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FCC Document Details New Apple-Developed Wireless Beats Solo2 Headphones

Tucom said:
I don't see how anything can be more sturdy than a solid aluminum/metal design that the Pros and Mixrs employ. I'm talking about the Pros and Mixrs only. Could you explain how the headphones you mentioned are sturdier?
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I don't rememebr the specifics but I know that they're made in Germany and out of some military-grade or whatever plastic.

There's actually a YouTube video on it, it's rather silly but shows how sturdy they are: "Most unbreakable headphones on the planet? JFB 8.35 D" I believe there's a video out there where it gets run over by a vehicle.

Aluminum is of course very tough, but in real-world cases flexible plastic might be more suitable.
 
iphonehype said:
What will sound quality be like? IMO nothing beats Bose and I find Dr Dres very poor quality comparing to budget headphones, forget comparing them to high end headphones!!
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You do know that audio sound is an extremely objective topic? Both Bose and Beats have built successful brands around exceptionally strong marketing. People hate on Beats due to its ties to the mainstream and Dr. Dre. While other people find Bose's sound to be overrated and lacking base. At the end of the day, it really comes down to personal preference. I've had both brands' products and I personally prefer the depth of sound that Beats offers. I also don't find one manufacturer's product to be a better quality build over the other.

My hope is that Apple engineering can continue to help make the former Beats sound a best-in-class experience.
 
iphonehype said:
What will sound quality be like? IMO nothing beats Bose and I find Dr Dres very poor quality comparing to budget headphones, forget comparing them to high end headphones!!
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Have you heard the new solo 2 and studio and studio wireless? They are much better and it is not just me saying it all the reviews are great even at well respected headphone review sites like inner fidelity. The new beats are worlds better than the first generations. Im not an audiophile, thankfully since they are annoying... but I've used bose, v-moda, seinheisser, band and olefson and many other brands and the new beats are comparable if your using mp3s like most of us. The beats studio wireless are better than any bose wireless ones and they can be found for $300 now.. these people who continue to hate on beats just haven't heard the newest models or don't know about technology, or just find it cool now to hate on them. You might be able to get slightly better sound if your an audiophile but the thing they forget is most of us use an mp3 player and are on the go so sound quality can only get so good before you start sounding like a snob. and at least you don't look like a total geek with some ugly audio technica, or seinhesser bulky headphones on
 
cocky jeremy said:
Improve the quality drastically and I might be interested.. one day. For now, nope.
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you do know even inner fidelity, a well respected headphone reviewer, has given the solos 2 and beats studio/wireless good reviews right? I dont get you people its like you ignore facts or just live in the past. Yes beats did kind of suck a year or two ago but their new headphones are great and won't break or crack like last gens models. the people who hate on beats continue to do it despite the fact that they are actually good now and look good. you see things as you want to and ignore all the reviews to twist your negative views and opinions into what you believe is the truth about them cause you hate them. you can't improve the sound on the new models drastically unless you want to spend a grand for audiophile headphones that won't even sound better unless you have an amp and don't use regular mp3s that aren't enormous in size.
 
The original Beats wireless were fantastic. I still use them at least 5 times a week at the gym. They are extremely comfortable, get loud and sound great for popular music play back.

The Solo 2 sounds great but my issue is that they are way too uncomfortable. They seem to lack flexibility and were designed for a teenage girls head.

That's not a diss, but rather a call for the original design to make a return.
 
I have both powerbeats 2 wireless and bose noise-canceling in-ear headphones and both sound really nice to me. My car has harmon cardon speakers and all three sound so familiar to me.

Beats and Bose get crapped on so badly but they didn't sound much different than the Shure ones I had years ago.
 
coolfactor said:
Is this commentary from the echo chamber, or do Beats headphones really lack in sound quality? How can that be if they are making such high margins on the products? Is it all about the brand, and they could care less about the quality?

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Got a comparison to point to?
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Im an music technology student in my 3rd year at university. As a budding audio engineer who knows a thing or two about sound quality, I can assure you that 'Beats By Dre' are the most overpriced headphones on the market. They sound absolutely terrible, you're just paying for the brand and design.
 
