I agree. Cruises and airplanes are some of the few places were you are spared from the noise. Free Wi-Fi would be great though.
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FCC Proposes Permitting In-Flight Voice/Data Cell Phone Use
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I agree. Cruises and airplanes are some of the few places were you are spared from the noise. Free Wi-Fi would be great though.
Oh hell no
I do NOT want to hear about your prostate exam, listen to your baby waby flirting and the rest of it when we are crammed into an enclosed space.
Anything that makes a noise, including peoples mouths, should be banned if it can't be enjoyed via headphones.
Or at least let airlines decide to allow it or not, restrict it to business/first class etc
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There are no headphone or ear plugs that get rid of all noise. Especially when it's right next to you
I do NOT want to hear about your prostate exam, listen to your baby waby flirting and the rest of it when we are crammed into an enclosed space.
Anything that makes a noise, including peoples mouths, should be banned if it can't be enjoyed via headphones.
Or at least let airlines decide to allow it or not, restrict it to business/first class etc
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There are no headphone or ear plugs that get rid of all noise. Especially when it's right next to you
if the response in the the thread is anything to judge by (seems pretty good though.. everyone has phones in here and everyone flies)
...then nobody is going to be talking on their phones on airplanes.
or is it those durn android users who do all the talking? #
...then nobody is going to be talking on their phones on airplanes.
or is it those durn android users who do all the talking? #
"Proposes" not accepted..
Many more could happen down the chain.. And the last word will be the airlines. No one has to accept it it they don't want to.
However, for what its worth, would you rather have someone yelling on their phone, or talking to someone next to you ?
or neither..... just be like 'discipline' in school... once your on the flight, your silent till, you get to where you intend to go.
Actually, this WOULD be better.. Would make plane trips that much more enjoyable.
If i waned to hear people yak-yak-yak, i'd go over to my friends place. I don't need people on a plane for that.
Many more could happen down the chain.. And the last word will be the airlines. No one has to accept it it they don't want to.
However, for what its worth, would you rather have someone yelling on their phone, or talking to someone next to you ?
or neither..... just be like 'discipline' in school... once your on the flight, your silent till, you get to where you intend to go.
Actually, this WOULD be better.. Would make plane trips that much more enjoyable.
If i waned to hear people yak-yak-yak, i'd go over to my friends place. I don't need people on a plane for that.
or neither..... just be like 'discipline' in school... once your on the flight, your silent till, you get to where you intend to go.
Actually, this WOULD be better.. Would make plane trips that much more enjoyable.
be careful what you wish for..
anyway, you can already have all of this luxury & privacy you're speaking of.. it's called a charter flight.. or buy your own airplane.. idk
but demanding 'discipline' and 'silence' while in a public type setting for the sake of your own personal satisfaction is a slippery slope to be walking on.
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Nope I talk on my phone. I'm talking about the people who say "I don't wanna be stuck in a plane with people who have friends and want to talk to them!" or something along those lines. If it annoys you then put on some headphones, it is that simple.
maybe they'd make a new "airplane mode" and make it so no voice calls can be made(so that text and anything else can go through. Wifi would obviously allow for that and other apps would just be made it allow you to talk.
I can tell you if people were allowed to talk, maybe they should have a section of the plane to do so. They do have 1st class & coach, so why not(of course it wouldn't come at no extra cost) have a "business section"(that you can actually do business).
I can tell you if people were allowed to talk, maybe they should have a section of the plane to do so. They do have 1st class & coach, so why not(of course it wouldn't come at no extra cost) have a "business section"(that you can actually do business).
You must be one of those annoying people who talks loud on the phone yet are oblivious to everyone around them.
It's not about being anti social. That's the most ridiculous argument that I've ever heard that a person is anti social because they don't want some inconsiderate person talking on the phone next to them. What does the people they're talking to have to do with getting annoyed by someone yacking away as if they're in a private place?
