0.0.0. If the above do not work, you MAY need to install a fresh copy of High Sierra on a blank drive for the firmware update to be recognized.
     
  17. bjar, Sep 24, 2018
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    Now running mojave! Only thing not working is Bluetooth. I had upgraded my Bluetooth and ran the continuity activation tool in high Sierra, or maybe Sierra, some time ago. So I am assuming it has something to do with that. Will research later. Just happy to be running mojave.

    Edit-SMC reset fixed Bluetooth.
     
  18. xlys macrumors newbie

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    my boot rom is MP51.0085.B00 and i m using mojave beta 9 since i have the RX460 4Gb , and i am getting an error , what should i do now ? please help
     
  19. Cave Man macrumors 604

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    I did the 10.13.6 installer but my firmware is MP51.0085.B00

    Mac Pro 5,1 dual 6-core Xeon, 2.66 GHz, 128 GB RAM, Fusion drive (128 GB SSD + 2 TB HD).
     
  20. tsialex thread starter macrumors 603

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    If you shows us what error is, maybe we can help…
     
  21. xlys macrumors newbie

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    this is the error
     

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    Did you installed a EFI GPU? You need a EFI one to update to MP51.0089.B00

    Downloaded the full Mac App Store installer, not the update one? Just update from a previous HighSierra version will not upgrade your firmware.

    Did you put your Mac Pro on Firmware Programming Mode correctly?

    --- Post Merged, Sep 24, 2018 ---
    FileVault is disabled? Did you have other videocards installed? RX-460 is not on the Apple list of supported cards and some here had problems with RX-480 too.
     
  23. Maxx1987 macrumors newbie

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    Hi,

    I recently got a Mac Pro 5,1 (2010) and bought a Club 3D AMD Radeon R9 280X RoyalQueen graphics card.
    I don't need much graphics power, but I do want to upgrade to Mojave.
    The card works fine under High Sierra (10.13.6) and when I launch the Mojave installer it also says the firmware needs to be upgraded. But when I shutdown and boot up the Mac Pro (as told by the Mojave installer) it doesn't beep (what normally happens when a firmware update is installed) and just shuts down and reboots again. I think this happens because the graphics card I bought isn't a flashed card and doesn't support boot screens.

    Can anybody help?
     
  24. xlys macrumors newbie

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    i never used file vault actually and i had the original 5770 but its not working anymore and i only have this 460.. and just can't pay for the new card because even rx560 coast atleast $480 in my home country.
     
  25. tsialex thread starter macrumors 603

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    Do as I say on the first post.
    --- Post Merged, Sep 24, 2018 ---
    I’ll PM you with instructions.
     
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