OtherJesus said:
The original Beats wireless were fantastic. I still use them at least 5 times a week at the gym. They are extremely comfortable, get loud and sound great for popular music play back.
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I heard the original ones years ago and when they were turned up, they vibrated on my ear.. literally tickling my ear.
 
AdonisSMU said:
I prefer the studio wireless. They sound great.
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Just FYI, I'm afraid to tell you the only reason why you 'think' they sound good is because the headphones are applying a load of post processing to your audio signal. You're NOT hearing your music how the artist intended, you're hearing it how D.r Dre did.

If you enjoy that particular sound however, then more power to you. Im just telling you that they are not some amazing high quality headphones.

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slipper said:
Turning point was when Beats was founded
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Unfortunately I disagree. Apple continues to sell their headphones. If they were to take them all off the market, and completely re-engineer them, then i'd say Beats was at a turning point.
 
Tucom said:
A lot of this Beats hate that's here in this thread seems to be from ignorance; Beats has gotten IMMENSELY better than what they used to be. They're now quality, sound great, and are well built.


Here's a review from a well respected headphone guru: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwTUKK3_wvg&list=UU6BW8DqrAmBEIeCtMa4bfBw

Highly rates them.

And as others have noted, the Beats Pros sound right up there the Audio Technica ATH-M50's, though the Pro's cost about twice as much, but if you factor in the design and build quality, the Pro's can be viewed as a good investment.
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I don't think you're giving people enough credit for maybe knowing what they are talking about. All Beats headphones don't exeude the build or sound quality their cost suggest period !!!!! The improvements they've made are still not enough !!!!!
 
I have had a pair of Beats Solo HD for over 2 years. I went to an Apple store and listened to all the headphones they had on display. They all sounded great to 50+ year old ears.

I chose the Beats as they folded away for travel, were, on the ear, and closed back to help eliminate ambient sounds and also did not annoy the person next to me. They also allowed me to use my iPhone to make calls when out and about. They have put up with use in windy and rainy conditions. They have lasted well and i am pleased I bought them for the use I have had.

I own Sennheiser, Blackbox, Sony and Phillips headphones that cost about half the price of the Beats and I prefer the beats sound by miles, and that after all is all that matters to me.
 
stewdaviesuk said:
I have had a pair of Beats Solo HD for over 2 years. I went to an Apple store and listened to all the headphones they had on display. They all sounded great to 50+ year old ears.

I chose the Beats as they folded away for travel, were, on the ear, and closed back to help eliminate ambient sounds and also did not annoy the person next to me. They also allowed me to use my iPhone to make calls when out and about. They have put up with use in windy and rainy conditions. They have lasted well and i am pleased I bought them for the use I have had.

I own Sennheiser, Blackbox, Sony and Phillips headphones that cost about half the price of the Beats and I prefer the beats sound by miles, and that after all is all that matters to me.
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That's why they are half the price. I would compare comparably priced headphones to beats rather than cheaper headphones. That seems like a more apples to apples comparison. Beats are really good when they are good. However, the beats headphones that sound bad sound really bad.... like those wireless buds lebron was promoting with his commercial.
 
Icaras said:
I just purchased my first Beats product a few months ago with the new Solo2 headphones. I've never heard previous Beats headphones but I've owned several top of the line studio headphones from Sony, Pioneer, and Sennheiser over the years and these Beats sound good to me. For some folks, they may not be the best sounding, and although a little pricey, I do find the sound quality to be very good and nothing from the previous companies I've mentioned have anything that can match Beats sleek aesthetic design in my opinion. I think Pioneer comes close to design but still has a more of that industrial look, which actually may still appeal more to others depending on personal preference. But I find the screw less design of Beats very sleek and elegant looking.