Judging by your comment, perhaps you're an insecure person who needs others to people looking at you talking on the phone so that others could think you're happening and have things going on. Nobody is going to get impressed, and if by some chance somebody did, they wouldn't recognize you if they saw you walking down the street the next day.
When you're on a public place and someone sits down and starts talking on the phone, it's distracting and annoying TO MOST people. You can rationalize it in whatever way you want, say that that's their problem, but most people are annoyed and that's a fact.
Not quite. Even at 5000 feet it's tough to get a signal. Heck even at 1000 feet. And it was 2001.
And you are okay with federal agencies controlling and enforcing what is "courtesy" ? Because last I checked, we let society "enforce" that one, and leave the feds to deal with more important and binary things. If we are at the point where two people can't have a conversation to settle matters of discomfort, and require the federal government to step in, then we are lost.
I suppose you are for the feds enforcing opening doors for others, chewing with your mouth closed, and saying "excuse me" when trying to make your way through a crowd? Because I don't see a leap between that and when and where one is allowed to have a conversation with another person.
Note that I don't promote people talking on the phone on a plane. But my goodness I have been on a plane where I could hear more than a couple rows away, and I'm a big enough person to ask them to keep it down if they are being too loud, and that goes for conversations regardless of the location of the other party.
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5000 feet isn't even a mile. I get cell reception from towers over a mile away all the time. Someone probably had lead balls in their carry on and it was stored directly below you.
Voice calls on the airline
Can you imagine 200 folks yelling into to their phones, "can you hear me?", "dropped call" etc???
Can you imagine 200 folks yelling into to their phones, "can you hear me?", "dropped call" etc???
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Fed's, who need's the FBI?
You just place a sign, or continue to tell passengers that they cannot use the phone like they have done for countless years...
I just do not want to hear everybody's phone conversation on a plane. It is bad enough listening to the usual drivel that certain people feel the need to spout in public, when they do not have a receptive audience.
The situation will be much much worse, when they have hours to scan their contacts list for a receptive audience.
When the FCC is talking about allowing cell phone usage above 10,000 feet, they don't mean to cell towers below. They mean to a low power microcell on each plane, which would relay the voice to special towers over a dedicated aircraft antenna. A passenger's phone would only have to transmit a few dozen feet.
Cell towers transmit mostly horizontally. Reliable vertical reception falls off pretty quickly above about 2,000 feet. Worse, the signal varies in lobes, so even if you were low enough to get a signal, you'd quickly pass in and out of non-signal areas as well.
For example, if an aircraft (red below) was at 8,000 feet, it'd be passing through areas of 1-3 bars and no signal at all (white areas), in quick succession.
Interestingly, at a relative speed between you and the tower above 150 knots, there can also be enough Doppler shift to throw the radio frequency out of spec.
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Clearly you don't know me. Plus, I don't need to travel a lot to think that it's the federal governments job to enforce common courtesy using a blanket law. Grow up.
Let me reiterate something I wrote in a different post.
"I suppose you are for the feds enforcing opening doors for others, chewing with your mouth closed, and saying "excuse me" when trying to make your way through a crowd? Because I don't see a leap between that and when and where one is allowed to have a conversation with another person."
That, sir, is the most informative and well written forum post I've encountered in weeks. One thousand internet points for you!
flew today..
right before we landed, a lady sitting next to me called someone and asked how far away they were..
i was so annoyed #
right before we landed, a lady sitting next to me called someone and asked how far away they were..
i was so annoyed #
For those interested, the FCC is going to hold open hearings on this topic today, starting at 2:30pm EST (GMT -5):
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way...calls-on-flights-fcc-holds-open-meeting-today
It will be interesting to hear the arguments for this, as it may affect everyone on their next flights.
BL.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way...calls-on-flights-fcc-holds-open-meeting-today
It will be interesting to hear the arguments for this, as it may affect everyone on their next flights.
BL.