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Wow, i mean really wow. You are partially correct, he is certainly no where near the center THATS for sure. But you are delusional if you say he is right wing. I mean HE even prides himself as a lefty. Not sure you can get any more left wing than him. I believe you need to do further research or find new sources. Just sayin.

Okay. On the American political spectrum he is moderately right-wing.

To the rest of the world, he is as ultra right-wing as everybody else within the U.S. Government.
 
Currently internet service is not taxed...

Well, until this afternoon. Because everyone knows it costs money to regulate and oversee something and that requires taxes taxes and more taxes.

"We win"?
 
I bet 99.9% of the U.S. population has zero idea of what this FCC ruing really means or how it will affect them personally. That includes me.

Exactly, same here. I'm glad I'm not the only one who isn't pretending like I can pick a side on this.
 
Okay. On the American political spectrum he is moderately right-wing.

To the rest of the world, he is as ultra right-wing as everybody else within the U.S. Government.

He's right-wing by the standards of the UK, Europe, and Canada. I don't know how you can make the claim about the rest of the world. I don't think right vs left wing even applies in some countries.
 
You watch one episode, get bored, and decide to start browsing MacRumors. Comcast has no stake in MR and makes no money off of it. Without Net Neutrality, they could slow down access to MR to the point where you're like "Damn, this site is completely unusable. I guess it's back to watching Parks and Rec" - unless you pay more for unrestricted access to sites. Or if MacRumors paid a ransom to Comcast to unrestrict their site for all Comcast customers.

Except that they haven't done that. The industry has followed a voluntary code that has worked for 20 years. There are better ways of dealing with potential abuses than trying to apply a century-old law written to regulate railroads to a relatively new technology. The concern is that, like the railroads, a regulated Internet will stagnate.

That and the fact that browsing MacRumors would not be using 80% of the carriers bandwidth. The point was for the Netflix's and Amazons who stream huge content taxing the carriers network were to pay more. Not the consumer who has a 30mb connection and is browsing MacRumors. Now certainly if Netflix has to pay more then they would most likely pass those costs on to THEIR customers but the folks who dont use Netflix (in this example) would not be effected. This new deal could quite possibly lead the ISP's to say, well we cant charge Netflix and Amazon for killing our network so to build more infrastructure to support that bandwidth we will just raise the cost to everyone!
 
Newsflash, Barack Obama is the worst President in U.S. history, has singlehandedly done more damage than good, and the country may take anywhere from 10-25 years to recover from his 8 years of corruption, if it can at all. At a point in history when so many things in this world are at crucial turning points, we have possibly gone into the dark ages of American Communism.



News flash Conservative act like a bunch of crazy apes at a zoo and the guy who runs FCC is a Conservative dingo. Say hi to Bush for me his act of terrorism send America back 100 years while working with those Commie Chinese.
 
That and the fact that browsing MacRumors would not be using 80% of the carriers bandwidth. The point was for the Netflix's and Amazons who stream huge content taxing the carriers network were to pay more. Not the consumer who has a 30mb connection and is browsing MacRumors. Now certainly if Netflix has to pay more then they would most likely pass those costs on to THEIR customers but the folks who dont use Netflix (in this example) would not be effected. This new deal could quite possibly lead the ISP's to say, well we cant charge Netflix and Amazon for killing our network so to build more infrastructure to support that bandwidth we will just raise the cost to everyone!

The fact is, Netflix had long since set up quite a few deals with Tier 1 providers that would've eased the congestion on Comcast and Co.'s networks. All they had to was, quite literally, plug into the router.

The problem was, Comcast and Co. didn't want to do that. They ignored it entirely, complained Netflix was eating their bandwidth, then turned around and demanded they pay for priority access.

That's what the core issue of all this was. It wasn't that Netflix wanted a free ride. They had spent millions already providing enough bandwidth to the ISPs to keep them from bogging down. It was that the ISPs trumped the whole situation up into a Poor Little Us scenario to get more money.
 
Would Netflix finally add more Anime and Horror to streaming after Net Neutrality passes or bunch of pointless Documentaries or would they burn down their DVD department and put everything to stream. I guessed this depends with Dingo from FCC and Conservatives.
 
This is insane. They can't keep themselves from regulating anything...

Actually, this is one area that needs regulating. We need to stop cable companies from throttling Netflix and similar services that compete with their other services. And, yes that has been happening.
 
What does the content Netflix decides to host have to do with the topic on hand?

Everything or else Netflix would be busy worrying what to add to streaming but instead they are too worried paying off Comcast so their customers stop whining. How about just make Comcast customers pay more or tell them to find another isp.
 
You keep writing words but I really don't understand what point you are trying to make. If you're streaming iTunes in the middle of the ocean then perhaps you're connected via satellite? I really do not understand why you wrote that.

What is hard to understand what I wrote? How is explaining the situation being obtuse?