Anyway, just looks like a lot of angry audiophiles in here getting their panties all tied up in a bunch. I look forward to checking these new headphones out when they get released and hope they'll support wireless AAC to optimize wireless sound quality for Apple devices.
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I also bought new headphones a month or 2 ago. Mine cost less, sound better, squeeze my head less, fit over my ears, and are ACTUALLY studio headphones...that are used in studios. But now that I've commented on that, I suppose I'm "angry", cause your opinion is more important. :rolleyes:

BTW, listening to a bass (a bass, it's an instrument) with these ATs is amazing. Actually makes me want to listen to them occasionally instead of my home system. Of course, it isn't over-punched at 80-100Hz.
 
JAT said:
I also bought new headphones a month or 2 ago. Mine cost less, sound better, squeeze my head less, fit over my ears, and are ACTUALLY studio headphones...that are used in studios. But now that I've commented on that, I suppose I'm "angry", cause your opinion is more important. :rolleyes:
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What did you buy?
 
stewdaviesuk said:
I have had a pair of Beats Solo HD for over 2 years. I went to an Apple store and listened to all the headphones they had on display. They all sounded great to 50+ year old ears.
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Unfortunately, Apple Stores do not have much for headphones. Shoulda tried some other stores, you might have saved money and found better sound.

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AppleScruff1 said:
What did you buy?
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AT 50s, the X or whatever they call the one with detachable cord. (ATH-M50x) Replaced some midrange Sennheisers which I liked, but these are a different world. The 16yo is happy with the Senns.
 
JAT said:
I also bought new headphones a month or 2 ago. Mine cost less, sound better, squeeze my head less, fit over my ears, and are ACTUALLY studio headphones...that are used in studios. But now that I've commented on that, I suppose I'm "angry", cause your opinion is more important. :rolleyes:

BTW, listening to a bass (a bass, it's an instrument) with these ATs is amazing. Actually makes me want to listen to them occasionally instead of my home system. Of course, it isn't over-punched at 80-100Hz.
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I know the Solo2's aren't regarded as studio headphones. I know I mentioned other brands, but to clarify, I'm not saying these Beats are flat by any means. However the bass is definitely not as exaggerated as everyone pointed it out to be on the prior models. As consumer headphones, I personally think these sound pretty great. I agree that they're a bit pricey but I feel the aesthetics are fantastic and a head above most headphones on the market today. I'm a happy camper, and looks like you are too. Congrats on your purchase of whatever headphones you bought because I'm not here to rag on them.
 
iphonehype said:
What will sound quality be like? IMO nothing beats Bose and I find Dr Dres very poor quality comparing to budget headphones, forget comparing them to high end headphones!!
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I have a pair of $300 Bose headphones that I thought were absolutely biblical until I tried on a pair of $30 (yes THIRTY) Sennheiser headphones and was blown away with what I wasn't hearing with the Bose. The Bose were muddy, overly bassy and no where near as sharp or defined. Makes you open your eyes.

I hope that Apple can make the Beats sound better (and look less ridiculous), but then again, I'm not their market for those headphones anyway.
 
Nothing BEATS BOSE? Pun intended, I assume. :p

I don't like these B-brands as they are overpriced and don't sound good IMO. Just try out some Sennheiser, AKG, Audio Technica etc. headphones. I am pretty sure you will find find better cans for a lower price.

iphonehype said:
What will sound quality be like? IMO nothing beats Bose and I find Dr Dres very poor quality comparing to budget headphones, forget comparing them to high end headphones!!
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JAT said:
Unfortunately, Apple Stores do not have much for headphones. Shoulda tried some other stores, you might have saved money and found better sound.
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If only I lived near anywhere that had plenty of headphones to try. I bought the Beats whilst on Holiday in Florida so automatically they are considerably cheaper than buying here in the UK. If i wanted to travel to say London it would cost me the price of the Beats just to get there and if I wanted to stay for more than a few hours I would have to pay for a hotel too.

No doubt I could have done better but had no time back then and it isn't worth the extra travel cost just to try some cheaper headphones.
 
The Beats Solo2 headphones actually sound quite good in the store. Much better than the older ones, so it's a good direction. If they were to re engineer the UR beats or some sort of in-ear for more balanced sound at that same price point, I'd consider buying. I'm sure they're in development as products are refreshed.
 
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