Yes, I am connected via satellite. As can you be connected via satellite if Comcast is your only land based ISP in the area (which we know it isn't as almost every market has DSL).

Your rant discussed how the internet is made up of under ground ducts and telephone poles. That is inaccurate in terms of viable tier-3 (consumer ISP) network providers.

Like I said, you are willfully ignoring viable alternative options to attempt to make your point.
 
Put it this way: Comcast owns NBC Universal and its programming. So when you're streaming Parks and Recreation reruns on Hulu, complete with advertising, they're making money from you. They're not going to do anything to hinder your Hulu streaming experience.

You watch one episode, get bored, and decide to start browsing MacRumors. Comcast has no stake in MR and makes no money off of it. Without Net Neutrality, they could slow down access to MR to the point where you're like "Damn, this site is completely unusable. I guess it's back to watching Parks and Rec" - unless you pay more for unrestricted access to sites. Or if MacRumors paid a ransom to Comcast to unrestrict their site for all Comcast customers.

No NN would almost allow them to set up speed tiers for different sites: You would get 50 MBPS for Hulu and anything else that makes Comcast money. 25 MBPS for Netflix because Netflix paid a ransom to Comcast. 10 MBPS for Twitter because Twitter also paid a ransom (but not as big as what Netflix paid). 5 MBPS for almost everything else. 3 MBPS for Amazon because Amazon told Comcast to take their ransom request and shove it up their arse, which angered Comcast, 1 MBPS for Skype because it competes with Comcast's landline services, and dial up speeds for AT&T and Verizon's site because they don't want you checking out the competition's pricing.

Thank you for your explanation. Some of the bozos have clearly been watching too much American cable news media if they think net neutrality is bad for the consumer. There's really no reason to be against it unless you're an executive for one of the ISPs or own stock in them.

This isn't a case of where "competiton" can take care of the market because in the case of most cities, you can either get internet through the one company that provides it or not have it at all. It's a bunch of regional monopolies. The ones crying let the free market handle this situation are like suggesting to let the free market handle itself when it comes to electricity. It's asanine.

Despite what the talking heads tell you, not all government regulation is bad guys. You would be surprised how miserable your life would be without much of the regulation we take for granted.
 
Actually, this is one area that needs regulating. We need to stop cable companies from throttling Netflix and similar services that compete with their other services. And, yes that has been happening.

Except that never happened.

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This Net Neutrality will just lead to Internet Death Panels.:rolleyes:

If I like my plan I can keep my plan. If I like my doctor I can keep my doctor. Oh wait..........that was a lie in almost every case.
 
Like I said, you are willfully ignoring viable alternative options to attempt to make your point.

Having true alternatives hinges on the fact that the local competitors are able to offer equal quality service. This is only true for a scant few cities in the US.

DSL isn't a true competitor to cable or fiber unless it can offer the same upload and download speeds. In most areas, DSL is usually only a quarter as fast for almost the exact same price. That's not competition.
 

No, the government cannot regulate content on the internet?

Like it doesn't on radio or television.

Remember, the progressive (like Obama) would like nothing more (and have tried) to bring back the 'fairness doctrine' which is the definition of regulation of free speech.

You must be crack-baby high to think that content regulations and additional taxes are not on their way. After all, that is what progressives do.
 
DSL isn't a true competitor to cable or fiber unless it can offer the same upload and download speeds. In most areas, DSL is usually only a quarter as fast for almost the exact same price. That's not competition.

That is the definition of competition and consumer choice. The consumer looks at competing products as a set price and weights the options to which product presents them the best value proposition.
 
I hate Comcast, AT&T, TWC, etc.. they are all out there for money. The Internet should remain how its always been. Companies are using this as an excuse to hinder growth.

For those of you who are complaining about being monopolized, talk to your local government and ask them to bring in more competition. My city has a dozen or so of ISP's available from TWC, Comcast, Surewest, Google, AT&T, Satellite internet, etc.. The people spoke and got what they want!

The internet has never had this type of government regulation and since its inception companies have paid to move content across it.

Fairly laughable that people have been brainwashed to think they are rescuing something that never existed. Then again what else should i expect from the millennial generation.

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Actually, yeah it did. And there's proof of it. People have monitored the bandwidth Netflix consumed across Comcasts network. You can practically see the point when they decided to flip the switch.

I don't think you understand the difference between tier-1, tier-2, and tier-3 networks. Sigh.
 
No, the government cannot regulate content on the internet?

Like it doesn't on radio or television.

Remember, the progressive (like Obama) would like nothing more (and have tried) to bring back the 'fairness doctrine' which is the definition of regulation of free speech.

You must be crack-baby high to think that content regulations and additional taxes are not on their way. After all, that is what progressives do.
That's funny, usually the people talking about the crazy conspiracy theories are the ones smoking the crack. :D
 
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